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Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable Wagons

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  • I have a 96 sable wagon. Bought it in 1999 in aug. Had 62,000 miles on it. It now has 112,500 on it. Has been a very reliable car. Other than oil changes and tires brakes, tune up we haven't spent any other money on it. OH a battery. Just went 2 years ago and it was the original. WE paid 10,500 for it in 1999. I love all the extras on it. Makes me feel like i am driving a luxuary car.LOL still getting decent gas mileage about 25-22 city and up to 29 highway. Just had a good tune up done brakes tires oil change belts all filters and it ran about 1,000. I love the roominest but have problems backing up bumper has seen better days. Was thinking of trading it in but it is all paid for and still looks decent. I wouldn' t recomend putting michelin tires on it though. Like the generals. Good price and the ride is nice and smooth. The power window on the passenger side has not worked for about a year not sure if i am going to replace it. Kids broke it in the winter trying to put it down when it was frozen. Still has good power going up the hills i travel all up hill 17miles to work. It is shifting very hard in first gear so i have to get that checked out. My husband hit a tow truck with it on the passenger side and didn't even relize it was his car. Very solid. I feel safe driving it. Wouldn't buy another one kids are getting older and i don't need all that much room any more. Oh by the way a GREAT SHOPPING CAR> Many purchases fit right in.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    I wrote a couple of months ago about what was thought to be a cut wire inside the rubber boot going to the lift gate. I started noticing sound cutting in and out as I move the lift gate up and down. Checked inside that boot and found what looked like another cut wire, but that wasn't it. After checking very carefully I located the wire and the copper obviously broke inside the insulation. Since no one has had access outside of my sight I now know it is bad wiring. Their are not sufficient strands and gauge to stand that flexing and eventually the insulation breaks as well. I've worked aircraft wiring and electronics for many years and know what I'm talking about. This presents a dangerous situation where lighting on the gate in particularly brake lighting will malfuncion. Ford needs to recall all wagons with this deficient wiring and fix.
  • My transmission on my 99 wagon had been having trouble shifting between 1st and 2nd. It would rev a little than catch heavily. I researched and found that the fluid in the transmission needs changed on a schedule. It has 76000 miles however I have only had it about 10000 miles and do not know if the fluid was ever changed. The dealer said there was some metal in the bottom. Happy to say the transmission has yet to slip. Well worth the $71.00. I'll keep you all posted. I really do not want to place a new trans in it.
    Roger
  • My trans on my 96 sable wagon is doing the same thing shifting very hard between 1st and 2nd. I checked the fluid and it seems fine. I was told not to change the fluid if it didn't need it because that might be more problems. After hearing your story i will have it checked out. I have been afraid to have it checked for fear of something major and we just dumped about 1,000 dollars into it between brakes tune up , tires , belt etc. It has 112,000 miles on it and we never changed the fluid. Bought it at 62,000 miles on it. I think it is time.
  • My wife and I just bought a '97 Sable LX Wagon, all the bells and whistles (except CD player). 70,000 miles, $5000. As with all used cars, it's a gamble, but it's a one owner wagon whose previous owner wanted an SUV (poor silly) - and it seemed very, very smooth when I test drove it.

    I'll keep you all informed how things go.

    SanFranDan
  • snowmansnowman Posts: 540
    They are extremely hard to spot around Philly area. I am looking for the Duratec engine. Oh man! I may end up buying SES sedan but I really lova to get wagon. This will be second Taurus in service for my family. I got 2000 SES 42K.
  • I went to cars.com, and looked up Taurus Wagons. There are 42 used ones for sale within 50 miles of zip code 19102. The first one I checked on had the 24V engine, so don't get a sedan if you want a wagon.

    SanFranDan
  • With as many Tarus wagons are sold every year you will notice no issues. I had problems with my $6000. 1999 -76K Miles. The trans would slow shift from 1 to 2nd. Lucas Transmission fix cleared it up. Comes in 24 oz. at Auto Zone I believe.

    Roger
  • nelsoncmnelsoncm Posts: 103
    I had the brake lights on my 2000 Sable wagon go out 3 times on me in the first year and a half I had the car. There was a safety recall on the car for the brake light switch, but the clowns at the dealership couldn't fix it right the first two times. The car would lock in park, and even once I got it moving, no brake lights. The problem had not resurfaced for about 6 months, then I traded it in for something else. Don't know if it's the exact same problem e_net_rider was talking about, but it's sounds similar.
  • Friends,

    I'm in need of the interior front drivers door panel for a 1996 Sable Wagon. Grey interior. Electronics not needed, but will take if you dont want to part it out. The mounting bosses, towers stancions...whatever you want to call them...have broken on mi wagon. Previous owner was heavy handed on slamming the door. Anyone know of a place I can find one?

    Thanks,

    Jon
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,564
    I would check with used autoparts places. Since there have been a lot of Tauri on the road, finding a replacement used inside panel shouldn't be too difficult. I doubt if the station wagon panel is different from the sedan, so you should be able to find a used one, I would think. Get on the phone and call them up. This would save a lot of chasing around.
  • nmknmk Posts: 111
    purchased a 2000 Sable ls wagon two weeks ago.
    Airbag indicator is on 90% of time, Low Coolant indicator flashes intermitantly. Both check out ok.
    Suddenly, my battery went dead, had it jumped started and it was fine. When parked, my wife noticed that the rear break lights had come on, this after we had left the car for about 15 mins.
    Some how by retarting and then shutting the engine, the lights shut off but came on again after some time. This apparently is how the battery became dead the first time.

    Any thoughts on this peculiar problem?
    Thanks for any info.

    NMK
  • automan227automan227 Posts: 118
    I believe there is a recall out for your break light problem. Might want to call your local dealer.

    AS
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,564
    My 2000 Taurus sedan did that just before the warranty ran out. I assumed it would be a faulty coolant level sensor, but they replaced the entire coolant overflow tank. Since it was under warranty and no cost to me, I did not question further. I believe the cost would have been about $150 if I would have had to pay for it.
  • sablesable Posts: 1
    I'm into my third wagon, either Mercury Sable (2) or Ford Tarus (1) and am NEVER going to own either a Ford or Mercury again, (I HOPE!).
    The third vehicle (a 2004 Mercury Sable wagon) I have is a replacement for a lemon 2003 (Mercury Sable wagon) that I had. The replacement vehicle, which was gotten with only a few month's delay, has less than 4000 miles on it and I've just survived a caliper bolt/caliper/wheel failure. It was replaced with no charge and I'm thankful that I was off the expressway when the car froze up!
    As I said before, never again for a Ford/Mercury product...and I've had them since 1970...problems since the late 1980s.
    t
  • snowmansnowman Posts: 540
    I guess, someone was forcing you to buy FoMoCo products for last 34 years.
    BTW, I find no merit on your post since I can't understand what you mean by
    "caliper bolt/caliper/wheel failure" and
    "car froze up!"
  • nelsoncmnelsoncm Posts: 103
    I dumped my 2000 Sable wagon in 2002 after numerous build quality problems, a couple of them safety-related, including the infamous brake lamp switch. (Also a broken roof rack crossbar after 3 usages, a rear door panel that just fell off the car, and improperly installed seatbelts!) While the build quality on my Saab wagon is considerably better and reliability has been great, I'm already on the hunt for another car as the Saab is really lacking in cubby space and I like a smoother ride. I've researched so many vehicles, Toyota, Volvo, Acura, Honda, and yes, even Ford. I practically live on this website. You know what? They all have problems. Nobody builds a bullet-proof car anymore. Was looking at a 4Runner yesterday and couldn't believe the cheap plastic and flimsy doors. Honda and Acura are having tranny problems. Volvos have a rep for electrical bugs. And Ford, well, they're Ford. You just have to do your homework, keep your fingers crossed that you get a good car but not be surprised when you have problems...sigh!
  • grant1grant1 Posts: 1
    You definitely need to change the xmission fluid / filter by the book. If you're harder on it by haulin' heavy fertilizer, mulch, people, lumber, etc. and do lots of short hard trips, you should change it more often (every 15,000). 1990 Taurus wagon burned out the tranny (I learned the above lesson the hard way.) My mechanic put in a Jasper refurbished tranny w/3 year warranty and it was fine after that (much less expensive.) Furthermore, '99 Sable Wagon is one of the best cars I've ever had. Got the Duratec V6, plenty of power and still good gas mileage. My wife drives it most and loves it (which is rare indeed.) Got it new, 77,000 miles now, still looks and runs like new w/just regular maint and tuneups; fingers crossed.
  • otis12otis12 Posts: 160
    ala the new Malibu Maxx? I ask because I have a 12-foot ladder.
  • I just purchased a 1997 Taurus wagon, and I can't locate the CD changer. HELP!!!!
  • Just wanted to chime in. Wife and I are in the process of purchasing a heavily discounted, "Z" plan priced 04 Sable LS premium wagon. Has all bells and whistles. Is Arizona beige metallic, and has med. parchement leather interior. We test drove an 05, and were duly impressed. We cross shopped 04 Freestars. The wagon comes in @3500 cheaper, fully loaded vs. middle of the road Freestar. Anyone have an 04 wagon?
  • Decided to post this to "pay back" this great website for all the info it's provided me.

    Bought the Mercury Sable wagon used in July 00 for 16.2K with 24K miles. Bought extended warranty too to 4/03 for added 1.2K. NEVER USED IT.
    1. This 98 now has 90.6K miles on it.
    2. Two drivers, 6-2" male & 5'7" female. "Normal" mix of highway & city; maybe slightly biased to highway. Overall 22 MPG when carefully measured on long trips with 70-75MPH sustained speeds.

    3. Normal accessories. Make excellant use of power driver seat, reclining front seats, fold down split rear seat. Sound system w cassette is outstanding. Controls on sound system and heat/AC are great. Cruise control great. Wish we had tilt wheel.

    4. Maintenance issues to date. Total maintance cost to date (ex extented warranty) = $1457. Major items: brakes ft & r @ 77K miles = %571; replace coolant overflow tank @ 65K miles = $126; replace heater bypass tube & hose @ 81K miles = $135 plus $44 to flush cooling system. Veru easy on tires: 2 Goodyr Viva Touring tires @ 60K and 2 more of same @ 77K miles, total cost $340 @ Walmart. Only other costs for oil changes & bulbs (had to replace upper brake light twice; first time @ dealer cost $91; second time DIY cost $4.60. This car still has it's original battery.

    6. Overall impressions pro/cons: Has been a very comfortable, inexpensive vehicle to own. Am considering a second one (but also looking at the Dodge Magnum, which has better fit for 6'-2" driver).

    7. All this after very BAD experience with earlier Ford Taurus Wagon (transmission and more).
  • Has anyone heard rumers that the Ford Taurus is being discontinued by Ford??
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,564
    Yes, Taurus likely will be discontinued completely in the next 1-3 years. It is still around for 2005 model year, though with less models available, only SE and SEL. May still be around for 2006. Ford is being vague.

    Replaced by Five Hundred sedan and Freestyle wagon/suv which are on the market now and are bigger than Taurus. Also in 2006 model year Ford Fusion will be introduced which likely will be just a bit smaller than current Taurus but may have about the same amount of room as current Taurus sedan. I don't know if they will have a wagon version of Fusion available.
  • A year ago I posted that my wife and I purchased a '97 Sable LX wagon. Here's how things have gone:

    Right after we got the car, the driver's door window motor broke. That was about $300, and I was very worried. Since then, no troubles. We've put 15,000 miles on the car this last year, and everything runs fine. My daughter and I drove to Washington State and back (1800 miles round trip) without any problems and while getting ~27 mpg. My brother and I drove to eastern Nevada earlier this month and likewise everything was great (worse mileage, but we were going ~85 mph most of the way).

    My wife is 4'10", and even when the seat is at its highest position, she's like the "Where's the Beef" lady, peering over the top of the dash. She prefers her '02 Civic.

    I like that I can reach the roof rack without a ladder - unlike with minivans. I also like the fold-flat seats, which are only now being surpassed by vans. Given that we paid $5000 for the vehicle, I'm a very, very satisfied driver. I wish the rental car companies bought more wagons, so there'd be more of 'em floating around used....
  • While driving along the desolate reaches of Eastern Nevada (starkly lovely, by the way), my brother and I went over 100 mph several times and hit 110 once. It took a while to get to 110 from 100, but it did so smoothly (unlike me, who was getting awfully nervous).

    I'm sure people have gone faster - what's the fastest you've gone in your Taurus or Sable wagon?
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,564
    I may be wrong, but I believe there is an electronic speed limiter on these cars. Once you hit that the throttle cuts out and you can't go any faster.

    I stopped doing those high speed runs many years ago. Too much risk involved, not to mention the mucho dollars in fines, points, and insurance premiums if you get caught. Just not worth it.
      
    Go get your thrills in an amusement park instead!
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    Sable wagons are not intended for use as performance vehicles, regardless of their speed. Unless you're on a closed-course track in controlled conditions, don't bother checking (or replying).

    kcram
    Host - Wagons
  • I sure don't plan on making 100+mph runs part of my daily routine. The added insurance costs alone would, over the years, cost more than my
    wagon did. I know driving fast is no joke - that kinetic energy is proportional to velocity squared (accident @ 110 mph is FOUR times as bad as one @ 55).

    I-50 between Fallon and Ely is as straight, well-paved, and sheriff-ignored a stretch of road as exists anywhere. Before the trip, I had checked everything on the car, including tire wear and pressure. The weather was cool, but well above freezing. It was as safe an environment as one could hope for to go fast.

    There are many driving maneuvers, such as going 60 in heavy traffic or in the rain, or making cell phone calls, or changing the radio station, or reading a billboard, that are more dangerous than paying TOTAL attention to your driving as you go 110 mph on dry, straight, isolated I-50.
  • FWIW, I was up to @105 in wife's 2 month old Sable LS premuim wagon. I was on a two lane back country 55mph road, there were 4 slowmovers, doing just the limit. I hung back, knowing there was a passing zone coming up. Then I punched it, the 24 valver jumped to life, and I passed them with ease, I looked at the speedo, and it marked 105. The tranny snapped off the down, then up, shifts with pleasant performance. I wasn't trying to go that fast, wife and mom in law, and kid were in car. Other than that, cruise control was at 63.
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