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Audi has no wagon to compare to a fully decked out E500. Too bad we can't get the E55 Wagon in the States. If you can find a copy there's a great review of it in a British pub "Mercedes Enthusiast".
For used car buyers, the Audi warranty is not as comprehensive as Starmark for which there is also no co-pay.
By the way, the e-mail address in your profile leads one to believe you are employed by an Audi dealership. Your bias is showing!
By the end of the year Audi will have the A7 (Both the Porsche and VW SUV's are based on this vehicle) available in the US. 493hp at the base cost of $65k. Any intelligent person knows that Audi owns the crown for best interior designs (including fit and finish.) Premium markets in Europe are decidedly controlled by the Audi product. By the way, the A7 will also have the truly inspiring MMI system for component control and 8 passenger seating without compromising the cargo space.
The tailgate on my E320 wagon does not consistently close when using the automatic button. It will come down halfway then go back up. GRRRRRRRRRRRR. There is nothing in the way to prevent it from closing. The real problem is, it will always close for the dealership. I have returned it to the service dept twice and twice it seems to work for them. They've checked the software and "normalized" the thing (whatever that means) and still I have an issue with it. They will not take it apart and check for glitches as long as it works for them. Anyone have this problem? Any solutions?
I'm pretty sure I'm going to get rid of the car if it isn't straightened out soon. My sanity depends on it! Thanks.
I am looking for a good wagon that can accomodate three car seats in the second row. Therefore, I had three questions for the new E-class wagon owners.
1) Is the LATCH system designed for 3 seats?
2) Has oneone actually put three kid-seats in the back?
3) Does the wagon have as many problems as the E sedan or C-class (We have C- class that is making us hesitate to buy another MB)
Thanks for the help.
I'm curious as to whether you know of any other vehicles (other than the E-Class, potentially) that are supposed to accomodate three child seats in the second row?
Matt
Still trying to fingure this one out. We are considering a 5 series BMWer wagon, the E-class or Lexus RX330. We are staying away from Volvos, SUVs (exept Lexus with reasonable gas mileage) and Minivans. My first preference is actually the BMW since the service history on our C-class is abismal and I hear E-class is no better. I have posted on a couple of boards, but it seems like most people go with a minivan when having multiple children.
I have a friend that fits his three kids into the back seat of the Volvo XC90. That seems to work fine if you do not buy the bulky kid seats. The MDX is another option (although I think that is just a minivan with increased ground clearance).
I was told that three kids seats should be able to fit into any car that has more than 55 inches in the back, but I have not tried. That said, most cars only come with a LATCH system for two seat.
So the short answer is "no", I have not found the right car yet. Our "additon" does not arrive till the end of October, so we have some time to look, just hoping it won't have to be a minivan.
I am now on my FOURTH set of tires for this car! The dealer says that
I need to rotate my tires every 3000 miles!!! It seems that my tires wear unevenly when the wheels are aligned as per the manuf specs, so we now align them a little differently to improve the wear. I understand that 4wd can be tougher on tires, but REALLY! I am now off warranty, as well, and trolling around for a car with three rows (no negotiation on that option) that fits into my small garage- height max of 70 inches. I certainly have enjoyed the luxury aspects of this car, but I really have been disappointed by the frequency of maintenance (and expense) required!
I have just tried the Toyota Highlander, and am intrigued by the prospect of a hybrid in it, though it certainly aint my EClass MB! The Acura MDX seems to fit my criteria as well... Any ideas out there?
Was my Eclass typical of the brand and type? If so, I need to look elsewhere!!!
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The new wagon has a luggage capacity of 24.4 cu. ft. and a maximum cargo capacity of 68.9 cu. ft. The S210 model was reported -- in Mercedes-Benz material -- to have luggage capacity of 43.8 and maximum cargo capacity of 83.0, but the oddity of the large difference between the two models failed to attract anyone's attention internally. (How's that for honesty?)
I was alerted to the discussion on Edmunds and decided to ask my colleagues if they had an explanation. A check of the statistics with the folks in Germany revealed that the true numbers for the S210 are 21.2 cu. ft. and 69.7 cu. ft. -- very close to the numbers for the current S211 model.
So where did the inaccurate numbers come from? Like all vehicle specifications, they came from the parent company. No one knows for sure, but it's suspected that someone must have used a wrong formula or wrong measurements to calculate the cargo space. (I'm not a mathematician, so I can't explain it.) But no one ever caught it -- until now.
The cargo numbers have now been corrected on edmunds.com, too.
I was interested if any other owner had experienced a similar problem?
There's something wrong internally, but this seems to suffice. Also, the microphone picks up a lot of peripheral sounds and also sounds hollow to the listeners.
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After spending many hours perusing the Forum for an answer, I've decided to post my question/situation. I was hoping for some direction regarding adding AWD to the vehicle I'm currently in the process of ordering with my dealer.
Although I'm looking into a sedan, I figured the "wagon folk" would have some wisdom and insight into the AWD system.
I'm about to purchase a new E500 and am very curious about potential shortcomings and perceived/known benefits of the All Wheel Drive system. I once test drove an Audi (4 series) with the Quatro system and felt that it accelerated like a sick dog. There was a large perceptible lag from pedal to response time. I ended up with a BMW 528 instead.
I'm now looking "for something different" and a E500 MB seems to fill that want. I currently drive at all hours (day/night) due to the nature of my job and irregardless of the weather. I lived 9 years in Chicago with a Mustang GT, so my driving skills are aptly honed by that experience. I surely love the concept a vehicle that would stick to the road in all conditions (including the recent heavy rains I've been driving through in the steep mountain passes I have to travel in my current California residence). I feel avoiding one accident or spinout on a highway such as these will easily justify any extra charge for the AWD and the slight sacrifice in gas mileage.
However, I'm afraid that the AWD will sacrifice performance and make the E500 I get "less peppy" to drive (i.e., loss of acceleration), but maybe that was just because I test drove an underpowered vehcile (i.e., the Audi A4). Furthermore, are these systems breakdown prone?
I'm grateful for any thoughts or advice you folks might have on this issue.
You can't go wrong with 4 Matic and the 5 liter. I have friends with the E320 4 Matic and love theirs too. Put one on the road for about an hour, then decide.
I am searching for a used e320 wagon '99-01
I just drove a '99 which had nuematic lumbar/contouring seats. Is that standard equipment or an option?
Thanks for response and any insights on buying a used wagon.
I've owned a 2004 E-500 wagon since March of 2004. It's an AWD and I don't think AWD decreases performance one iota on the E-500. This is a superb touring vehicle. But beware of one thing: I replaced the tires at 7000 miles. The rear ones barely passed the annual Pa state inspection and the front ones might have lasted until 15M or so. They were Continental ContiTouring tires with a super soft compound, totally ill-suited for this car. I complained to MB of North America and got short shrifted with a primer on tire wear, info. any teenager would know. Look for the DOT treadwear rating stamped on ther sidewalls, anything less than a 400, don't accept.
The car runs great and doesn't have any oil leaks.
However, the engine idles rough and is rather noisy for a Mercedes.
Any suggestions? Do I need a tune-up? Is it necessary to use a certified Mercedes shop?
What year? What kind of
problems???
Can you tell me if you happy w/your car? Have there been any problems? Please let me know.
-Thanks,
Let me know what you did and if your happy?
thanks
Regards
I learned you must baby them more than 3 series BMW but if you do they will run forever too.
I just love the classic look,space, comfort and ride!!!
yes it was 4 matic....
I own a Volvo 95 850 GLT Wagon....runs great, rides stiff, im the 2nd owner, 80 K....and i want something different....I would like to get a Yudkon or Tahoe, but the wife is not into big trucks, so when I saw the add for the E320, I said to myself BINGO.
The other thing is we are putting on an extention to our house and to spend the 17K (taxes and all) on a car that I really dont need......nough said.
Good luck with your car!
-Rich
My son is 16 months old. He uses a big heavy seat whose brand I cannot remember now. The car seat fit well in the side rear seat. However, with it in only one additional person could be seated on the rear seat. I also tried to put the car seat in the center rear seat. It worked. Two additional persons could be seated. But the space was tight. So if you intend to carry 5 without using the 3rd row make it sure you don't buy a big car seat. If you only intend to carry 4 then there shouldn't be a problem.
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a couple mpg more on the highway, a couple less around town.
what to expect to pay annually for service? be afraid. imho these cars are subject to the
bathtub curve of reliability/repairs. many early repairs, not so many later on,
then many more much later on. hopefully you'll find one in the middle of the bathtub curve when the car will maybe be reliable. otherwise, i hope you have lots of cash set aside for random pricey repairs. my advice, compare with a new/warranteed volvo v70.