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Scott
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Volvoscott,
Are there any other mechanical issues you can tell me about regarding the C70 coupe. I appreciate the info about the engine noise. I still really like the C70 coupe, but they don't seem to be dealing on them much.
-carsteve
Aside from the normal 70 series problems, the C70's are bad about door lock motors going bad, and they are much more expensive to fix than the S/V 70's. And they sometimes have problems with the windows hitting the bottom of the door making a rather bad bump sound. If you're planning to buy one, go with a model year 99 or 2000. The 98's had way too many recalls and other stuff that was really annoying such as replacing the rear quarter windows. 99 brought volvo an all new computer system that is working out very well thus far, plus the 99 and 2000's have a 7500 mile service interval. Also I should mention that the 2000's also have a 5 speed auto instead of a 4 spd. it's holding up fine as well. Best of luck in your purchase, and if I can be of any help feel free to let me know.
Scott
I appreciate your insight. Thank you for the info. Unfortunately, the car is still a bit too pricey for my needs. Although I still love the car!
-Steve
I completely agree with volvoscott on:
a) engine noise at high rpm
b) bumping sound from the door window
I have already requested twice my dealership to take care of b) and they could not so far.
Also I had to do twice recently wheels balance. I do not know what is wrong. Dealership says it is typical for heavy 17' wheels that they get out of balance so easily. Anybody knows is it true? I do not believe it.
Also I am waiting for replacement of my wind shield due to upper rubber track layer defect.
The S60 is suppose to replace to S70.
Get all the latest information at:
http://www.Volvospy.com
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Leased a loaded 2000 C70LT and love the car. Pricey, but room for four, looks, performance (or what you can expect from a Volvo), and the fact that it is a Volvo - we are happy so far.
The price includes destination, full leather, Heated, cheaper wheel upg, traction, audio, trip, dim and walnut. MSRP is $49,325. Got the car in stock at a NY (Long Island) dealer for $45,210 which was $500 over cost + $300 advertising fees.
There lease #'s were very poor. They had Volvo finance and Chase. The best they could do was 54% and 48% on a 36 or 48 month lease w/ a MF of 33.5
Through advice I received on this site, I shopped around to other leasing agents and got AAA who uses PNC Bank for the lease. Their #'s were 56% and 51% on a 36 or 48 month w/ a MF of 32.5
Surprisingly, CarOrder.com beat the price by a $100 and their lease #'s were slightly better. I didn't use them because I didn't know how long it was going to take them to find the car and where it was coming but it may have been a good alternative.
Good luck
Marin
To sum it, while the car looks great, the seats and terrific, and the sound system is spectacular, I don't think it is worth the price. If I had the chance to do it over again, I would have gone with my other choice...BMW.
Note: So far, I love this Car!
1> It sounds like the 2000 model year has fixed many of the earlier ('98) flaws.
2> I do think the concept of comparing a C70s with BMW 3 series is silly. One's a sporty luxury car (C70) the other is a sports coupe. If you want a sports coupe to zip around in get the BMW (preferably, the M3). The c70 is a car for cruising in comfort, without totally sacrificing performance...(the perfect convertible).
I have yet to see the new Acura CL on the road. Many people in my office are planning on buying this car, which makes the C70 more appealing...yet it is still hard to swallow the extra $8K. Knowing Acura, these cars will be all over the road in no time at all.
Are the obvious quirks about this car (steering shimmy, road noise, door bumping, etc) really annoying? At the moment I would say that I’m between the CL-S and C70LT coupe and any hands-on comparisons are certainly appreciated. I am willing to give up performance for the uniqueness factor, luxury, improved comfort, etc.
The resale for these cars is awful. Case in point 1998 Silver/Grey 24,000 miles (my car) I have moved my price from $32000 down to my current price of $28000 and have not found a buyer????
Has anyone else had this problem? Trade-in is terrible. I have order something with a higher resale value to alleviate my current pain.
In January, I bought a C70 convertible black with tan interior and roof. I LOVE IT! My last car was the Beamer 3 series and this one tops it. So far, my service issues have been minor
- door to gas tank wouldn't shut
- squeek in suspension (oops! dealership forgot to remove shipping blocks)
- and scratch on fender (oops! dealership backed into another car)
The car's ride is superior to the beamer and the creature comforts it offers surpasses the beamer too. I had an offer on a Jag xj8 conv when someone mentioned the Volvo convertible. (I thought, yeah right! Im not a volvo type - you know, boxy but safe) When I saw and drove the car, I instantly knew this was the right car for me. The large interior, the easy roof.
Likes: heated seats! (in florida, who knew this would be great). body style, seat comfort, ergonomic design, the looks i get driving down the street, superb handling, size of the back seat, great pick up when taking off.
Dislikes: difficult to back up when the top is up
Hope this helps in making a decision
Best of Luck. Tom
Just have a quick question if you know of any more problems with the C70 HT aside from the possibility of the piston cooling valve and the possibility of Front Wheel Shimmy. I have ordered the C70 HT (wanted the 5spd Manual but the fiance dug in her nails and demanded the 4spd Auto, and the Moondust color instead of silver, and the tan interior instead of light grey... Jesus!!! At least I got my stereo) and it will be delivered in June or July. Trying to find any warning signs that I can so I can know what to expect should a problem arise.
Also, How long do I drive it before I can DRIVE IT? 1,000 miles??
Thanks,
Best of luck with your impending marriage.
My 2000 c70 convertible was just delivered to me. All seems just perfect.
My question to you is that you mentioned earlier that the c70s had 5 spd autos for 2000 and in your last post you say that your fiance requested the 4 sp auto which you ordered. I checked under my hood but can't find any thing to indicate if I have a 4 or 5 spd. How can I tell which one I have?
Thanks,
richc70
Scott
Enjoy driving
Tom
Hey ... sorry about that marriage thing. I just got this 2000 C70 convertible auto LT Moondust, tan inside and top with all the works.(except 17" wheels I wanted a softer ride) It must have gone to my head.
My car was built mid February 2000 but I checked the shifter and it says PRD321. I guess I got last year's 4 speed trans. Is there any way I might still have the 5 speed auto?
Thanks.
Rich
Thanks for the information. If it's all the same to everyone, I don't think that I am going to let Lisa know that she made some wonderful choices on my...er... OUR car.
One last question.
Chances are I won't have over 5k on it by the time we are taking our drive from Illinois to Colorado in August. Am I doomed to below 60 the whole way there or am I allowed to go over, just not accelerate so fast?
Thanks
Thanks for your advice, I really appreciate it since I want to keep this convertible for a long time.
Rich
May be a stupid question.
How will I know if my Turbo is leaking oil? I imagine I will smell it burning. Is there a certain spot that I should look for leaking oil?
As my last car was a '73 TR6, I am not sure where I would look for an oil leak because with those cars we would just pour a quart of oil over the engine every 500 miles or so.
You will quickly know an oil leak either by a technician telling you, or you will have a spot on your driveway. There are usually 2 places that the oil will leak from. 1 is the main inlet hose on the turbo itself. This is the one that is not always fixable. Usually, you can cut off about an inch of a bicycle intertube and stretch it over the turbo neck. Sometimes this will stop the leak totally. Others it will only slow it down, it's just a chance you take. The other place it's known to leak, is the turbo oil return line. This is easily fixed with a gasket and O-ring, and will likely need to be replaced under warranty. Not a big deal on either one though. And by the way, the only stupid question is the one not asked. Turbos are cool though, wonder if John Lingenfelter can make me one for my pickup?
schuhc, from what I know about breakins, you shouldn't keep the car on the highway at a constant speed.
If the limit is 60, you should vary it from 55 to 65 i.e. don't use the cruise.
Winfred:
I believe the standard is 3% over invoice. I paid 39,200 for my HT and invoice was 37,785 with the options I added. I would shop around a bit because I think the convertibles are so hot they are looking to move LT coupes off of the lots.
I ordered my C70 LT convertible,with everything extra except 17" wheels through Priceline. I paid $500 over invoice plus $50 fee to Priceline. I am very happy with my purchase.
Good luck.
Rich
Has anyone done this, and if so, any pointers?
The S40 seems to have the changer unit and what looks like a trasformer next to it - do I need to take out both from old car? Is the second box a transformer even?
All help gratefully received, albeit about 5,000 miles from where everyone else seems to post from.
Thanks!
I plan on keeping this car a long time so I am concerned about the reliability. My wife and I drove a used 1999 and felt that there was a lot of shaking noise from the door and the dash. I suspect that this is from not enough structural support causing the car to flex more than it should. I am also concerned about the seal of the convertible top after a few years. Saab definitely has more time on the road with the convertible, but my heart, and backside, keep pushing me to the Volvo.
I'd appreciate any comments from somebody who has driven the convertible for a year or so.
Go for the Volvo.
Brick4, regarding the 2001 C70. Is there even going to be such a thing? Volvo is supposed to discontinue the current 70 series, and replace it with the new V70, S60, and the rest is yet to be seen. Anyhow, the manual transmission is available in a 2000 model. Though rare, they do exist. We had one come across our lot and we couldn't give it away. Finally ended up dealer trading it to Virgina. Anyhow, keep my posted. Thanks.
Scott
Thanks again.
richc70
Best of luck Tom
RichC70, the magnetic drain plug is really a waste of money. If it did break loose, then yes it could damage parts internally. I've come across a few cars with these in them, and I immediately notice that the magnet is free of metal bits anyhow. Now, on the oil pan protector. Excellent investment. Volvo doesn't have a "problem" with this. The only problem is that people run over debris in the road. It happens. However, for $198 it's great insurance. A new oil pan is over $300. Already this year I've replaced 2 oil pans due to people running over debris on the road. Usually large rocks. If I owned a car of this caliber I'd have one on it. Hope this helps.
Scott
I would like to know what 'ipd' is so that I can look into that whole oil pan thing. As always, I am looking for anything that Scott brings up on this message board and if Scott things that this oil pan may be a good investment I think I should look into it. June 29 is the delivery date for Lisa's... er... OUR 4 speed auto/moondust C70.
Try www.ipdusa.com for Volvo aftermarket options.
Thanks.
-rdo
rdollie@mediaone.net
adding to rollie's post there. Go there and request a catalog. Their online stuff is a mere fraction of the products they offer. And their prices are much more friendly. Also be sure to check out the headlamp lens protectors. They are $58 a pair. They are also worth the money. I've replaced many headlamp assemblies where a small rock met it up close and personal.
Scott