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Honda Insight Prices Paid and Buying Experience
The Honda Insight won the edmunds.com Most
Significant Vehicle Award.
"The nominations: Honda S2000, Honda Insight and
the Jaguar S-type. The votes were counted. The
envelope was torn open (read: another email) the
landslide winner is Honda's Insight."
What are your thoughts on this car of the future,
now?
carlady/host
Significant Vehicle Award.
"The nominations: Honda S2000, Honda Insight and
the Jaguar S-type. The votes were counted. The
envelope was torn open (read: another email) the
landslide winner is Honda's Insight."
What are your thoughts on this car of the future,
now?
carlady/host
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Anyone who has looked at fuel prices lately has to
appreciate the long term value of a car that gets 70MPG.
Let's face it - we need this kind of new technology, lets not lament over yesterdays CRX.
Don't you REX fans get all upset...maybe this
baby will transform into the REX of tomorrow!
rumors site), it's about an owner's experiences
with it.. take a looksee.. (I'm not the author)
http://www.insightman.com/
carlady/host
just my 2 cents
carlady/host
Hype or not, but none other has matched the Insight yet. This is not a mainstream car, atleast not intended to be, but somebody has to start somewhere, beyond showcasing impractical concepts, and keep advancing on the practical design for a better technology in a few years. In fact, "Insight-Technology" based Civic is supposed to be coming out this year!
on mountain roads every day for years so how much of a problem could it be. Civic doesn't do any better than 10 seconds. It's terrible but it's not going 700 miles on a tank.
Honda became famous because its CVCC engine was the first to meet the federal emissions standard
in the early 70's. This was a true achievement
since apparently the law existed and every American car maker just said "no."
I remember the 1973 energy crisis and gas lines and rationing. It's difficult to believe the US
in on the verge of such a crisis again and people are on CNBC and CNN saying things like, "I guess I'll use a stroller and wheel my child around instead of putting him in my SUV and driving around my neighboorhood to get him to go to sleep every time."
being sold in a 2000 Civic.
Thanks for the posts and links. An "Insight-based" Civic sedan is something I'd like to see.
By increasing the horsepower you'd eat more fuel and battery power.
Unfortunately, the cars of the future will probably be bubble, roach-shaped cars for the sake of aerodynamics.
If these 3 things are changed, the fuel economy will change too. Until this all gets perfected, we can only change the color. There are other cars available. Look up www.solectria.com. They have a few vehicles available and also have many links to other alternative fuel vehicles. Even if one's not interested, it makes for entertaining web surfing.
The Insight is more fun to drive than the Civic and Accord. I would view the Insight as another great Honda.
the June issue of Motor Trend (page 110) or surf
for it (http://motortrend.com) this is something
coming from car guys. I could have had a Insight ! I don't know if hybrids fuel cells or whatever will be it but most of us know 15 MPG SUVs (silly
urban vehicles) don't make much sense.
Rob Fruth - Houston, Tx
http://freeweb.pdq.net/rfruth
Any other lurking Insight owners in the Hall?
carlady/host
So far meets all my expectations and then some. Perfect as a second car.
Paid 20,495 for mine including a.c. Dealer was very helpful.
Link in www.vtec.net/news
So I was just wondering, what were the going prices around the country. Start with what the dealer had on the car, and what you finally got it for after the hell of wheeling, dealing and dickering. If anyone got the vehicle at invoice or close to invoice I would reallly like to know.
BTW on a side note for a few years I drove Nissan Sentra, back when it was the boxy-basic type of vehicle. And in southern California stop and go traffic, I still managed 50 miles a gallon (with the AC on). Having Insight owners getting real-life mpg of 50 or so makes me wonder if this auto has all this new energy saver technology in it, why isn't the real-world mileage at least better than that?
Now don't get me wrong, I would still like one, but for a hybrid the vehicle seems to fall a little short. All I can say is that for a 'new' type of vehicle at least the base invoice isn't outrageous.
Anyway, just wanted some input on my questions.
Thanks all.
Mike (from Las Vegas)
I think the 60-70 (assuming anybody actually gets that) is and increadible achievement.
very disappointed at how little the dealers (around Boston) know about the Insight and how poorly they are trying to sell them (they aren't).
After several attempts at different dealerships throughout New England, either they don't have any, or they aren't in running condition, or they aren't on their main lot, or.....
My latest experience, was with Lundgreen Honda in Auburn, MA.. These loosers had the Insight WAY
in the back of their lot. Not only was the car deader than a door nail (dead 12V ICE battery), but they wouldn't even jump start it for me, and even better, they wouldn't even take an order
from me..
What's up with this? How on earth does Honda ever expect for this car to catch on, with such INCOMPETENT dealers?
Does anyone have any recommendation of COMPETENT
Honda dealers in central MA or southern NH area? Do they even exist?
Although the Prius isn't out quite yet, the few Toyota dealers I inquited at, seemed a lot more
competent.
-Beanboy
Just about two weeks ago, we California dealers were elated to hear some great news for us. Honda Motor Sales announced that they would be increasing the allocation of Insights to California dealers on account of the fact that Northeastern dealers refused an increase in their allocation.
Sadly for you, Insights will eventually become more dificult to find in your neck of the woods, but easier to find here in California. Of course, with so many sales calls and shoppers stopping by each dealership in this region, we could easily sell double the number we get now for MSRP or more as soon as or before they arrive at the lots.
Then again, the average roundtrip for commutes in this marketplace is much, mcuh longer here than in the Boston area.
As for the lack of knowledgeable sales associates at Honda dealers, Honda does seem to be partly to blame for this. I had plenty of experience with Toyota prior to selling Hondas, and dealers were getting information about the Prius as much as two years ago. Meanwhile, Honda kept the car a virtual enigma until the very moment they began to arrive at the first lucky dealerships. Production and delivery are happening at a glacial pace, and many smaller or mid-size dealers have not yet even recieved their second Insight.
Many salespeople actually feel that their likelihood of selling an Insight is so small that it is negligible ... therefore, they feel rather ambivalent about the car itself. My colleagues don't feel this way, but we do get frustrated when there are so many customers coming in to ask for them, yet there is nothing to show.
These are not excuses for bad salesmanship in regards to the Insight, but it may help explain why Badnuls has found little help in the quest for an Insight.
Similarly, Honda has not even given sales staff any clue about the all-new 2001 Civic. It's just weeks away, but other than spy photos I found in a British journal, I have little info about what bodes to be my bread and butter in just a few weeks. I understand the rationale ... Honda wnats us to remain focused on selling the remaining 2000s.
If you want to know more about the car and you live in the northeast, perhaps you can ask your local dealers if you can have a chance to view the Sales Training videotape. We have allowed that a few times here ... usually whenever all of us are busily helping customers buy cars actually available at the dealership. If no one obliges, insightman.com is a great resource.
Summary, there is a tax credit for electic cars - some dealer mentioned a deduction - still being hashed out.
carlady/host
Unloaded a beautiful Audi A4 to "do the right thing for the planet." Now, except for the skitteriness of the skinny tires, I love the Insight. Boy do I get looks. Not like the far too common A4. Am leasing for 2 years. Looking forward to a fuel cell or perhaps even a pure, increased range, plug-in EV.
the worst part is that they also had a souped up Si for $17000 lol
the worst part is that they also had a souped up Si for $17000 lol
thank you for your responses
Another reason the dealers won't come down on price: Honda is selling the Insights at a loss as it is.