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Let's say you drive 15,000 miles a year and average 24mpg. The difference between regular and premium gas will be less than $200 in my part of the country. I've also seen data suggeting you can possibly get better gas mileage on premium gas in many cases, which offsets or reverses the cost difference.
BTW, I generally get 22-30mpg in my LL Bean on premium gas.
Craig
Good luck, Jim
But, Craig, 30 mpg in a 6 cyl that weighs 3750 lbs.?? Never! You must have a leak in your Bean....the vapors are getting the best of you...
:-)
Ralph
I was surprised too, and figured it was an inaccurate gas pump (in which case I paid for less fuel than I got). But it happened with the very next tank too. It was during a trip we took to Hilton Head SC last May. About 8 hours each way, just cruising at 70mph, no real hills, temps in the low 70s. I regularly get 28mpg on highway trips, so 30 isn't that much of a stretch, especially under those conditions.
Craig
-juice
So 575 gallons per year (26 mpg and 15000miles) @ 1.60 is the same as buying 660 gallons at $1.40 or 22.7mpg.
30mpg for a 6 cylinder? sure. Its called a Buick. My parents LeSabre (3570lbs) get 30+ on the highway often during the summer.
--jay
-mike
:-)
Ralph
salbaby1972 "Subaru Crew - Future Models II" Feb 3, 2004 8:34pm
The 05 models will go on sale in the late spring/early summer timeframe. They look like excellent vehicles.
I have an 02 LL Bean and love it. I chose this over the Acura MDX by the way. The Bean's engine is fantastic, I get great gas mileage, and overall, it's a very smooth and quiet package. I don't recall exact numbers, but I got the car for about $200 over invoice (it's typical to pay close to invoice for most Subarus) which is significantly less than the sticker price. You can check the new car section of Edmunds for sticker and invoice pricing.
The cars come pretty loaded up as is. I think I had spoiler and winter mats as the only options.
If you get an 04, I'm sure you can get an excellent deal. If you get an 05, you'll probably have to wait until the fall before the deals are reasonable.
Craig
Came across a good article on a debate I have seen quite often on these boards. Whether or not to burn regular fuel in a premium fuel engine. Car and Driver recently conducted a scientific test (results are available online for those who are interested) but their conclusion was:
"Cheapskates burning regular in cars designed to run on premium fuel can expect to trim performance by about the same percent they save at the pump. If the car is sufficiently new and sophisticated, it may not suffer any ill effects, but all such skinflints should be ready to switch back to premium at the first sign of knock or other drivability woes."
Kind of what much of the anecdotal research done by our Subie mmebers has suggested all along...
Matt :-)
I've seen street prices down around $26k, check fitzmall.com if you live near the DC area. That's a bargain for AWD, ABS, heated seats/mirrors and wiper de-icers, alloys, 2 moonroofs, leather, etc.
-juice
BTW - I have been driving the mv and switched for today as my wife needed the extra room. Bad move I guess.
Greg
If you were any kind of husband, you would have told your customer that the family was more important, and that you were going to be late! Oh wait, customer? Hey, that's me!!! On second thought, Greg - get your butt in gear and get to work!!
Steve
Greg
-juice
Greg
I haven't missed a powder day yet due to my wife stealing the OB, but it's been touch and go a couple of days. Twice I've had to walk down to the street and drive the MV up to the garage (and once I didn't make it).
Steve, Host
Thanks for the laugh,
Greg
Steve
Chris
http://techinfo.subaru.com/html/index.jsp
Just download what you need.
Hope this helps.
Greg
G
That was it. After reading the manual some more, I found the fix. Thanks. Wife must have hit the Unlock/disarm anmd held for several seconds.
Bridgestone RE-950
Michelin Pilot XGT H4
Michelin MXV4
Continental ContiPremierContact
Continental ContiTouringContact
You might want to go over to tirerack.com and read up on each of them (maybe look at reviews too). I'm sure other folks will chime in. Personally, I'll probably go for the RE-950 tires myself when the time comes.
Craig
Driving in slush (I got them as the snow was melting) they had great sideways grip. (The Potenzas slid all over the place, I might as well have strapped skiis on the car.)
In rain, again the grip is great, especially when cornering. Hydroplaning is also no-more.
I have noticed a slight improvment in fuel economy, however the tires are slightly louder (I emphasize slightly)
I have noticed a touch more wheel spin under acceleration (from a stop around a corner) but it is quickly brought under control by the AWD. However, there is no loss of directional stability (car drifting because of the spin) as the tires have excellent sideways traction.
Go for the V speed rated, they have a stiffer sidewall, and the ride is a little firmer if you like that.
If you like the smaller details, they have a pretty aggressive looking tread that suits the Bean well.
Have fun searching, the web has a lot of good tire information and reviews. (I won't link to the review site as a previous post was removed because there was a forum at that site)
MNSteve
It has been a while since I last posted. I want to sell my 01 OB Limited. What is a realistic value. I tried KBB and Edmunds and they vary a lot. Also, I looked on Bargain News and Autoweb.com and it seems the ones for sale there are much more than what Edmunds suggests. Finally, what sites do you guys recommend to advertise it.
Thanks much.
Thanks. I will look into prices.
MNSteve
I looked in edmunds and the trade-in for an 01 OB Ltd. is 13,400. The private retail is 15,500 or so. However all the ones I see for sale online around this area are asking 18 or 19K. That is a big variance.
Also, I paid 26K and retail is 13K, that means in 3 years the car has devalued to half. Is this reasonable? Mind boggling!
Thanks for opinions
It's all about market prices when you buy and sell. Ideally, you want to buy on the low side and sell on the high side!
Craig
Thanks. Just so you know, 26K is what I paid for the car not the sticker price. I bought the car in CA and we just relocated to CT. I am sure I am losing value there. In any case, where is the best place to advertise. I already know of Bargain news. Anywhere else?
Thanks
Craig
Check my profile for a link to a web site that explains a lot of this stuff.
Also, hop on over to Real-World Trade-In Values adn post a great description, miles, condition (honest condition, not "EXCELLENT" like everyone else), color, location, transmission, service history, miles, tire condition, does it need anything, and esp. MILES.
As far as the market on these things; they bringn all the money, and you mgiht be pleasantly surprised yet.
-Mathias
But where is this real world trade in value page?? I can't seem to find it anywhere. You are the second person to mention it. I always rate my car good. It was excellent when I drove it off the lot. I also read your website. Lots of information. Cool!
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As for the high asking prices - that's what they are: asking prices. It's New England, it's winter, demand for 4wd is high but not that high. In reality, the New England region represents something like 50% of Subaru sales in the US - they are a dime a dozen used.
Even though you paid $26k, they cost a little less today, so that's a factor. Today you could get an H6 LL Bean for that much, with incentives.
And while it may not seem old to you, the 2005s will be here in May or June, so by then it'll seem 4 years old even if it isn't. Let's say it's 3 years old, though.
My rule of thumb is you lose 10% driving off the lot, then 10% every year after that. So it's $26k brand new, $23,400 with 1 mile driven, $21,060 after 1 year, $18,954 after 2 years, $17,058 after 3 years, etc.
IMO, if you can get $17k or more, resale was good. Some cars do slightly better, some cars do a *lot* worse.
So I think resale is pretty decent, just sell before the 2005s arrive, it'll seem older then.
Boa sorte amigo. What did you replace it with?
-juice
I would find the cheapest part and then do it myself. Can't be that hard. Just get the torque specifications.
-juice
Bought Goodyear Eagle GT-HRs - same size as OEM tires. They're a fairly new product, but had good surveys and ratings at TireRack, so I'll let you know how they work out. Next year I'll swap shoes on my '97 Maxima (still have the original tires - only 27K on the car - which is garaged most of the time), and may well go for the HRs if I like them after a year's driving. The original Eagle GT-RSAs on the Max have always been a bit skittish on our hilly Seattle streets - especially with only FWD, persistent rain and slop, and a frisky V6. An H speed rating is more than enough for me.
More to follow...
Ken in (sunny - finally) Seattle
I am pushing the Wilderness tires at about 42k right now..hoping to reach 50k before replacing. They are really bad in snow but just enough tread to get around NH winters. I really should replace them soon though...
So, I see that everyone recommends staying with Size:225/60-16 with the V-Rating?