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• It's an all-new vehicle with a complete warranty, plus it's always nice to have a "new" car rather than a used car.
• I think over the long haul, the Subie will be less expensive to own, especially when it comes to repairs and maintenance.
• I think the interior ergonomics with any Japanese car is better than the ergonomics of European cars. I just like the way switches and gauges are, especially the secondary items. The Japanese, by and large just think things out better, IMO.
• I think either one will offer a rewarding driving experience.
• I think the Audi is better looking, but that the Subie is still good looking.
Bob
Well, lucky JD Power doesn't have a checkbox for head gaskets.....
HG were an issue mostly from 99-01, and Subaru covers them with an 8/100 warranty anyway.
Not to mention the head gasket issue *NEVER* affected the EZ30, only the EJ25, a completely unrelated engine.
I don't see how that should affect anyone shopping for a VDC in any way. The H6 engine has been near bullet proof. If anything, the fact that even the common problems you point out did *not* affect the VDC is perhaps the strongest endorsement possible to buy the VDC.
Other common issues:
Wheel bearings on '98-'01 Forester and Impreza (Leg/OB not affected)
Clutch chatter pre '03 (N/A for automatics)
'02 WRX manual tranny gears
None affect the VDC.
Now, shall we list the things that affect Audis? Sludge, ignition coils, electrical gremlines. We don't have enough time for that. :lemon:
-juice
the 3 year survey had more details on engine drivetrain etc but I don't specifically recall headgaskets per se.In fact it wasn't that much more detailed than a consumers report survey.
thanks again for input!
Basically we expect the turbos to come only with the Limited package. In a reversal, the H6 will offer a cloth option on the Outback.
-juice
on top of all of this the new Tribeca which has about a 30K starting price is going to be offered with cloth?? or is their a smaller engine also?
BUT at the same time I am not a car economist either!
so how sure are you guys about it no cloth carrying over both outback and legacy? I understand now that the Legacy and the Outback are completely different cars now right?
how much carry over does subaru usually do with new model year stats out and old model year still being produced?
anybody know how long until concrete stats are out?
thanks
Should really be anytime soon. Subaru apparently has already started production of the 2006 models so somewhere, somplace are the concrete stats. Unfortunately, most dealers often have to be informed by enthusiasts on this forum as well as other owners groups.
Ken
This year they're selling to the tall folks that wants the H6 with cloth.
-juice
I am 6-0, and find that there is more headroom in the 05 Legacy GT Sedan, than my 99 Legacy GT sedan. Rob M.
rob_m. I am 6-3 and I have JUST enough room in a legacy with the limited package. (but plenty without the sunroof) but I am guessing in the mornings and the nice cold winters with more clothes on I am going to be a bit cramped... However, before the redesign it didn't matter what the Legacy was equipped with I wasn't fitting!
Please let me know if you hear anything.
the 3 year survey had more details on engine drivetrain etc but I don't specifically recall headgaskets per se.In fact it wasn't that much more detailed than a consumers report survey.
NP. My post was really tongue-in-cheek. The Cheerleaders point out that not as many of the newer Subarus have had head gasket problems. Of course, they also don't have as many miles on them.
It's a durable engine that has to work hard in this application. I kept my '97, despite having to replace the headgaskets, a wheel bearing, and an axle, all of which were expected because of others posting on Subaru forums.
Out of curiosity, at what mileage did you need to replace the axle? I had to replace both of my fronts - one at 112K and the other at.... well, I replaced it at 144K, but it really went out at 135K and I stubbornly pushed it until I was able to do the engine work simultaneously.
Anyway, I thought the first one went out pretty early, but this is also the first car I have had that has CV joints.
Is this something that other owners have found as well, or is it more likely that my extreme climate (dry, cold) took its toll on the boots?
-Wes-
But even Toyota doesn't offer a manual tranny with a V6, for instance.
You can't win.
-juice
I saw that the Subaru website finally has the Tribeca listed in the model lineup, but it looks like all the other models still have 2005 specs. I'd like to see the '06 (or maybe for '07?!) Legacy lineup have the mahogany red exterior - maybe even with a two tone (my preference, though obviously not real popular since they seem to be going away from it). Other than the atlantic blue, and that one is marginal, I can describe the '05 exterior color options on the Legacies in one word: boring.
I am just going to wait till the 06 specs come out..I should have a couple weeks to make my decision on 05 or 06 when I know 06 specs..
If they get rid of cloth fine but I need to be able to not have a sunroof, that is the major concern.
good thing is that 05s seem like they are pretty sturdy and rattle free, so that is all a plus!
Fred
THanks a lot.
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I prefer to buy tires at either Costco or Discount tires. Based on initial research on tirerack, the following seem reasonable choices and in similar price ballpark. Any experiences or comments on them? or other suggestions?
In increasing price:
Kumho 716 Ecsta HP4
Yokohama Avid V4S
Goodrich Traction T/A
Bridgestone Turanza LS-H
The Goodyear Tripletred appears also to be excellent but is quite a bit higher cost.
Thanks for any thoughts,
Mike
No more worries
-Dave
kens, "Subaru Crew - Future Models II" #16789, 11 Jun 2005 5:08 pm
-juice
Mark
I am assuming since the Legacy GT is stock air to air is probably not as good but probably less likely to break? or leak? (given air to air from what I know is just literally a big heat sink)..
so what do I need to know oh faithful subaru owners about intercoolers?
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo7.htm
I don't know of any other type of cooling mechanism that could take place with an IC other than a water spray. Even then, the water spray is a temporary measure to reduce IC temperatures and not a continuous mechanism. A car is not plumbed to an external water supply so it would be difficult to obtain a true air-water cooling mechanism.
Given that the IC houses compressed air, I'm sure there is always going to be a chance of a leak. However, I would imaging other parts of the turbo housing would more likely be prone to leaking vs. a crack in the IC.
Ken
So that leaves me to the next question? I was checking out the Legacy's intercooler and it looked like it had a few little dents in the intercooler "grill".. is that a big deal.. they seem very fragile.. How much would it take to cause a leak in an intercooler? how easy would it be to tell if there is a leak?
So that leaves me to the next question? I was checking out the Legacy's intercooler and it looked like it had a few little dents in the intercooler "grill".. is that a big deal.. they seem very fragile.. How much would it take to cause a leak in an intercooler? how easy would it be to tell if there is a leak?
thanks- Tiger10
tiger10: Air down the tires a bit and the OB should be great for beach driving.
Ken
but thanks for the info kens!
I'd worry about sharp inclines because of the angles of approach/departure, but other than that the AWD system is certainly capable.
Pic for fun.
-juice
After plugging the unit to your '00, the unit cycled but does not except CDs.
Did you push the "LOAD" button?
-Dave
THANKS AGAIN
Dick Byrd
Ohio
Glad to help stir the memory
-Dave
Well, I'm happy now & hopefully she is also.
Thanks Again,
Dick
Swapped my 6 in-dash for a aftermarket. Sured up everything, packed, taped, and stowed the OEM unit in the closet only to remember then that I forgot to remove all the CDs from the unit.
Out came the box, unpacked, undo the aftermarket install, get the old unit plugged in to get the CDs out and redo everything. :sick:
-Dave