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Have you taken it into a dealership or is your car way past the warranty?
http://pressroom.toyota.com/photo_library/display_release.html?id- =20040716
This saddens me deeply, and gives me yet another reason to dislike Scion...
I think part of the problem is that the least decade or so of Celicas have been overpriced relative to the rest of the market, which is another way of saying that fiercer and fiercer competition has just driven the Celica out, I guess.
And yet this has not happened to another of Toyota's really long-lived models, the Corolla, which continue to hit new sales highs generation after generation. The press release from Toyota implies that sport coupes have become too fickle a segment to be able to make long-lasting success in, so I guess maybe the short-term, frequent-change theme at Scion will suit them better in this segment.
Having said that, I will add that the tC is a true porker, and to call it a worthy replacement for Celica is to miss the true nature of Celica.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Long live Toyota - the king of "from A to B"
Kind of sad that mr2 is going away too.
http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/040720-3.htm
So maybe one day, it will come back to the States...
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
My 95 nissan w 180,000 miles never had an oil problem and I neglected that car till I traded it. What Gives toyota??
Camry 4 cyl. Produced 8/96 - 7/01
Camry 6 cyl. Produced 8/96 - 7/01
Solara 4 cyl. Produced 6/98 - 5/01
Solara 6 cyl. Produced 6/98 - 5/01
Sienna 6 cyl. Produced 7/97 - 5/01
Avalon 6 cyl. Produced 7/96 - 5/01
Celica 4 cyl. Produced 8/96 - 4/99
Highlander 6 cyl. Produced 11/00 - 7/01
You can try the NHTSA website for verification.
Please don't tell us you are "neglecting" your new car, and that this is your first oil change at
11,000 miles!
2. Take anything Jiffy Lube tells you with a grain of salt. Maybe even a POUND of salt. The level of technical expertise at their stores varies a lot (mostly from 'some' to 'none') and many of their "recommendations" are designed to produce extra business for themselves that is a needless expense for the consumer. They have been investigated by the state AG here in California for exactly this reason.
3. Oil gelling can occur in any engine if the oil changes are not frequent enough. I am with guitarzan in asking: this isn't your first oil change, I hope? If you do not drive very much, follow a time schedule for oil changes, rather than a mileage schedule.
4. If you are truly worried about this, DEFINITELY get a second opinion from a real shop or a Toyota dealer - no gas stations or quickie lube places.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Just a thought.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Also did the bucking problem go away with this fix? And lastly, are you sure that the plugs you are using are the proper heat range for your car?
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
The bucking problem disappeared with new plugs, except at about 45-50 mph where it has always bucked. This bucking AT 50 MPH did not disappear with the new distributor either.
I have only had the Toyota Techs work on the car so I assume that the plugs are the correct heat range. Any ideas? Thanks.
As for the plug electrode constantly cracking - that is weird - I am as stumped as the Toyota techs.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
The prior owner was concerned about the convertible top cover. This cover goes over the convertible top when it is in the down position. This cover blow off while he was traveling at freeway speeds. Of course this concerns me a great deal.
The cover is held in place by a Velcro strip along the back of the rear seat. It also has one snap on each side of the cover. The snaps seem to be a rather poor way to hold the cover on. If the wind gets under the cover, these snaps would release without much upward motion.
Has anyone had a similar problem? Were you able to correct it? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Well, it is also a case of those other brands stretching DOWNWARD in price these last few years, offering lower base models.
The Z is a really sweet sport coupe but I wouldn't own one because of all the issues with alignment and tire wear that still don't seem to be fixed, even if they are now covered by Nissan as of '04. Also because the cockpit is way too claustrophobic and outward visibility is severely limited even by sport coupe standards.
Now, I would consider an RX-8, in which there seem to be no outstanding issues except the expected fuel economy/oil consumption associated with the rotary engine. Problem is, this car costs almost as much as a Z and is already outclassed in straight-line acceleration by sedans costing less. I generally like sporty cars that emphasize great handling over pure power, but I do like them to be a little faster than family sedans in their price range, at least for the first couple of years.
Out of "looks/handling/steering/braking/mpg/reliability" I will take the RSX over the Celica for looks, mpg, and reliability, to which I would add interior ergonomics and materials, ride, and manual shifter. But the Celica has the handling/steering/braking down perfect, that is for sure, and is the one aspect of the current Celica that is truly a bargain at the price.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I agree that the tt of the last RX-7 was much more effective in getting that car off the line, but they made it too expensive and fuel economy was abysmal. At least now the new car is within about 10% of its competitors like the Z on mpg, and totally comparable in price.
My only RX-7 ever was an '88 (non-turbo) and that car was a blast, but you certainly had to keep the engine spooling up as if it WERE a turbo to keep the power on. Below about 3000 rpm it had less power (seat of the pants feel) than the same vintage Celicas (I have had a few of those over the years) and was A LOT more expensive.
Current RX-8 has less peak torque (at a higher rpm) than a 4-cylinder Camry, with about as much weight. I have not driven one, but that fact alone does not encourage me to do so!
The inside of the new Celica (mine was an '02 GT) is perhaps the biggest disappointment of the whole car. So what did they do? They built the "Lexus of coupes", the Scion tC, called it the replacement for the Celica and dropped Celica in the U.S. The Scion is just shy of 3000 pounds. DON'T THINK SO! Indeed 160 hp in a car this heavy is going to be outclassed in a very short time by economy compacts - call it two years or so. The weight makes the handling plowy, so then where is the "sport" in this car?
The Scion tC is a very nice car in its own right, just no replacement for Celica.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
As to the question of power characteristics, it is true that the GT has more torque up to about 4000 rpm (making it better for around-town driving) but it peaks around 4200 if memory serves, and from there seat-of-the-pants power begins to drop off, whereas the GTS just continues to pull, with the surge in power coming at 6200.
This model is down to like 15K sales a year or less. If you are going to buy one at the end of the production run next year, I am sure you could get a really good deal on it even if you want a GTS. $22K or less is what I would pay at that point. But again, it will probably be impossible to buy one with cloth, and I think the auto is gone. That will also be the start of the third year for the Z, and I am sure you could get the base model then for $25K or so.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Those guys work hard at "upselling," and I've learned not to trust them.
Get a second opinion. One that is worth its salt.
The Elise with the sweet Celica GTS engine (boosted ten hp) is under 2000 pounds. NOW you're talking! :-)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I'm looking at ASA JS6 wheels at Tirerack. I don't want to change the characteristics of the car, but don't know much about wheels. I think the 40mm offset is similar to stock, any one know? I plan to have them mount and balance with Blizzak tires and drop them at my door. Your opinions and expertise are appreciated.
Where, oh WHERE can I get wipers cheaper for my GTS?
TX, John
i've got a quick question? i'm looking into buying a '91 GT-S w/auto trans and roughly 194k. recently when i went to look @ the car, upon start up it ran kinda rough. i'm not sure if it would need a tune up or new engine. no smoke from the rear, so i'm assuming the engine is fine, just needing some work. the car is a Goodwill donation that they are selling for like 1200.xx. having never owned a toyota product (only nissan and honda) i'm not sure of what to look for on a celica w/this amt of miles. any help/information would be greatly appreciated!!
thanks,
-cor
There are 2 tires in 16", but this car is downright dangerous in winter, so I got what I thought would be the best tire, which only came in 15". Got a cheap torque wrench, and they said to maintain the OEM torque spec, since it is determined for stretching the shafts, and nothing to do with wheel type. They mount and balance this set, so I'll just bolt them on myself.
Although these tires wear quick, I should have done this previously. All the summer tires I've had on this car just slide across a snowy road. Ugh!
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I haven't driven a new tC, but I have seen several. Rear seat room looks nice, but at a cost to the hatchback area. I have heard that the blind spot is awful (but so is my car).
It's amazing that Toyota is going to kill the Celica, but you can have a Corolla XRS with the same engine. Remember the Geo Prism GSI sharing the same engine with the Corolla GT-S and MR-2?
I still think that Toyota is making a serious mistake killing off the Celica. This goes for the name and the image. After 2005, just think there is always a 2 door Echo in the Toyota lineup (unless the Scion xA takes over its market share). It looks like the Solara will win the new 2-door sales race (among Toyota).
The Echo is going to be dead just as soon as Toyota can manage it. It never sold well, completely missed its intended target audience, and faced way too much competition in the subcompact segment that was all better-equipped at lower prices.
When Celica was first introduced decades ago, it was a bare bones coupe with decently sporty handling and engine for a low price. It was in a class of one. Nowadays, everybody and their mother makes their inexpensive cars well-appointed, and the sport coupe segment is well developed with many worthy entrants. And Toyota has developed into a highly regarded carmaker that can routinely charge a 10% premium on its car's stickers.
So, you have Celica trying to compete today with a 10% higher sticker in a flooded segment with well-appointed cars. I mean, almost $18K base price with wind-down windows? I happen to like wind-down windows but I know I am in a tiny minority on that one!
What is sad to me, since I happen to think Celica is a great nameplate, is that Toyota could pop out a tC, which is super-well appointed with a high-moderate power rating for its segment, for $16,5, but couldn't revise the Celica to be more competitive. What they should have done is increase power by 15-20% in the Celica, and load it up with features considered standard nowadays to carmakers like Hyundai and Ford (!!), and then keep the price the same.
But I am sure they felt they needed a sport coupe for the Scion brand, and probably didn't want to (a) call the next Celica a Scion; it has always been a Toyota, and (b) didn't want to have two models competing directly for what is a small market niche.
Interestingly, they may face this same dilemma when it comes time to revise the Matrix. Will they call the 2nd gen a Scion? That is what it should have been, but it predated the Scion debut by a year. Will they cancel the Matrix entirely and give Scion a new sport crossover? Or will they continue the Matrix as a Toyota?
Too bad marketing decisions limit our choices for great small sporty cars.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Anybody dump their Celica and regret it?
But they are having a really hard time sellling GTOs, so maybe you can get one for a steal.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Problem is my GTS will probably get $10K-12K on trade. I am having a hard time doing it - even if it was straight up price wise I would still having second thoughts. My 2000 is mint and looks new.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Problem is my GTS will probably get $10K-12K on trade. I am having a hard time doing it - even if it was straight up price wise I would still having second thoughts. My 2000 is mint and looks new.
thanks
-mike