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You need to look at the new car section of edmunds to calculate their real cost. Basically add up base price, shipping, and all your options. Then deduct holdback (I don't think Vw has any). Also check edmunds rebate pages. This will tell you how much the vehicle costs. You should be able to drive it off for $500 more.
Good luck. Post the accessories if you need help coming up witht the price.
http://www.edmunds.com/edweb/Incentives.html
So the math goes like this
Dealer price $29722
+ $590
- Incentive -3000
- Holdback -626 (2% of the Base MSRP)
Equals 26686
You should be able to get the car for 350-500 over this...
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KarenS
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Our second realization was that the rear facing captain chairs only have lap belts. The seat closest to the sliding door sure appears to be a real danger. The table was a little disappointing too. We thought it would be great for the kids to play games on during long trips.
If you start a trip with the table down, the person sitting in the captain chair would have to unbuckle, get up, fold his seat up to raise the table.
All in all, the design could have been great. Instead it seemed so poorly planned, it really shook my faith in Volkwagon. What else didn't they plan well? I've driven VW's for the past 30 years, since my first Beetle at 16. It seems the price keeps going up, and the quality is dropping. It seems the company is getting away with alot, riding on the loyalty for the VW lovers. This one is wising up! Going to check out the Honda Odessy tomorrow.
VW is slow to change.
VW sold 3,395 EuroVans in the United States, up from 1,742 during 1998. The automaker sold 2,535 EuroVans through October of this year.
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About 66 per state. No wonder hard to get parts.
My question is, can a rack be installed on the pop-top? I need a way to transport my 17' canoe; my family has outgrown my Toyota pickup.
Also, I read on the VW.com's news releases that the 2001 Eurovan will have a 200 hp V6, should I wait for the extra 60 ponies?
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Steve
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My 1991 Astro CL with 4.3L V6, Air conditioning, Heater that had warm air, POWERFUL engine, etc. got better gas mileage than did the lethargic 71 or slightly-less lethargic 1977. Our 1999 Grand Caravan SE is light years superior to any Volkswagen. I hope Volkswagen goes bankrupt.
As for your comment about VW going bankrupt, be careful. I wouldn't want to have to remove any flames from you or others about this as it can quickly get out of hand...FWIW though, it won't happen anytime soon. Don't forget that VW bought Rolls Royce and Bentley just a short while ago...they already own Audi, Seat, and are working with Porsche. When their new SUV (developed with Porsche) the VW Colorado debuts in just a short while, it will almost definitely be a huge hit.
Good luck,
Drew
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I wouldn't have considered the Eurovan because of the price but the price reductions on the 2001 models coupled with the new 201 hp VR6 makes me want to take a second look. Somequestions for those that own the vehicle...
Are the newer models more reliable?
carry a 4x8 building material in a pinch?
how's the luggage space with all 7 passangers?
handling and driveability? Does it drive big? My wife is a little nervous about big vehicles.
safety? economy?
Thanks for any help...
I looked at Edmunds prices and they show a substantial price cut (about $5K) as you indicate, however, the VW website lists the higher prices. Why would they cut prices and not tell anyone?
I kind of like the VW van. It is large inside, bigger than most minivan, has good towing ability, and I like the MV option.
I wonder why their drivetrain warranty for that vehicle is half that of their other vehicles.
Maybe because it would cost them a fortune to extend the warranty?
(Understand I bleed VW. Owned more than I care to admit. Been treated poorly by every last one.)
It was a really nice roomy van - bigger than "mini" but smaller than "cargo." LOTS of cargo room and leg room for 7 passengers.
Can't test drive at the Autoshow, so I can't answer any other questions.
http://www.busdepot.com
also go to http://vanagon.com and look for the eurovan mailing list. send those folks your question. you may need to subscribe. they will know if anyone does
Well..... there is another option. Buy a clean, low mileage later-model Vanagon (there are tons of them out there due to the head gasket problem), and hook it up to a Subaru engine. Quite a few folks have done this.
See
http://www.mcn.org/b/roadcow/convert.html
http://www.cycoactive.com/urabus/
I currently have a watercooled vanagon and I doubt it will tow more than a thousand to maybe two thousand. Again, the owner's manual does not say it's rated to tow at all.
If towing is your thing, then the vanagon isn't.
Good idea? What is their reputation?
Has anyone looked at these two vehicles compared to one another?
Bottom line: I thing you are getting a gret deal and you will love the car!
Steve
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My experience so far is that the dealer network is so unfamiliar with this product (EV's in general) that any questions regarding anything out of the ordinary (or even "ordinary" questions) are met with either blank stares or mis-information ("Does it come with mats? Can a towing package be installed?"). All sorts of EV owners meet in yahooGroups "ev-update" and they could probably answer questions better than the dealers.
Just my 2cents.
same out here on the west coast - different answer from each person you speak to. WV should try to communicate with one voice to it's dealer base, and put the burden on them to be informed, so THEY can properly inform those of us with the checkbooks. I don't even know what invoice' IS on this product. $31,900? more? less? Is invoice different form 'msr'?
Ours is "probably on a boat already" is the best we are being told.... but I doubt it.
Last year we rented a VW sharan in Europe. The van was truly wonderful. It has seating for 7 and the great 1.8 T engine. This fits our needs perfectly.
Why does VW not sell this car in the US?
A VW new MicroBus 4-motion would be very kewl. :-)
Drew
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