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Conversion Van Pricing

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  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Posts: 2,240
    Anyone know anything about this company? Having seen the prices on the new Yukon, I am considering a custom van with the towing goodies and this is one of the companies the nearby dealer reps. They also rep Legacy which I believe is a spinoff from Regency. Any information would be greatly appreciated. We are looking at the GranSport SUV (as in Sport Utility Van) conversion. They show it on their website at www.sherrodvansfla.com.

    Thanks,

    Jim
  • I have a 1996 Ford E-150 Conversion Van with the Explorer Limited kit. The van has every available option, 2 tvs, 2 vcrs, 2 stereos, 2 nintendos, electric captain chairs, heated seats, cb, radar detector, leather interior, etc. The van has 110,000 miles. How do I value the vehicle as far as trade in value?
  • jboaterjboater Posts: 199
    fordpeople,
    NADA has no listing for your conversion.
    The E150 Cargo whsle. 11,700. retail 14,075. subtract 3,050. for hi miles.
    Compare chassis value with numbers posted by Edmund's.

    Jerry
  • Sherrod is commonly carried by many dealers in Georgia and I expect other parts of the southeast or eastern US. I can't comment on their quality or reputation but if it helps, I never heard any thing negative about them when I was shopping for vans last year.
  • I need to know what to expect from an other guy's Insurance company, on an 1990 astro van, high top conversion van teria package, color tv. good shape van. with 168000 mi on it. I had just put $1300.in front end and tires. I know the tires have flat spots in them, The car is still drivable. I want my car back, I have owned it since it was new!! I liked my van, that was the last year you could get swivel middle seats. I liked being able to turn them around an make a bed. The Ins. Co. has paid for a rental car foe 3 weeks saying the can not find a dealer that can price one to them. I don't mind swiching rental cars till 2020 but. If I have to take the money, how much do I have to settel for? A small note to BR549ers@aol. com would help, Thank you, Dan
  • Where would I go to price a used conversion van? ON THE NET everyone else wants to sell me another one. I just want to know what one's worth.And just, maybe, what the law has to say about what your rights and Ins. Co. I am new to typing and computers, so any where's from anyone could help. Thank anyone how answer's, br549ers@aol.com
  • jboaterjboater Posts: 199
    br549ers,
    I don't have value on Tiara for 1990 nor the Astro. Click on the link below or copy it into your browser and it will take you to Edmund's value section for the Astro. I would select the model that most closely matches your van. I also don't know of any internet site that has conversion values.

    http://www.edmunds.com/used/1990/chevrolet/

    Jerry
  • Looking at a 97 Dodge Grand Caravan SE with a Sterling Conversion (TV, VCR, earphones, etc.). Anyone know anything about Sterling conversions? Also, any ideas on price?

    46K miles, tinted glass, 3.3L, CD, keyless entry, alarm, locks, windows, etc.

    Dealer asking $16,775 (says he has $18k into it and sending to auction Monday).

    Does this sound like a good deal? Need reply asap...

    Thanks in advance.
  • jboaterjboater Posts: 199
    lkantrov2,
    No info on the Sterling conversion.
    NADA indicates following on an OEM 97 Grand Car SE
    whsle. 13900. retail 16400.
    miles -100. -100.

    Jerry
  • Hello,

    I am a 4 time van owner. I started with a cheaper van Mark lll then to the next level a Glaval then to the next Regency and then found Explorer. I talked to the rep and even toured the factory. I looked at 15 different van companies before I chose Explorer. Yes, the price was a little more but the fit and finish is without a doubt the best of the lot. After owning my other 3 vans they started to squeek THAT DRIVES ME NUTS! I have owned this van for 13 months and 18,000 miles and it's just as tight as the day I bought it. If you are considering a van buy an Explorer. I have talked to many Explorer owners and they feel the same way I do.

    This machine is simply 5 star. You can look as I did but you wont find anything nicer.

    Sincerely,

    Gary
  • dfarr1dfarr1 Posts: 1
    I'm looking at a brand new '99 Ford E-150 with a Mark III LE conversion package. Here's what I know about it.

    Suggested Retail on the package $39,858

    Dealer invoice on van $21,131
    Mark III conversion pkg $8,739
    Total Invoice $29,870

    I am trading in a '93 E-150 with a Glaval Universal package, good shape, 105,000 miles. I've been offered a deal of invoice -$8,870 tradein. This deal would include the $2000 rebate so basically I'm getting $6,870 for my trade. Do dealers get any holdback from conversion packages? I believe the Ford holdback on the van is 3%. Does this look like a decent deal? Thanks for the info.
    Dale
  • where can i find the value of the conversion pkge
  • jboaterjboater Posts: 199
    corvettes,
    No info on '95 Glaval. Info is available on '95 Auto Form, '95 Gladiator, '95 Prime Time, and '95 Universal. All are mfg. by Glaval.

    Jerry
  • chiefschiefs Posts: 5
    I HAVE FOUND A WALDOCH ELAN CONVERSION VAN WITH 28,000 MILES ON IT...AND WAS JUST WONDERING IF ANYONE HAD A VALUE FOR IT
    THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP
  • chiefschiefs Posts: 5
    SORRY FORGOT TO PUT THE YEAR...ITS A 1998
  • jboaterjboater Posts: 199
    chiefs,

    '98 Elan New MSRP 6,070. used whsle 2,640. retail 3,710.
    '98 Cargo van whsle 13,725. retail 16,250.

    Jerry
  • seb4seb4 Posts: 2
    I have a 1999 Dodge Ram 1500 van with a Glaval Primetime hightop conversion (bought converted from the dealer), fully loaded with 26,600 miles. I recently had a change in marital ststus and am downsizing. I'm trying to find the fair market value on it for a buyer to get to her Credit Union. They can't seem to figure out how much to loan the buyer, since they don't know the value of the conversion. Does anyone have info on getting the market value of this van? Also, if anyone is interested, it is still up for sale.
  • jboaterjboater Posts: 199
    seb4,
    I replied to your e-mail.

    Jerry
  • Jerry, thanks for your continued support :)

    Guitarzan
    Community Leader/Vans Conference
  • We have a 1995 GMC full-size van, Explorer pkg, which we wish to sell or trade in, but need help in determining its value; can't find anything on the net. Bought new in '96, has 50,000 mi., white w/white bumpers, charcoal interior, a/c & heat--front & rear, full leather seats (4 captain, power rear sofa), power driver seat, two-tone interior wood trim sealed in acrylic (beautiful), front radio--am/fm/cd, rear radio--cassette, earphone outlets in rear, Nintendo hookup,TV w/VCR in wood cabinet (w/"roll-top door") between front seats, power mirrors, PS, PB, ABS, power antenna, fog lights, alarm, built in CB. Any ideas on price for the Midwest? Thanks
  • jboaterjboater Posts: 199
    bzj39,

    No values are available from NADA on the Explorer. However, in checking Coachmen, Quality Coaches, Starcraft, and Regency, I find that their 1995 model wholesale values are 30-33% and retail values are 40-43% of original MSRP.
    You might consider calling Explorer for the original MSRP and then apply the % values I've listed in order to determine approximate values. You can also use Edmund's for cargo van values.

    Jerry
  • Thanks for the info, Jerry. In case anyone's interested, the'95 van, 50,000 miles, is still available.

    bzj239
  • I have'nt purchased a car since 1984 and as a single mom feel like I need another opinion on the conversion van that the dealer let me use overnight to try out. Need to decide by 5 p.m. tomorrow and beleive them that someone else will go for this van if I hesitate. Any thoughts on this deal, PLEASE pass them on! It's a 95 Chevrolet Sport Van 20 Inc with @ 37,000 miles. Checked on carfax and the history is only there since 1998 and seems OK. Lasat owner an older man who seemed great w/ oil checks by all the door stickers anyway! Car body excellent, inside clean & low wear. No TV, and I haven't figured out if there's rear heat yet. On Edmunds I priced it out to be @ $13,000. Dealer today asking $15,840...no warranties or anything. The conversion seems to be "Tradewinds" (lots of teal upholstery) but in all the posts no one mentioned this company. (I'm in Seattle.) Does this van sound reasonable? What would you offer him? Would you get the $2000 extended warranty on such a low mileage van? I'm learning alot here tonight; but, would really appreciate any feedback on any of this! I feel quite naive. THANKS SO MUCH, Marianne
  • jboaterjboater Posts: 199
    Marianne,
    I don't know what if any decision you've made. However, as mentioned in #25, I sold a '95 Chevy/Tiara 2 years ago for $13,000.
    I drove it for 2 years and have determined that the '97 Ford/Coachmen that replaced it, is a significantly better van. In fact, I recently decided to continue to drive this one rather than buy a new one.
    The $2,000. for the extended warranty sounds like a lot of money. Is it a $-0- deductible, bumper to bumper, 70,000 mile warranty or ?.
    How does this van stack up with other vans for sale in you area?

    Good luck,
    Jerry
  • Thanks for the reply!! I went ahead and purchased the 95 Chevy "Tradewinds" pkg ($15,500)because of the low mileage (37,000)and impeccable shape. I felt SO much better informed going back to the dealer after using Edmunds info. He verbally trashed the Edmunds site; but, I can see that it's probably because his life is more complicated now. I really appreciated the education on my van specifically and on the process in general. I've decided to skip his $1,900 4 yr-48,000 warranty ($250 ded)though...I see lots of positives to taking it, mainly peace of mind and being able to go directly to dealer for repairs or complaints rather than an on-line warranty like Warranty Gold, (which is still a possible option for me.) But, I'm thinking with a Chevy with so low miles, if I put down the $1000 or so every 2 years for the major maintenance required to keep warranty good, then the chances are slim (I HOPE!!!) that I won't need $1900(+ deductible & possible stress dealing with these companies) worth of repairs within 48,000 miles. Is this sound reasoning?? It's all a bit scary to me; but, I love this van already and think conversions are great for ferry commuting, which is how we live here in the Pacific Northwest. Thanks for being there, Marianne
  • jboaterjboater Posts: 199
    Marianne,
    Congrads. The one I had, I drove for 43,000 miles and mechanically only had routine maintainence issues, i.e. new brakes, tires, oil changes, etc.
    My complaints had to do with the door hinges being a pain to keep clean and fit of the doors that contributed to wind and road noise. If any of the doors start to become stiff or difficult to open or close, it probably will be due to dirt in the hinges around the hinge pin area that is constantly exposed to elements. High pressure water spray such as at a self serve car wash will work to clean them. Go a little easy with the spray unit though, too close may take off the paint. A silicone spray lubricant worked as well as anything I tried.

    Jerry
  • jboaterjboater Posts: 199
    P.S.
    An extended warranty is effectively an insurance policy. I think it is important that one be reasonably assured that the underwriting organization will be in business and able to pay a claim should the occassion arise.
  • I'm looking to purchase a new 99" or 2000 Ford conversion van. I currently have a 94 Universal conversion with which I have been very happy with.It seems that there are so many conversion companies out there, can anyone suggest a quality conversion equal to or greater than a Universal. Also where can I find trade-in value for my current van which is a Universal Value Series with 65,000 miles ? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  • Friends,

    I have spent a very interesting evening looking over the conversion van discussions here. I wish I would have seen this long ago when I was looking for information. Let me share some thoughts, then ask a question or two.

    First, I have a '95 Taurus wagon which is bleeding money at this point, with 125 K, and the dreaded Ford 3.8L engine. The last mechanic to look at it said, "my advice is trade it". After long discussions with the family, we decided to look into vans.

    I live in SE Ohio, and have traveled to at least 20 dealers looking for vans. What I saw amazed me, I saw vans that blew me away with the stuff in them, and killed my soul with the price. Used vans with low miles are hard to come by, and since we are tired of pouring $$ into repairs, we looked for low miles stuff.

    After talking with many dealers and others, several conclusions came to mind:

    1. Buy Used. One dealer told me point blank, "the moment you drive a new van off the lot, you lose about the value of the conversion, on the van." That makes sense to me, though any dealer will "blow smoke at certain times." But new vans in my area were way overpriced for what you got, and the dealers were not really wanting to move much off their prices, even for '99 models. They say they want to get old models off the lot, but they won't really give you a good price.

    I think that a used conversion loses value "more slowly" over time, at least from my reseach. Are conversions like cars in this? My guess is yes, only worse.

    2. Get a well known "name" conversion. Find web sites posted on this thread, and look real hard at them. I saw some really lousy conversions, some from name companies, but where I went, Glaval, Starcraft, Choo-Choo, and top shelf companies were consistently better than lesser name groups, or custom shops. I was really surprised how so many dealers did not like Mark III! They said they were not of high quality. Again they might be blowing smoke, but I was not impressed by a lot of Mark III conversions.

    3. In used lots I saw a lot of Ford Conversions, not many Chevys, and few Dodges. I found almost no minivan conversions other than Chevy Astros/GMC Safaris, which some places in townhall say the Astro is more like a truck than minivan/car types.
    So many places rated vans/conversions in quality as 1. Chevy, 2. Ford, 3. Dodge. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, many people said Fords were safer, GMC/Chevy were more common, and even at Dodge dealers, finding a conversion was hard. At one van dealer with a recent Internet posting, since all search engines would have them in the top 10 on their list of hits, he had one Dodge, and even with lots of extras, it wasn't up to the quality of GM/Ford conversions.

    I'm not sure what to read from that last paragraph, but after driving Ford and Chevy products, my personal preference would be for F-150, or Chevy 1500 base, though we may get an Astro since my wife does not like big vans.

    4. Get the most bells and whistles you can: This might seem counter to what I sad before, but if we are serious about a conversion, get a top of the line model with all the power stuff and extras you can put in. The investment is such in a conversion that base models don't seem to have the value and quality upgraded ones have. Also, get a power rear seat to fold down into a bed. The van we may get is not a power fold down seat to bed, and it seems real inconvenient to manually adjust it.

    5. Get ready for no manuals. In my experience, even with new conversions there was little in the way of documentation. How does something work? where is a wiring diagram? Who knows? In fact for the van I might buy, I am trying to contact the conversion company for some instruction on how things work in the van. This is rather frustrating, even with the low quality of owner's manuals in general, which seem to spend more time on wearing seat belts, not drinking, etc., instead of how the car works.

    Lastly, don't set yourself up for buyer's remorse. As so many posts have revealed, trying to set a value for a conversion is almost impossible. If you buy the van, get the lowest price you can, then don't look back. This part of shopping is different than buying a new car, it is a whole different animal, and new price guides, or used car price guides do no good, other than finding a value for the base van. Get what you want at a comfortable price for you, and never think about it again. You will never know for certain if you squeezed the last dime out of the seller you could.

    Wow, that's a lot of stuff, and yes, it is my very humble opinion. I am no wizard when it comes to this stuff, but I hope my experience of 6 weeks on the web, newspapers, and dealer lots can help someone else.

    Now, my question for the good man with access to the NADA price guides: Could you give me a value for a Starcraft Imperial Hitop Conversion on an Astro Chassis? It is an 97 conversion, with a low 18,800 miles on it (which means I may have about 9 months of warranty service left!)

    Thanks for your time and help, and if I am wrong about stuff I wrote, please let me know.

    Sincerely,

    John Kay
    jkumpire@netpluscom.com
  • jboaterjboater Posts: 199
    mickey59,

    NADA book values;
    '94 Ford cargo whsle. 7,900. retail 9,900. (compare with Edmund's)
    Universal whsle 1,900. retail 2,500.
    Total = whsle. 9,800. retail 12,400.

    Jerry
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