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2013 and earlier Volkswagen Passat Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    You have to determine the source of the miles...
    If the car came from just 40 miles away; where
    did the other 450 or so come from? Was this a
    "roll back"? Lots of questions...PS
  • any thoughts on the better value here. I have noticed that volkswagons are soft on resale, and previous generation passats (1995 models) had tranny problems at 50k miles. anybody out there who has driven both??
  • I'm about to bite on a 2001 Passat GLX, auto, invoiced at $27400. I can get it for $28,300, so we're close, but I'd like some feedback just for my peace of mind. Should I be able to get it for less. There are not that many dealers close to where I live. Should I be concerned about buying from one dealer and having it serviced by another? If so, should I pay more from a dealer near me?
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    I would charge $1000 over...Take the dealer to
    lunch with $100...and enjoy your GREAT new car
    and your new relationship with your local dealer...PS
  • Thanks for response. I spent a wonderful few days last summer in Pacific Grove at the Green Gables Inn. I should return, buy a Passat from you and drive it back to Ky.
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    You were right down the street from our house...
    If that is what you want to do, I will pick you up
    at the Monterey Airport and make reservations for you at the Green Gables...and we can do dinner at
    Fandango...
  • japan1japan1 Posts: 1
    I'm a military member stationed overseas and I will be moving back to the states in the very near future. Upon my return, I will be searching the market for a new car. I would like to purchase a 2001 Passat GLX. Can some shed some light on what I should pay for this vehicle. In addition, I would like to know if the Honda Accord EX-V6 competes well with the GLX Passat. I will be making the purchase in Atlanta Ga. Please provide as much information as possible. Thanks
  • Danny,

    If you haven't done so yet, you should read Edmunds' Comparo of Mid-sized Family Sedans. Both are excellent cars, with the top of the line Passat offering a few more features and better driving experience than the Honda EX-V6. The advantage of the Honda is its legendary reliability.

    As for how much can you get a Passat for, that depends on the supply and demand. The great reviews of the Passat have certainly increased the demand and hence, reduced some of the buyer's leverage for the car. You may want to throw out some request thru Autobuytel, Carpoint, Stoneage and see what these services are offering. I got our wagon thru the latter via a dealership in Huntsville for $1100 over the invoice.

    George
  • busanbusan Posts: 12
    Are the invoice prices the true dealer cost for the car? Or is there also a little fat in there? Additionally, were there any dealer incentives recently which prompted my below invoice purchase? It was a 2000 model Passat V6 4Motion Automatic. I suppose they were motivated to sell the 2000's but just wanted to know if in fact I got a good deal or was just an unaware customer. Picked it up for $24K, which was $1K under invoice price.
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    Was this a *One Pay* or did you finance this deal?
    If you financed the car, what was the rate?
  • busanbusan Posts: 12
    It was a one pay....basically financed it independent from dealer.
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    Hard cost on this car...no roof/wheels/leather/monsoon/cw pkg. is $25083.USD
    There was a dealer incentive of $1000 or special
    financing for the customer as low as 3.5% to 6.25%.
    If you got that car at that price, they are ready to go belly up and you should consider yourself
    blessed that you got such a great deal.
    Frankly...I do not believe you.
  • busanbusan Posts: 12
    good that you do not believe me. Makes me believe I did get a good deal. I do not have the moonroof nor the leather. It was a GLS not a GLX. Perhaps that matters as well. Don't know. Just glad I was able to get it for that then.

    Thanks for the confirmation!
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    Oneupmanship...no 4Motion without the above built
    to the best of my knowledge...
  • busanbusan Posts: 12
    your statement. It has the 4motion decal on the back so I assumed that it's there. Please don't tell me that it's not and I just paid for something that I didn't get
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    Do you have a FAX? If you do I will send you the
    order guide...This 4MO is at the top of Passat
    line...you have read how hard it is to find a
    leather car without sunroof/alloy wheels...do you
    have any idea how hard it would be to find a V6
    4Motion without these???
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    By the way I have what you want, but better en
    route from Emden right now...
  • What do you mean that there is a better one en route. I thought the only option that I didn't have on the one I ordered was 4Motion. Not interested in getting 4Motion. When do you anticipate it's arrival?
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    Much rarer Silver/Grey due 10/30 Port of San Diego, VIN: WVWJH63B61E036051...On the ground in
    Monterey mid-November...
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    email me for any additional...no more posts here
  • ffxvwffxvw Posts: 93
    Do you have much success with the rigid price structure you described? I'm a new ISM here in No. VA, and my experience so far has not pointed to this kind of structured arrangement.

    Jason
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    This is a subject of great debate, as you can well
    imagine. And I think you have to get together with
    your Dealer Principal, GM, or whoever it is at your store that can assist you in formulating an
    *on-line marketing plan* that you are all comfortable with.
    I follow to the letter what I have written in my
    mission statement. It is my firm belief that if a
    customer has done their *homework* and *research*
    they are totally aware of all the numbers in a
    broad sense (they is a fair amount of misinformation out there), but by and large they
    have a good idea of what a car costs a dealer.
    The prices that I have posted for each car I belive are not only fair, but by and large, really
    aggressive. They reflect Edmund's *TMV* and also
    take into consideration availablity...Silver, Auto
    Trans. (still not abundant), GLX, etc.
    Another component is your market...are you in a
    major metro area or a smaller store in a suburban
    area? If the majority of the Dealers around you
    have ADM and you don't; let people know that, if
    your Service dept. is open on Saturday and most of your competition is not; let people know that.
    But this is the bottom line...I believe that
    if a customer does not find value in your product, or that you are trying to give them a
    truly painless, hassle free experience; it doesn't matter what you do. All you have to do is
    read the posts here to realize that some folks,
    although they may claim otherwise, want to play the game...the ole back & forth in an attempt to
    claim victory over the Dealer. I have sales people to take care of these folks, and sales mgrs. to help them realize their dream of winning...90%-100% of my customers have their
    financing arranged through their own bank or credit union or are paying cash; so there is no
    second guessing about rate, but if VCI is offering a better one, I offer it. I really believe In VW Masterguard Warranties, especially
    if my customer is planning on keeping the car for 5, 6, years or longer, and I will make sure that
    they understand that it is a REAL warranty as opposed to the vapor that some dealers offer.
    You have to keep in mind that 70+% of your customers have been on the net looking up info
    on our cars...you need to know more than they do,
    so make sure you know your Product Source Book
    inside/out.
    I am off to Volkswagen of Mexico tomorrow morning,
    and I'll fill you in on anything new when I get back.

    I would be interested in finding out exactly what your experience with online pricing has been, and
    why you feel that structure doesn't work for you.
  • I expect my local dealer in Tennessee to laugh at
    my offer tomorrow based on the collective wisdom I
    garnered from reading LOTS of posts about Passats in Edmunds. But I'll still make it all the
    same and we'll see. I'd be willing to drive a
    state or two away to purchase a GLX with 4M and
    Tiptronic for the kind of reasonable over invoice
    prices mentioned in many of the posts.

    I bought (and likely overpaid) for an A6 4.2
    several months ago at this local dealer but fully
    expect him to turn his nose up at the cash deal
    I'll offer tomorrow. Based on what I've read,
    $1000 over invoice should be plenty to get this
    deal done but he's asking for more than $3000 over
    invoice. $30000 plus tax should be more than
    enough to get this car, no??

    I know how to walk away - but where to? Anybody
    know a dealer a little hungrier within a few
    hundred miles of east TN??

    BTW, I love the Passat. Drives like the worthy
    younger sister to our A6. I feel great about the
    value but would be happier with a longer warranty.


    Thanks!

    Jim
  • ffxvwffxvw Posts: 93
    I tried the structured arrangement when I first started, and it seemed like people regarded me more as an information resource than as a buying service. In short, these people would take the no-haggle price, (that oftentimes I had to argue with the GSM to get) and use it to beat up the most convenient dealer for them to go to. I didn't seem to get any kind of loyalty for providing this info. I am in a Metro area, and ADM is very rare, except on Silver cars. Now, I am still giving people the same kind of pricing as much as possible, however, almost no numbers get thrown out before they come in. I would love to find an effective way to use a system like yours. If I could surmount the customer walk-away problem, I would switch in a heartbeat.

    Jason

    P.S. Neverretail, too bad you're not up here in Northern Virginia. I could do that deal, and probably better if you would take a Green w/Black. Good luck.
  • I've been trying to decide between the Acura TL and The 2001 GLS for some time now, and I am going for the Passat. I am looking at a lease, for an Auto GLS with the luxury package and posssibly the Monsoon. What sort of numbers have people in the area been looking at? Any dealers anyone would recommend?
    Thanks,
    Aref
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    What is your dealer web address?

    PS
  • avesaves Posts: 3
    In response to sfpassat..I paid 28,810 for my new GLX (satin silver /black),very close to Edmunds TMV. I searched around to other dealers(parts dept) for a trunk 6CD changer. Since my dealer would not budge on the 425 price .I paid 350 and installed it myself which required 4 very small screws and connecting the pre-CD wire hook-up.
    The vehicle was previously ordered by the dealer and I happened to come in at the right time to make the deal.They would not go lower than the above price since they can't keep aGLXsilver/blk on the lot. Hope this helps you!
  • Do you have any idea as to the pricing and anticipated availability of the next generation Passat. I am interested in the GLS 4 cyl with manual trans. and monsoon. How much over invoice do you think I should be looking for?
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