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  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I do the drain-refill over several times over the course of a few months and evntually get all the non-synth out.

    For the diffy I use a regular ratchet or breaker bar, but I do have air tools and electric impact if need be :)

    -mike
  • fibber2fibber2 Mid Hudson Valley, NYPosts: 3,735
    Allard,

    So you were running the engine. I thought from your initial post that it was off - why I answered it in the way I did.... Sorry.

    Subi say to just drain and refill the pan 1x time. So you change around 50% of the fluid. I also have an '02 Ody. Honda says, IIRC, to do the drain and refill 3x in a day, or something like that. This would remove about 90% total. I guess that the current thinking is that unless you abuse the unit, changing part will be good enough.

    Steve
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    My suggestion?

    Get a Subaru Chase credit card, earn Subaru bucks, then let your dealer do the service and pay for it with that credit.

    Free service!

    -juice
  • The main reason I did the flushing according to Amsoil instruction was I was switching to Redline D4 synthetic ATF, and I wanted to remove the nonsyn out as much as possible. Next time, I stick with Paisan method. If you are interested in the Amsoil instruction, here is the link.

    http://www.amsoil.com/faqs/faq8.htm

    Hey Juice, I do enjoy reading your post. The amount of bill that I put on my credit card, I probably have to wait about ten year before I can get a free service. By then, I will move on to a different car. Humm.., I think I should start paying my mortgage with the credit card. This way, it will speed up the free service. One of my friends puts all the bills including mortgage on the credit card and write a huge check to credit card company every month.

    Alland
    ( 02 LL Bean, Mobil 1 5W30 every 7500 miles with pure one filter, Redline ATF, next step 75W90 Redline on front and rear diffy)
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Hopefully you ordered the amsoil through my teamiac page :)

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    We just got our card, and we charge a lot. My wife even charges business expenses on hers, and she's often reimbursed, so Bingo - free Subaru bucks.

    The really nice thing about the program is you don't have to buy a car like you do with the GM card. Being able to use it for service means no matter what happens they won't just go to waste.

    -juice
  • ebony5ebony5 Posts: 142
    So far I have received $400.00 in Subaru Bucks-the latest $100.00 installment is going to go for 4 new tires of my choice (Yokohama LS4's) The Service Manager is getting them for me(they do not stock them)and meeting the price of the local tire dealer. By taking advantage of this card I have managed to save money (the overall cost is less than it would have been had I purchased them online),have them installed at a convenient location and continue a good relationship with the Service dept. It seems like a win-win situation to me
  • Hi,

    Looking to trade in my Saab for a Subaru legacy outback wagon.

    Are their any particular mechanical issues to look for? Reliability? Durability? Etc?

    Thanks!

    Rick
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    http://www.media.mazda.com/news_release/product_info/2004/0924a_e- .html

    They will be bringing a MazdaSpeed6 to the States. Turbo and AWD.

    -Brian
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Seems to me that the system isn't that robust if they need to have a coolant system for the diffy! Seems odd and just something else to worry about. Also will the AWD be on all of them or an "option"?

    -mike
  • ozman62ozman62 Posts: 229
    marketing thing is starting to sound kind of infantile. It doesn't really go with what Mazda is trying to accomplish with this car, IMO. I think it could became a liability soon.
    Owen
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Sweet, tires, didn't even think of that...

    2001/2002 models, let's see.

    The 2.5l was standard on all models except the VDC and the LL Bean, which had the H6. By the the 2.5l was the Phase II EJ25.

    When you shop, look for head gaskets leaks and check the front and rear main seals. An oil leak should be obvious, check for stains on the bottom of the block.

    Subaru is covering the gaskets for 8 years, 100k miles, so you'd be covered anyway. But still, check.

    My dad has a 2001 OB Ltd, my wife a 2002 Legacy L. Both have been perfectly reliable so far. Overall I'd say my dad is a bit more satisfied. We prefer our Forester over our Legacy.

    Just my 2 cents' worth.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Go to the Cafe threads, I shared some info about this model there. It will be a real competitor to the Legacy GT IMO. AWD standard, 274hp, 6 speed, HIDs, rear LSD, etc.

    -juice
  • Hi Saw a 1995 Wagon the other day--Looks Perfect.
    Am curious if any of you own one and any comments would be appreciated. I have a 04 XT now and know the step-down to a 2.2 eng. would be a shock.
    But,if I can pick this one up for 4-5K I just might add it as a 2nd Subie ..
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    2.2l is near bullet proof. One of Subaru's most reliable powertrains ever.

    With that age maintenance and condition is everything, so check those out.

    -juice
  • I owned a 99 Legacy Brighton Wagon with the 2.2 litre engine.(same design as the 95 wagons). It was reliable and performed adequately. The 2.2 litre engine was known to be very reliable. I traded it on a 2000 Legacy sedan because I liked the styling and was annoyed that the only way to lock the doors on the Brighton wagon was with the key (you couldn't push the lock button and just slam the door, it would automaticly unlock).
    I barely noticed the difference in performance between the 2.2 in the wagon and the 2.5 in the 00 Sedan.

    - Jim
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    If you hold the door handle would it lock? I thought that's how Japanese cars used to work.

    -juice
  • grahampetersgrahampeters AustraliaPosts: 1,633
    G'day

    Had the clutch replaced in my 99 Outback the other day after 135,000 km (about 85,000 miles).

    A subsequent glitch was the failure of the clutch slave cylinder when it was suddenly asked to actuate the new clutch. Back to the dealer where I had a lengthy chat to the workshop foreman who persuaded me it was bad luck, not their fault.

    Once I indictaed that I knew what I was talking about he got very chatty. The Service Adviser had mentioned that this guy was lead on the Subaru Rally Team cars, all of which were in the workshop at the time, including the Cody Crocker car which was in the dyno booth running hard. This is a fully set up unit with glass wall so clients (and a fair few of the staff) can peer in as the engineer tunes it electronically). Always amusing as the guys tuning WRXs always have that intense mechanical engineer look of real seriousness.

    The converation with the foreman was interesting. He commented that he thought the 99-03 2.5 litre (might be 2000-004 in the USA) SOHC engine was the pick. Apparently whenever they get a 95-98 DOHC engine in, they insist on a head gasket change if not already done. Also mentioned the cost of a broken timing belt, which runs AUD4,000 to AUD8,000.

    Oddest thing about the clutch change i that the removal of the accumulated clutch dust from the bell housing has suddenly made the starter motor very noisy. Gave me a heck of surprise the first few starts as I wondered if it was my car.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • jfljfl Posts: 1,355
    Graham,

    What's the symptom of a failed clutch cylinder? Does the pedal stay down when depressed? Is it intermittent or constant?

    Is it apparent I'm beginning to have a problem here???

    Jim
  • grahampetersgrahampeters AustraliaPosts: 1,633
    G'day

    The symptoms were the clutch sticking half way down and feeling very dead. Onset occurred in heavy traffic. Apparently this is fairly common.

    Once slave cylinder replaced, feel returned to normal and no further problems

    Cheers

    Graham
  • TSB 03-52-03R covers this, MY Legacy 1995-2002.

         Speaking of transmissions, my 2000 Legacy started grinding slightly going into 5th gear and 5th gear only, mainly going uphill. I had drained the MT fluid out and replaced with Mobil 1 recently. Apparently I had overfilled the transmission by about one pint. I had filled it to the full line, but the car was on ramps at the time so on level ground it was too much. Filling it to specs fixed the problem. No metal in the fluid, which is a good sign.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    The other problem is that Mobil 1 is too slippery for Subaru manual transmissions -- it interferes with the synchros (which rely on friction to operate). If the problem resurfaces, you can probably take care of it by switching back to regular old non-syn gear oil.

    A lot of WRX owners switched to Mobil 1 only to find that it was worse. So many people were playing around with various oils, trying to find an optimum. In most cases, I think plain old dino 75W-90 worked out the best (which is what the car came with).

    Craig
  • jfljfl Posts: 1,355
    Redline makes a synchro friendly synthetic gear oil 75w-90NS. It contains less slip agents allowing the synchros to do their job.

    Jim
  • Thanks for the replies, if the problem happens again it's good to know I have other avenues.

         My take on it is, 5th gear is located at the back of the transmission case and going uphill(over a mile, 6% grade)caused an already overfilled transmisssion to flood the syncro blocker rings with more fluid than they could remove before I shifted.

      It causes less stress on an engine to rev than to lug, so I use 4th gear most of the way up the mountain and then shift into 5th a few hundred yards from the summit. That is where the gear clash happened.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I replaced the one on my Miata. I think it failed at about half the mileage of yours, though it was much older (1993 model).

    Symptoms included a wild, varying idle. The pedal was soft and inconsistent, and the clutch fluid (brake fluid) was low.

    It's a pretty simple device, basically a rubber washer in a little metal cylinder. I agree that it could have happened independently of the new clutch. It is self-contained, so I believe that story.

    Good news for me was it was a $10.74 part, and I did the work myself. I used a turkey baster and less than a quart of brake fluid, plus my wife helped.

    Cheap repairs, gotta love 'em!

    -juice
  • No, I tried that trick right away. I asked the Subaru zone rep about it. He was surprised, but offered no solution. (The implication was, It was working as designed.) The same thing occurred with all doors on the Brighton, so I doubt it was a manufacturing defect.
    That is now ancient history. The Brighton model went away after MY2000.

    Jim
  • ebony5ebony5 Posts: 142
    Purchased 4 new Yokohama Aegis LS4'S for my '96 OBW today-Even though my car is white I had the white stripe face in- With $100.OO Subaru Bucks deducted the total came to $247.72($61.93 per tire), this included mounting,balancing,valve stems,tax and disposal of my 4 old Michelin XW4'S. I will keep you posted as to how I like these tires as time and mileage progresses. I am particualy interested in seeing how they handle in the snow and rain this winter. Driving home they were certainly no louder than the Michelins perhaps even quieter -More shall be revealed.
  • My 2001 Outback H4 doesn't have good accelaration. Even Geo Metros are faster than my Subaru.
    Anyone in the forum has problems with the power ?
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Auto trans or manual?? I had a 2000 Outback H4 with 5-spd, and it could hold its own. It was a lot of fun to drive. Autos are a tad slower, and gear changes may be un-cooperative some times.

    What are your symptoms?? Slow in general, or does it seem like the engine has a problem.

    Craig
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    C&D tested a Legacy with that engine, and coupled to a 5 speed it took 8.8 seconds to reach 60. A Geo Metro takes well over 10 seconds, not even in the same league.

    Yours might be down on power. Might be a good time for a tune-up, I'd change the plugs, plug wires, fuel filter, air filter, oil and filter, etc.

    -juice
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