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LE Sport Top whsle 3,020 retail 4,190
SE Sport Top " 2,320 " 3,210
LX Sport Top " 4,690 " 6,490
Check Edmund's for chassis value.
Designer whsle 2,980. retail 3,790.
Halfback 2,090. 2,630.
Value 1,880. 2,390.
Jerry
Thanks for all the great information
dhersh
First, I am a VERY happy owner of a 1990 GMC Explorer conversion. 185,000 pretty good miles. Some maintenance, but nothing really unusual for a van this old. No real value as a trade, so I might give it to someone who justs needs to putter around town. I'm not sure I would take it on a coast to coast trip, as we have done several times in the past! Everything still works and we have certainly received all the value we paid for.
Now we are in the market for a fully loaded Explorer 2000 GM or GMC high top. V-8, leather, bells and whistles. Yes, a used van could probably save us a lot of money, but we tend to keep our vehicles for a long time, so we would like to start out new.
I have seen list prices for a fully loaded van in the St. Louis area from mid 40's to low 50's depending upon the particular conversion.
On a car it is SO EASY to figure out a fair price. On vans, picking winning lottery numbers might be easier.
Is there a decent percentage of sticker that you can figure on the van and the conversion part to get to dealer cost? Once I establish that, I can figure out what kind of offer I want to make. Any help pricing this fully loaded van would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Jerry
Thanks- Curt Peterson
Jerry
for '99 the following are the possible models;
GT400 or 401
HT400 or 401
SE300 or 301
SL400 or 401
The SE is low-end and the GT is the high-end.
The '97 Heritage
Orig MSRP 10,150. used whsle 3,530. retail 4,890.
I recommend Edmund's cargo values for chassis.
Jerry
Pricing for 2000 Mark III not available.
Most expensive 1999 as follows;
Ford LX Sport Top MSRP 11,999. whsle 6,370. retail 8,530.
GMC Savanna Sport Top MSRP 12,149. whsle 6,440. retail 8,640.
No info is available for Explorer.
Jerry
Midwest Vans 2 most expensive (msrp) models are the M-1100 SR @ 6,100. and the M-1200 SR @ 7,210.
Majestic Vans top-end is the LLT @ 8,119.
A&J Vans 6,495.
Jerry
Some other 97's have wholesale range of 40 - 43% and retail of 53 - 58% of original msrp.
Jerry
The '98 you looked at might be a good choice if the price is decent. I would guess in the range of 15k to 18k unless it's super loaded, top of the line conversion. Then you might get as high as 22k-23k.
Mine has the 4.6L V8 and averages about 15 mpg in my daily driving. That's an even mix of city/xway driving.
Using a couple of others, I compute wholesale at about 40% and retail at about 55% of original msrp. Ad that to Edmund's value for cargo van to get an approximation.
Might also want to review local classifieds for asking prices on simlar vans.
Thanks
I really like the '97 Ford I'm driving. 45k trouble free miles. 4.6L V8.
I don't have any experience with the redesigned GM vans or Dodge.
I think you will find a lot of helpful info on this topic site. Be sure to review the posts.
AC, PS, PW, PDoors, cassette player, roof rack, keyless entry
I would like to know the retail and trade in value.
Thanks
conversion...conversion was done in april 97 and
unit vbought in may by me...fully loaded, biggest
v8 made 5.8..lowtop, 27k miles.. premiunm sound
packagecd/tv/vcr/front-rear air/towing/special
suspension and oversized trans/crown coach
conversion.their top of the line package.., cloth interior,alloy wheels,.not a scratch/non smoke/still has new..has premium sound package,cd,disc changer, am/fm/cassette,tilt steering, p/w,p/l,remote keyless entry,alarm, on and on...fully loaded..everything except power seats...rear seat is a fold down 3 pc bed..
car smell/garage kept/new brakes at 25k, fully
warranteed up to 100k or 6 years from date of
sale...what is the fair market value?? this was
the
top of the line conversion package that crown
offered...carpets have been protected by carpet
plastic since day one...any suggestions on how to
price this fairly???
Crown Custom Coach, Rosemont, IL no info available after 1995. The '95 Stratford model had msrp of 13,995. used whsle 4,320. reatil 5,760. Add these values to cargo values at Edmund's.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
My best guess is the conversion whsle/retail value is probably in a range of 12% to 20% of the original msrp.
Chassis value can be estimated from the '90 model on Edmund's.
Also, check local classifieds for similar vans.
I don't know about Sportsmobile pricing.
It has a Triton v8 in it (not sure as to the 4.6 or 5.4). I think that was the first year for the tritons in vans. Are there any serious inherent problems with either of these motors especially for that year? SHould I refer to the cargo van retail price or the trade- in price and then add an estimated conversion package cost to that? Thank you.
zz
Some would say there is no such thing as a good handling van. I live in suburban Detroit and have no objection to driving my van in the winter. Tires are very important. Be sure to use good 1) mud and snow rated or 2) all season tires. I recently replaced original equipped Goodyear tires with Michelin LTX M/S. Haven't used them in snow yet but otherwise I am pleased with them.
ZZZ999
My '97 Ford has the 4.6L V8 now with 47k miles. It has been a good runner and I've had no problem with it.
The '99 Starcraft GT201 (top of line) has a wholesale of 50% and retail of 67% of original msrp.
You might try applying these % to your original msrp and add to the cargo van values found @ Edmund's.
Jerry
This guy 'Jerry' seems to be "Da man".
So, Jerry, can you please help me out. I'm thinking about selling my 1997 GMC Explorer Limited - 5.7L V8 - 40,000 miles - very clean. The van itself listed for 22,907 and the conversion listed for 13,442 for a total of 36,349. Any help would be much appreciated.
Lulu71:
There are 5 Starcraft models. Can you tell me which model you're looking at? It should be GLxxx or GSxxx or GTxxx or Heritage.
lukeb:
For what it's worth, the '95 Starcraft GX310 conversion found on the Caravan, has a book wholesale of 430. and a retail of 580.
I have no factual idea regarding the rarity of conversions. Seems to me, the buying public does not have a very strong interest in them. Hence, many dealers no longer stock conversion vans.
bronsta:
Unfortunately, Explorer is one of those companies who choose to withhold pricing info from the publisher of NADA.
Perhaps as a point of reference the following will be of some help;
'97 Coachmen wholesale 38%, retail 53% of original msrp.
'97 Starcraft wholesale 38%, retail 53% of original msrp.
'97 Luxury Conversions = 37% and 51%
Jerry
Thanks
I am looking for a ford or chevy conversion, upper end (leather etc.) hitop van. A 1997 - 2000. Ready to buy today. Please e-mail me at delyn@softcom.net.
Thanks
NADA 97' Cargo van whsle 11,125. retail 13,475.
Totals whsle 14,575. retail 18,265.
Blue & Tan exterior, Tan/Taupe cloth interior. 50,000 miles. 4.6L V8, very well equipped and a very nice one owner van. Only 12k miles on the Michelins.
$15,900. location, northern suburb of Detroit.
e-mail, jboater@hotmail.com
KarenS
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Jerry