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Drive Safe,
Joe
Also considering a 9-5. Did you buy or lease? Looking to buy.
What was your price? I live in Fairfield county and would try the dealer in Greenwich. Did you try any dealers in Westchester???
thx.
Thanks.
Paul
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I was wondering where to get a small spray can of touch up paint for my 2000 Imola Red wagon. Duplicolor and Plasticote can't help.
Drive Safe,
Joe
I have linked this discussion into that folder, but it will always reside here in Station Wagons.
Looking forward to meeting everyone!
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Jim
It still won't touch my Aero wagon, of course...
Sounds like a good buy--if I had a base, I'd get the upgrade for sure.
Another disturbing point was when I encountered a 99 Saab 9-5 2.3T sedan on a non-Saab dealer's lot for $24,500 Canadian dollars. This vehicle had 52,500 Kilometers (30K miles ) and was in excellent condition. This seems to confirm the rapid depreciation that the Saabs MAY have. Thank you in advance for confirming this detail with me.
Brentwood Bill has expressed his opinion regarding Saabs and the rapid depreciation on them.
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ed
Drive Safe,
Joe
We seem to have a problem with our parked 2000 9-5 Wagon rolling - ignition off, tranny in reverse, and the parking brake applied at 75%. (My wife's not strong enough to pull the brake the last few clicks) Our driveway has a slight incline. A few weeks ago we found our wagon about 50' behind where it was parked the night before. Took it to the dealer. First time they realigned the gear shift - That may be bunk because I don't know how that could be done. Whatever they did, it did not fix it. When we brought it back the second time, they said we need to pull the parking brake to the last click - a problem for my wife - and it's her car. Has anyone had a similar experience? How was it resolved? Any input is appreciated.
Jim
Chester, CT, USA -
BTW, I seen a 99 9.5 manual, with leather and s/r about 6 months ago at Saab dealer, only 500 km in dealer inventory - asking $33,000 cdn. Seen a 2001 with auto, leather and s/r with 16,000 km at Saab dealer for $36,000. However, was a rental car and had serious stone chips indicating hard miles to me. Finally, a 99 9.5 at a second Saab dealer for $29,000, I think it had about 60,000 km. All were sedans. The residual on mine after 3 yrs is $21,000 (ouch) compared with a similarly priced Lexus at $26,500.
Steve
tranny. On both my previous 900 and this one, setting the parking brake is very difficult and my wife really has a hard time of it.
I tried to have the 900 adjusted, but it never worked to her satisfaction. I haven't done anything with the Aero yet. I suspect they just aren't all that well designed, but I don't know that for certain.
"How was it resolved?" I finally talked my wife into using both hands to pull the parking brake up--that seems to work.
This is about my only complaint with the car, though--I just love this vehicle.
When you leave the car in reverse it is not like park in an automatic. The car must turn the engine over to move. This is difficult, but still possible. (With an automatic it is impossible) It must one heck of a hill to get the car to move while it is in gear. I would do a couple of things.
See if the car moves in gear. Turn the car off in reverse and don't set the brake. See if it moves. (Stay in the car) If this is the case the hill is steep enough to overcome the compression of the engine. You need the parking brake to stop the car on this hill. If the car does not move then the engine is strong enough to hold the car.
Second, make sure the car stays in gear when it is off. Stop the car and remove the key. See if you can get the car to pop out of reverse. The key should lock the shift into reverse. If you can get it out of reverse go to the dealer! There should be no way you should be able to get the car out of reverse with out the key. This needs to be fixed.
Third, put the car on the hill and park it with the brake. Push the cluthc in and see if it rolls. You should be able to see how hard the brake has to be pulled to hold the car. If it takes excessive force have the brake adjusted.
It may be a good idea to get in the habit of pushing the clutch in when you park the car to test if the parking brake is applied hard enough for the hill.
Drive Safe,
Joe
I tried your suggestions. Looks like I have a heck of a hill.
The gear does not pop out of reverse without a key.
The car does roll when parked, tranny in reverse, parking brake off. The vehicle weight is sufficient to overcome engine compression.
There are 8 clicks of the parking brake from zero to full application. 7 Clicks are needed to plant the car firmly with the clutch applied. I guess I need to follow rworrell's suggestion and tell my wife to use both hands to set the brake.
Jim
7/8 application sounds about right from my experience--sorry!
I would see about adjusting the parking brake a bit. If more slack is taken out the brake will be set when the handle is lower, say 5-6 clicks. Your wife will have better leverage on the handle at this point. I think it is worth a try.
Drive Safe,
Joe
JWAJack
I'll have the parking cable tightened so it can be applied with less pull.
Thanks again to rworrell, bmwjoe & JWAJack. This is the kind of stuff that makes Edmunds Bulletin Boards great.
Jim
Chester, CT, USA
Fly safe!
Rick
I believe the 2001 is almost the same as the 2000. There is 15 more HP under the hood and Onstar is standard.
Drive Safe,
Joe
Good luck (p.s. get an Aero!).
Also, What is the money factor/interest rate on a 9-5 wagon from Saab financial or GMAC?
SAAB is offering the GMAC financing of 0% for 3 years. However, this is valid till 10/31. I'm planning on the 2001 Aero Wagon. If I can't get a good deal, I'll try to get a good price on a 2k Aero wagon.
Do most of you lease or buy? Am not sure. Based on the depreciation that I've seen, am wondering if it's really worth it.
Thanks,
Maneesh
Your lease/buy decision should be based on how long you plan to keep it. If you want a new car every 3-4 years, leasing is the only way to go. If you like to hold a car for 10 years or so, buy it.
If you're going to hang on to the car, a discounted 2k Aero will be the better value.
I started leaning towards a wagon, and particularly the Passat, esp. since the new body style came out. However, my neighbor across the street came home with a 2000 9-5 SE wagon, and I think I might have changed my mind. He paid about 29.5k for a car with 8000 miles on it, and the out the door price I was looking at for Passat GLX's have been in that range.
So...I started searching Autotrader.com, cars.com, etc, and also reading up on the 9-5. My questions are these:
1) What is reasonable price range for low mileage (less than 20K miles) 9-5 wagons, either SE or base (or Aero, for that matter). In online ads, most cars seem to be between 33 (SE with less than 10K miles) to 25 (base with 30K miles)
2) What differences are there in the various trim levels that a) Cannot be made up by "loading up" a base model, or b) Are really worthwhile, c) For those who looked carefully at the SE vs. base, is it worth the extra dough, esp the engine
3) Anybody carefully compare Passat GLX with 9-5?
Answers to these questions or any other input appreciated...lease ends in a month, need to move quickly.
I can't comment on your price question as prices are different in Canada - my sedan was just under $30k US new (base with leather, sunroof). Comparing the SE with the base, the SE gives a 6cyl but I think the 4cyl base turbo is more than adequate. The Saab purists (see Saabnet.com) prefer the 4 cyl. No manual option on the SE. Adds an automatic rear mirror dimmer, dual switch rear seat heaters (base has single switch), 5 spoke alloys vs 10 spoke (same size), leather inserts on door panels, memory on the power seats, maybe some other odds and ends but I think thats about it. Leather is standard as is sunroof.
In Canada this adds about $6000 US to what I paid for my car. I think a base with the leather/sun roof options added is better value. If I was going to go with the SE, I would probably spend the few thousand more and get the Aero.
Steve
Drive Safe,
Joe
Thanks
Sorry to hear you are having a hard time with your 9-5. Mine is a 200 model year and we ahve had no problems. We love the car and plan to keep it for a long time.
Drive Safe,
Joe
We have now fashioned a clunky wooden board barrier that sits between the passenger seat and the console, that will hopefully prevent this happening again, but doesn't this strike anyone as completely insane? We asked the dealer to help and only got the canned spiel about the key in the steering column being unsafe in crashes blah, blah. But even with the key in the center console there are so many things they could do -- add an interlock so that the ignition simply cannot cut out while the car is in motion. Or allow the ignition to come back on without requiring the car to go back into "park".
Anyone experienced this? Any ideas on how to fix this deathtrap?
Any word about Saab offering AWD in any upcoming models? I like the car overall, but I kinda promised myself that the next car I buy would have this feature. (The ESP feature is a good step forward in the 2002 models, but it's not quite the same.)
I just completed a 700 mile round trip to the sister-in-law's complete with the wife, 2 kids and father-in-law and labrador. Everyone fit and had a comfortable ride. We did have a roof rack for our stuff. Still, I got 27.5 mpg.
This car is the road king!
Drive Safe,
Joe
Good luck!
Drive Safe,
Joe
Is this reasonable? I'm having a heck of a time finding one that fits the bill, and have got a lease ending mid December. Also, this car is about 200 miles away, so I am going to either have to ride the train up or buy it sight unseeno-neither option appeals to me much.
jb
Went to tell the Saab dealer, where the used Volvo was, and there was the 2001 SE wagon. $28,000 with 18K. Without even a chance to deal, the owner said 25,500. With research on every website, newsletter, and report I could get my hands on, and two test drives later (Fiance and self) it was over.
More Size, Faster engine, More Luxury, Better Handling, and Comfort than Volvo XC and Passat Wagon GLX. What more could I ask for.
Looking forward to continued posts of happiness!
sar
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