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Volvo V70 Wagon Experience

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  • jrosasmcjrosasmc Posts: 1,704
    Oh yeah...did the 240's weak spots (i.e., fragile plastic interior bits, weak A/C, etc.) carry over until the end of the line in 1993?
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Aren't coming here until Aug-Sept.
    The 04.5 S40 will be here in 2 mos.

    The 240's interior got better, but the a/c never did.
  • jrosasmcjrosasmc Posts: 1,704
    I always hated the a/c in the 240s.
  • My folks had a 72 145E Wagon for 15 years - with dealer installed a/c as an option. Now that was some worthless a/c. Add to that a dark green exterior with nice black vinyl seats...we hated wearing shorts in the summer until my mom made a terrycloth backseat cover.
      
    Still it was a great car once Volvo sorted out the problems with the first year fuel injection system. Bosch Firetronic I think my dad used to say he called it. They got it 6 months before I was born and I learned to drive stick on it before my dad got rid of it. No power steering but could pull a U-turn just about anywhere. Also, I could hear them coming home at night from a mile away when I got older.
  • Our 2001 XC has sometimes/frequently had a loud clunk when after stopped for a red light we took off when it turned green. I had attributed it to (I think I read this somewhere) that the Volvo tranny shifts into neutral during long stops to save gas and the resulting clunk was the engagement into drive as we headed off. Now that we are nearing the end of the 50K warranty period, I'm not so sure. Does anyone have a similar experience?

    Another sound we are hearing is a new one. At about 1500 RPM if we are cruising under no load the engine/drive train willsometimes, not always, shudder as though about to stall (which it doesn't). The sound is like all of a sudden driving over a rumble strip on the shoulder of the interstate. Any ideas?
  • At close to 3000 miles on my 04 XC I would normally get my first oil change. I realize that this will be "on me" as the free maintenance is only every 7500 miles I believe. My question is the type of oil that these cars come delivered with. If it's synthetic, which I have never had before, isn't the major attribute over "natural" being decreased break down? If so than the 7500 mile interval is probably sufficient? Thanks in advance.
  • My wife's 04 V70 is in the same boat. She is near 3000 miles and I may just change it and then get it changed again at 7500 then every 7500 after that. I believe it does not come with synthetic from the factory, according to the V70 manual. I'm not sure if the XC is different but my guess is that they use the same oil.
  • hillflahillfla Posts: 90
    Hello to all-

    I am currently in the market for a vehicle and the XC-70 is at the top of my list. I test drove one last weekend and was very impressed. I am currently driving a GMC Envoy so the ride and comfort difference is enormous. The XC was so plush, smooth over bumps without the swaying side to side that I am used to. And the seats - wow! I do have a few questions though if this forum can possibly help me out?

    I am thinking of getting a XC-70 with the premium and touring packages.

    1 - Is the $1200 radio upgrade worth it? It sounds like it would be, but dealer did not have upgraded radio for me to listen to.

    2 - There is a $600-ish option for a "better" traction control system. Is that worth it? It sounds like the AWD system that the car comes standard with would be fine.

    3 - I forgot to look and the brochure is not helpful but is there a hitch provided with the vehicle? And if so, does anyone know what size it is?

    4 - According to what I read on the Volvo website, the heated seats automatically turn off once they have "warmed up". Does anyone know how long they stay on? And how warm do they get? I did notice that there is not high/low setting for them.
    Is there any way of keeping them on? I sometimes like to have the heated seats on for quite a while, it feels great on my back.

    4 - Does the laminated glass that comes with the touring package make a big difference in wind/road noise? That is one thing that REALLY bothers me with my Envoy is on the freeways the wind buffeting noise drives me to distraction - it is sooo loud!

    5 - Does Volvo provide a 24-hour test drive or something akin to that? It was very difficult to fully evaluate the vehicle on a 10-minute drive with the salesman in the front seat telling me where to turn. If not 24-hour, then has anyone had luck getting Volvo to let them take the car out on their own for an hour or so?

    Sorry for the long posting! Thanks for any and all help!
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    1 the radio is worth it if your an audiophile. However, it is not typically found on the XC70 so locating a car w/ the system may be difficult.
    2 DSTC, depends on where you live, most palces its overkill unless your an aggressive driver.
    3 Hitch is a dealer item, the XC70 will tow 3300 lbs w/ the hitch. No other mods are necessary.
    4 My S60R has the laminate, I love the difference it provides, also the fact that your stuff is more secure in the car.
    5 Volvo Cars doesn't offer a 24 hr test drive. You might be able to talk your dealer into it but some dealer insurance policies forbid having the cars out overnight. Most Volvo dealers use Volvo's as loaner cars for service, you might be able to drive one of those cars.
  • nobeenobee Posts: 194
    Hillfla, I just recently took ownership of a ’04 XC70 so let me try to answer your questions.

    1. I’m pretty satisfied with the regular radio. The bass is tight and undistorted and the treble sounds very clear. There is also a “hidden equalizer” that you can modify to tune the radio to your preference. Search for how to get to the hidden equalizer on the web. Bottom line: Save your $1200; the HU-613 is good for any stock system and certainly beats out the stock stereo in a 3-series BMW.

    2. Diehard XC70 owners would say if you’re buying the XC70 because of its safety features, why would you skimp and not option for the DSTC? The problem with DSTC is that many cars on the dealer lots do not have that option. If you want a XC70 with DSTC, you’ll most likely have to special order it. If it was me, I would divert the upgraded stereo money towards DSTC.

    3. Look at Volvomax’s response.

    4. During my 2.5 hrs Sunday drive, I had the heated seats on from the time I put the key into the ignition to arriving at my destination. At no point did the heated seats turn off by itself. I also found that they temp setting on the seat warmers are not as hot as I like; however, I heard you can easily raise the temp setting by asking your dealer to modify the VADIS settings for the heated seats. Can’t answer your question regarding laminated glass since I do not have it.

    5. Volvomax would know better than me.

    All in all, I’m very happy with my XC70. The first week I got my car, it snowed over a foot in my area and the XC70 went places where other cars could not tread. I would stop in the middle of a hill just to test out the AWD and it worked beautifully! If I had to do it all over again, I would definitely invest in DSTC.

    Warm regards,
    Nobee
    2004 XC 70, Metallic gold, Premium pkg, reverse radar, 12-volt in rear, auto-dim rear-view mirror, wood steering wheel, IAQS, cross-bars with ski rack
  • blizzardblizzard Posts: 1
    The other day the ignition key in my V-70 would not come out. I have tried all the conventional remedies. I have driven it for several days in this condition. everything works fine except that the key won't come out and the remote controls seem disabled as a result. Any thoughts on a solution? THX :)
  • hillflahillfla Posts: 90
    Thanks to Volvomax and Nobee for answering my questions. You have really helped me out and brought me closer to a decision. This week I am going to try and make it down to the other Volvo dealership in town (we have two and I have only been to one so far), and see what they have on their lot.

    Interesting about the heated seats. I'm glad to hear that they do not turn off on their own. I too had read about the fact that they are not very hot and that you can get that adjusted with the VADIS settings.

    Thanks Nobee for the tip on the "hidden equalizer". Good info to know! I did notice that the radio had no way of changing that like my Envoy does.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Sounds like the ignition cylinder isn't allowing the key to turn all the way to the off position.
    Since the key is in the ignition the remote is disabled.
    You should take your car to your Volvo retailer right away and let them look at it.
  • mkrsw1mkrsw1 Posts: 12
    i bet your shift lock override button is stuck.

    mike
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    What's VADIS, and what does it do?
  • stu15stu15 Posts: 9
    yeah....tell me more.....I wish my seats could be hotter too.....I'd love to be able to have them adjusted.
  • volvodan1volvodan1 Posts: 196
    It's been a little while since I was at our Volvo store, but VADIS is the diagnostic system Volvo tech's plug in to. It is kind of the brain for Volvo service. Volvomax may be able to shed more light.
  • stu15stu15 Posts: 9
    yeah....tell me more.....I wish my seats could be hotter too.....I'd love to be able to have them adjusted.
  • stu15stu15 Posts: 9
    I hope you are enjoying your Volvo! Vadis (Volvo After sale Diagnostic Information System) is the name of the computer system used by Volvo dealers which hooks up to your cars OBD II (On Board Diagnostics) connector to diagnose problems and to change settings on the car. One of the settings is the heated seats! Once Vadis is connected to your cars computer, it can go on line with one of the mother computers. One is located in the Carolinas and the other in Sweden. The mother computer can then communicate with your cars computer to diagnose problems showing up on your car such as when a check engine light appears, or if you need new or extra keys and remotes programmed to your car, the software upgrades can downloaded from the mother computer. The technology is amazing. There are other settings that can be also be altered such as the time delay on the approach lighting feature or turning off the daytime running lights or adding any of the many accessories Volvo offers
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Great stuff, stu! Do you know if it can also be used to change settings for the security alarm system -- ie. light-flash vs. audible "beep" arm/disarm confirmation; passive arming; delay-time for relock feature, etc?
  • tkoimmtkoimm Posts: 12
    As I weigh the merits of these two models, is it correct that the V70 handles better and is faster than the XC70?
  • tkoimmtkoimm Posts: 12
    And now back to the issue of the electromagnetic field (EMF) in Volvos. This appears to have been a topic of discussion on this message board a couple of years ago. As I understand it from reading about this subject on the internet, Volvos emit a higher EMF due to the placement of its battery in the back. Since this became news a couple of years ago, Volvo appears to have responded to the concerns of its European customers by offering a retrofit kit to diminish the EMF. From what I have been able to ascertain, however, Volvo does not offer the retrofit kit to American customers. My guess is that this is because EMF is less of a concern to the American buying public than to the European buying public. Is this a concern to any of you out there? Are any American Volvo owners demanding retrofit kits?
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    I had my V70 at the dealer for some warranty work (sunroof rattle) and got an XC70 as a loaner.

    Seat of the pants, I didn't notice a difference in acceleration between the two...off the line or at freeway speeds.

    My guess is the low pressure turbo merely compensates for the added weight of the AWD hardware. One thing I did notice...my V70 is more nimble than the XC70.

    I owned an AWD Buick Rendezvous for 2 1/2 years and, laugh as you may, it has a superior AWD system...which I was able to force into action a grand total of 3 times (and I mean force, as in goose the throttle from a standing start on a slick road).

    I don't think I'll ever buy another AWD vehicle...it's just not worth the added cost, added weigh, added maintenance, harsher ride, and less nimble handling.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    To me, the main advantage of an AWD vehicle is the convenience to be able to go without changing to snow tires all year round. But other than that, the lawman is right. You can do just about anything an AWD vehicle can do with a FWD with snow tires.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    is spam. No one has been able to link the Volvo's EMF field to any health issue. You get more exposure to electro-magnetic radiation just walking around outside.
  • tkoimmtkoimm Posts: 12
    Volvomax: I agree that EMF's effects on health is theoretical and there may be nothing to it. My question, however, is why does Volvo offer all these retrofit kits to UK Volvo owners (who are driving essentially the same cars) but does not offer them to US Volvo owners?
  • jrosasmcjrosasmc Posts: 1,704
    I think my mom is going to purchase a new V70 2.4 within the next couple of months. She only wants the basic model and we think that it is a great-looking safe car to drive anywhere at any time. And we've had great luck with the 2.4 engines in our 850 and S70.

    A little off-topic, Volvomax, but what did you make of the 850 series when it first came to America back in 1993? Did you think it was a good car then? I have one of the original '93 GLTs and it's still running strong at 103k miles.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    My guess is that the British are a little weird.
    Royal Family, afternoon tea, etc. Volvo UK evidently got more flak than Volvo North America did. Which is surprising considering the nabobs who call themselves consumer activists here. Guess Nader's too busy running for President.

    850's
    Probably no exageration that its the car that saved Volvo. Plus it pissed off entire legions of Volvo faithful with its fwd platform. The early ones's had the typical new model teething problems but overall very robust,safe, economical cars.
  • jrosasmcjrosasmc Posts: 1,704
    Why'd the 850 anger a lot of the Volvo faithful?
  • jrosasmcjrosasmc Posts: 1,704
    Volvomax...what do you think of the current Subaru Legacy wagons? I hear they're a great Japanese alternative to Volvos, and very reliable cars to boot (but I've never driven one). Right here in Vermont, my home state, there are plenty of Subarus of all kinds.
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