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Things should improve as we get into the early
summer...
Thank you for your kind words...PS
- there does seem to be low (wagon) inventory at local (west of Boston) dealers
- however, rather than switch, we'll wait (2 months, I'm told)
We seriously considered V70s and looked disinterestedly at others (Suby, Saturn, the A6), and there's really nothing out there that does it for us like the 1.8t 5spd wagon. So we'll wait. Signed last weekend on a car in Germany that is in production (no VIN yet). 7 weeks, 1 day, and counting....
In Canada it seems to be the same story all over again for the 2001.5 Passat Wagon. Vw Toll-free information line staff inform me that the Wagon is in Canada already. Well someone should have told the dealers cause they don't know about it. Dealer opinion on arrival of the wagon varies from May to September, to" I don't think we're getting it til the 2002 model year."
Even the sedan is hard to find. One maybe two per dealer. Good luck getting a test drive.
No shortage of Volvo and Subaru wagons. The new H6 3.0 is a great ride.
Looks like VW blew another opportunity. Last VW in this driveway was 1995. And I agree with others, the two year warranty is a pathetic. Stand behind your German engineering.... once you figure out the production side.
certainly no secret that the new, redesigned Passat of 1998 has launched
this VW product onto an entirely different plateau...I sold a rather reasonable
number of '96 & '97 Passat Wagons...and have sold, or more acurately had
the opportunity to sell a grand total of 1...yes, 1 Passat Wagon...vintage 1997,
GLX, Green/Beige Leather. It was a trade for a '98.
Certainly we broke no Sales records with that product, but this was in a different
time...VW was a product that had a following...a cult following, if you will. We are
now very main stream...just follow the threads.
It is my belief that the folks that have these Wagons will keep them, and run them
into the ground, because they own the last of a breed...these are the people that wave
to other VW drivers passing in the opposite direction on roads all across America and
have done so for decades...I don't think new Passat owners, although I know they
love their cars, feel the same comraderie.
So, good luck in your search...there are plenty of places to look...finding might
be a little tougher...
If i remember correctly
two gls / c. red/ anth. grey
the rest are v6 and/or 4 mo. a couple of white and another grey, don't remember the rest,
they have been there for probably close the three months.
If you really wanted one they would cut a deal and ship it BACK to the mainland. (that's a new one)
there seems to be a scarcity of wagons at the BEGINNING of the Model runs,
the economy is stalling, I would guess there will be a glut of inventory about Sept. that's the time to cut a deal.
the dealers will eat their mrsp words about then
just purchased a 01.5 P wagon GLS 1.8T automatic blue with leather, luxury, monsoon, cold weather, and homelink. i was able to get it at $100 over invoice (invoice was 25,397, msrp was 27,300). here was my strategy - i went in, test drove it and offered 4000 under the msrp of 27,300. the dealer kind of laughed but took it to the boss. the dealer came back with the invoice sheet just to show what they "paid" for the car. i compromised to 3000 under msrp. the dealer said that is still under invoice and will not work. eventually we got to about 25,500. my goal was to get it for under 25,000 and could not get the dealer below 25,500.
i walked out that day and called around to other dealerships only to find out that they didn't have any on their lot or they didn't have anthing in a 4 banger. one dealer laughed on the phone when i mentioned paying below invoice - that dealer said maybe they could budge a little from msrp, but nothing close to invoice. after hours of calling and searching the web, i figured i had a pretty good deal with the first dealer. the next day i called to see if the car was still there, went down and purchased it.
before doing any of this i read the very informative edmunds article on buying a new car. i followed pretty much all the advice the article provided - stuck to the price of the car, not the payments, knew what the car was valued at (invoice, tmv, and msrp), and avoided being talked into a different car that i didn't want.
www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/42962/article.html
all of this was in ohio
good luck
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in Boston this week and there were no manual shift GLX wagons on the boat.
i paid 24,890 for the same but included luxury (wheels and sunroof).
Your deal sounds decent. See if you can get the luxury package at dealer cost. The alloy wheels compliment the chrome trim really well.
My deal got me extras at dealer cost. Leather was added. This made it much easier to find a car. Good luck finding something. Open options are a good thing.
I tried to buy a 2000 in april of last year, none available, told to wait for the 2001's July, waited none available, regional rep said why don't you wait for the 2001.5's we will build one!
waited unitl Jan 2001 they said "will build in weeks 12 to 14" NOTHING, rep came up with an order # WRONG CAR! Last WAS car is being built in week 18 and it will be a 2002. THAT week ended Yesterday! NOTHING SHOWS UP ON THE COMPUTER!
I think the higher powers that be say "DON'T BUY A VW" at least oneI WANT.
GOOD LUCK people, it been a really frustrating, mis informed ride,
I hope NONe of you NEED A CAR, that is the worst position to by in, I WANT ONE BUT DON'T NEED ONE>
here I come BMW< Mb, toyota subaru, anything but VOLKSWAGEN
I am assuming that the Passat Wagon might be a good choice since it seems people want them. But is that only the newer models? What about the '91 ?
In Canada, this one is $5,500, mint, loaded. Does that seem reasonable?
thanx
local dealer looked for a month and couldn't find any. I left a message on this board (#221)
and got a reply that I should check with other dealers. Good idea I thought. Called a trusty
high volume dealer that I know personally in CT who said no problem, there are two available
at another dealer. Great I said , and gave him a credit card deposit on the spot. A couple of hours later he called back to say sorry they'd already been sold. Haven't heard from him since.
I guess VW is giving up on manual transmissions. Tried the Tiptronic, it's just another
slush box. Guess I'll have to pass on VW.
being built this week...Silverstone/Black Leather who do you want it shipped to?
leather GLX 5spd stick wagon next week. I found a resourceful dealer and though he's in a neighboring state,
it'll be worth the trip. Didn't have to pay a premium, actually hit near Edmunds market rate. All the other dealers
II called said I'd have to wait for the 2002's.
By the way, I appreciate everyone's contributions here, especially vwguild's. Thanks.
By the way, I appreciate everyone's contributions here, especially vwguild's. Thanks.
dealer service dept., they told me to make sure the gas cap was on tight. I took the cap off and
put it back on, being careful to fully tighten it. After a few starts the check engine light went
off and hasn't gone on again. Don't know if this will help, but it's an example of how sensitive
(and misleading) engine warning sensors can be.
I apologize for the long posting. Robert
for a gls wagon with leather and no LUX pack
So 7 months is a dream!!!
I don't think it's takes that long just for testing, there is probably a week or two of figuring out what car goes where, and the a couple of days of just goofing around.......
Actually, the trip across the pond takes about a week...the Port Prep Process
typically takes about 11-12 days...now, that is what I am familiar with, based
on how things work at the Port of San Diego. I have never visited our Boston
facility or Delaware, but I would suspect that the additional time might just be a
part the normal Tri-State area bottleneck...from off-loading thru the PPC and even
in-transit to Dealers.
Another component could be a *Parts Hold*...The Port process is indeed rigorous
and thorough and 95% move through the system in the time frame previously mentioned,
but occasionally a part needs to be replaced and sometimes that part has to be
shipped from Germany. I had this occur just last month with a EuroVan Weekender
that needed a new Steering wheel...a rare part failure that has taken this unit down
for a month...
But fear not...you'll be cruising the ole NJ Turnpike in no time...now, that is somethig to
look forward to...
scheduled with the exception of the addition of a new Head Unit
to begin week 32 (end of July). M/Y 2002 in Production now...
Thanks VW guild for the clarification on the octane requirement. I am a new member of this site and am currently reading all the past postings. I have had two older 60's beetles and three rabbits. Can't wait to get my new Passat/.
Production cycle...2002 units are in production now; the replace-
ment Head Unit whether it be the one Jamie profiled over on
the vortex or an AM/FM/CD will be become part of the flow
beginning in August...
VWguild: I've read that the VW production in Germany shuts down in August, Germans love their vacation, is that true? When you say "part of the flow in August" do you mean cars available in August or those starting production after July?
Thanks again!
So far the car has been flawless and I'm very pleased with it. However you're somparing cars in different price segments. Although a fully loaded GLX 4-Motion can list in the low 30's the Passat mainly competes in the 23-30k segment. I don't know the exact cost of the new 2002 MB C class wagon, I imagine the base model will start in the 35k range and with an option or two will go into the 40's. Same with a 525T. Other wagons in this price range include Audi A4's &A6's, Saab 9-5's and the Volvo V70's. Then there's the MB E class around 50k:)
I love my Passat and believe it competes very well in it's class but if I could afford it, I'd be awful temped by some of the Audi & BMW models or even the MB. Before I bought my Passat I was seriously considering a used MB E class wagon. It all depends on your budget, needs amd taste.