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  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... Do we know if it's really a Demo .? ... MSO and never titled, right .?

                           Terry.
  • acorbyacorby Member Posts: 14
    Terry,

    Thats correct - MSO and never titled. And Buying not boing!

    Thanks!
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ........ On your end of the planet ... 01's, with miles in the 25kish range, Luxomatic and the Nav, there seeing the super ultra high $36ish/mid to high 37ish range, I see a few have rolled over $38, so I'm guessing the West Coast dealers are probably seeing the $42ishishish range or less .... 02's with miles in the 20kish range with all the junk are doing the $41ish range, so again I'm guessing, the dealers out there are seeing the $47ish range or less in those colors ....

                What are they asking out there ..?

                            Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... ** On another note, little one is hopefully getting out of here on Wednesday. I'm sure she's ready to go home, I know I am. **

              Thats the important thing, she doing fine .. not the psycho drivers on the other side of the family .l.o.l....

                            Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ........ 01 Honda Accord 4dr LX 4banger .. low in the miles department, auto and you say it's in good shape ...

                 $8,500 ...? .. something is wrong somewhere, it's gotta be worth $10,0 trade side, probably even as high as $10,5 for a real player, but don't count on it .. are you forgetting a small $750 or $1,200 little kiss that was done a few years back like the guy with the Axiom ...?!?!?

                  Down Retail Rd, super duper detail, super sonic ad - $12,900 *asking* and say: Hasta la Vista at the first $11,5/$12,5 .. lots of Honda's for sale, $14,5 ..? EX V6 maybe .. the miles save this one.

                     Let us know ....

                            Terry.

                        
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,281
    Yup, she's doing pretty darn good, just wish she would eat more.....never met a kid who refuses to eat candy, cake, chips, or any sort of junkfood, strange.

    She's a good kid......just don't talk cars with her, she's worse than me.....oh and never ever play racing games with her, she plays dirty.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... ** just wish she would eat more.....never met a kid who refuses to eat candy, cake, chips, or any sort of junkfood, strange. **

                Have you thought of taking the duct tape off her lips ..?

                          Terry.
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    subearu Jul 12, 2003 6:58am

    Hi again Terry! :-) Just wondering what I can expect now (March/April) for a trade-in on my Outback. It's got new 'shoes' (blackwall TigerPaw touring's) and now has almost 36k on 'er. Otherwise, it's just as clean and well kept as before. I also have the Subaru Gold extended warranty that is transferrable.

    -Brian
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ........ It's in Denver, so the 4MO's sell pretty well .. this one has 4k demo miles, make sure the warranty starts at 4001 miles, plus make sure the warranty time starts the day you leave ... after the dealer money, $29ish would be fair for both ...

                         Terry.
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Member Posts: 2,882
    Thx for the info. Terry. A litle more about the dealer I've learned, they have a reputation of being a "high end" dealer, haven't talked with anyone that had good things to say about dealing with them, and they're open M-Su until 10:30 PM with a full staff. My first impression when we went inside was "high overhead". Sounds like they're trying to make up for the low price on the Highlander with the low ball trade offer. I'm expecting a call from them so I'll see if they can sell me the Highlander for $21K plus tax, tag & title and then sell the Accord myself. Oh, one more thing, the 5 vehicles I mentioned in a previous post that are listed on autotrader.com are all the same year, model & miles (under 30K) as my trade. Thx again.
  • buster6buster6 Member Posts: 134
    Hi Terry,

    This one is for a friend. She has a 99 Infiniti I--specs are

    auto
    leather
    6 disk changer
    moon roof
    auto dimming mirror
    white with tan guts
    deep rubber
    no dents/blemishes
    110% service at dealer
    95k miles in Phoenix

    what should she expect on the trade side/pvt party?

    Thanks again
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,281
    I promise I don't have her duct taped at the moment, she really is allowed to eat, but doesn't seem to like food (who doesn't like food??). Oh well, she's a cutie.
  • sweetv12sweetv12 Member Posts: 58
    Terry, emailed you...will take this offline...thanks...
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... ** second time caller.... ** ..l.o.l..

                 Nice pics .. whats all that white stuff in the 3rd picture - I guess thats one of the movie sets from Miami Vice ..?

                    The miles are low, we have new shoes and if it's close to the picture and no downhill racer stunts .. then trade side, in and around the $11's, might "maybe" see a little more depending on the dealer .. what are you looking at to buy ..?

                          Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... ** Oh, one more thing, the 5 vehicles I mentioned in a previous post that are listed on autotrader.com are all the same year, model & miles (under 30K) as my trade. Thx **

                There is no doubt there is vehicles that are in any paper in America for the extreme "far side" of retail .. it's only human nature.

                They look up the information from Nada, Kbb, Edmunds, Better Homes and Garden, Golf digest, National Enquirer and whatever media of info has the highest figures is what they use .. then 2 months later, the same vehicle is still for sale, 5 months later there off to Home Depot to get some potting soil so they can make a planter out of it .....

                        Terry.
  • romy4romy4 Member Posts: 17
    Hi Terry, I think my previous post got lost ....

    02 Outback Wagon
    Wintergreen, Auto
    cold weather pkg
    auto dimming mirror
    security upgrade
    9300 miles, very clean, dealer serviced, etc.

    I'm located north of Scranton, PA and and need a realistic trade in value.

    Thanks in advance for your help.

    Ro
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ........ Good description, thanks ...

               95k, tall miles going on here .. right color for the area, no kisses, all the service - IF, it looks drives and feels like 50k, no I ate 5 Big Mac's a day and can't figure out why my leather seats look smashed, no-repaints and some real cold breeze .. if it's just a nice hi-miler Infiniti with some care - then trade side, in and around the ultra high $5's, low $6's, maybe a little more if it's jam-up puuuurfect and it needs -0- .. if it needs stuff, start deducting.

                  If you waddle down Retail Rd: delicious detail, attention getting ad, $8,900 *asking* and snatch the first $7,5/$8,5 .. if this is a nice vehicle it won't last long, folks that know Infiniti's will have no fear of 95k - "with" a great history of course ...

                Let me know what happens ..!

                          Terry.
  • bdemasbdemas Member Posts: 51
    A local (Charleston, SC) dealer has a 99 Acura RL with 46.6K miles for $19995. Has everything except Nav system. Its a certified pre-owned car with 7yr/100K drivetrain warranty. The color is dark green with Tan interior. Tires are newer but not new, Goodyear Integra. A maintenance sticker on the windshield shows the next service is/was due 12/03 at 48K miles. I didn't find any other service records. Rides nice, don't know how it compares to new ones though. Small scratches on trunk lid, may be able to buff out, not really sure since its a dark color.

    What would be a good offering price?
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    Thanks Terry. That *snow* picture of mine was a few years ago.

    No racer stunts, as it's vehicle #2 for carting our 2 kids around. It's actually a 4yr/48k lease ending in July. Will lease again (my dw has at home business) and am 95% set on a Forester XT from the same dealer where the Outback was leased. I believe there is a mileage credit as well for being under, not sure if that applies to a trade-in. As far as the new Subie, I'm eligble for invoice pricing on it via the IMBA VIP Partner discount.

    -Brian
  • hondacbrhondacbr Member Posts: 6
    Terry, we're looking to purchase a 2002 Town & Country Limited. Found one for $24,800. No TV, bench for the 3rd row vs. split. 14,000 miles, tires fine. We're in Northwest Indiana. What would this be worth on a trade? Need a starting point for negotiations. Thanks.
  • maxximaxxi Member Posts: 3
    hello Terry, I'm reposting this but I'm n So Caland I wanted to find out what I might look at getting in a trade in for my 1997 Jeep Wrangler TJ in good condition. The jeep has the following:
     

    pearl blue SE, 4 cyl, 5 sp, hard top, am/fm stereo, sound bar, locking center console unit, neoprene car seats, smittybilt nerf bars, Hella 500 driving lights, 15 x 7 alloy American Racing rims, 1" spacer lift, borla catback w/sq. stainless steel tip, OME shocks, 90,200 mi.
     

    Thank you for your help.

    marc
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    from a vehicle with a body lift due to liability reasons. Body lifts are dangerous.
  • cstowecstowe Member Posts: 101
    A 1" body lift is not dangerous...esp with 15x7s on...it is probably more stable than with no lift and stock tires/rims

    However, I would hate to have to push around all that rubber with only the 4cyl

    Good luck maxxi
  • robkimrobkim Member Posts: 6
    Terry,

    You previously wrote ...

    ...... In the city of Lost Wages .. miles are low low low, paint better be nice nice nice, rubber better be deep deep deep ...

    It's a "M" with dual toppers, if the paint is not faded, looks and feels like an 02, no casino kisses, seats look hovered in and all the service .. then trade side, in and around the ultra high $3's, low $4 range ...

    Me personally, this would be going right down Retail Rd .. great Ad, super detail, $7,900 *asking* and off it goes to one of the Show Girls for $6,5/$7,5 .. this should last about 2 days in the land of glitter.

    Terry :)

    ----------

    As an update, I posted the M on Autotrader.com for $6,000 - which I viewed as a fair price and I received four contacts in three days and have agreed to sell it for $6,000 to a guy flying in from Philly. Go figure.

    I'm now thinking that I didn't ask enough, thanks for the help Terry.

    Rob
  • maxximaxxi Member Posts: 3
    hello Terry, I'm reposting this but I'm n So Caland I wanted to find out what I might look at getting in a trade in for my 1997 Jeep Wrangler TJ in good condition. The jeep has the following:
     

    pearl blue SE, 4 cyl, 5 sp, hard top, am/fm stereo, sound bar, locking center console unit, neoprene car seats, smittybilt nerf bars, Hella 500 driving lights, 15 x 7 alloy American Racing rims, 1" spacer lift, borla catback w/sq. stainless steel tip, OME shocks, 90,200 mi.
     

    Thank you for your help.

    marc
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    "A 1" body lift is not dangerous...esp with 15x7s on"

    There is absolutely NO relationship between the size of the wheels and the fact that the bolts supplied with body lifts break under the stress of an accident and the body (and occupants) can detach from the frame.

    I'm surprised that with our overly litigious society, the NHTSA hasn't outlawed body lifts altogether.

    I've investigated 4 fatalities and umpteen injuries involving body lift mounting point breaks, so PLEASE don't tell me they're aren't dangerous.

    Body lifts are for someone who is too cheap to do it right and install a suspension lift.

    There'll be no body-lifted vehicles in my dealer group's used car inventory, and that notion doesn't belong to just me.
  • turboshadowturboshadow Member Posts: 338
    This is on a local dealers lot and I want to know a good price for it:

    2002 Protge5, silver, slider, meat cleaver, 40K miles.

    Broken foglight, mismatched tires, one of which reminds me of Kojak, ghetto tint, decal in back window, filthy interior (complete w/Burger King large sioda cup) been a lot queen for almost 80 days.

    So what's a good deal? I think it'll clean up well.....

    Jamie
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    would let a car be seen like that.
  • turboshadowturboshadow Member Posts: 338
    They forgot it was back there. It's a lease return.
  • turboshadowturboshadow Member Posts: 338
    Protoge 5 is in Columbia, SC
  • jbolltjbollt Member Posts: 736
    The dealership probably doesn't own it..my guess is that it is waiting on the lease company to pick it up and take it to auction... I have seen vehicles like this before, and inquired..that is what I was told as to why it was seemingly forgotten. Sorry, if I am right.
  • turboshadowturboshadow Member Posts: 338
    So can they even sell it? I took it on a test ride; salesmanager seemed upset that it had been sitting there for so long. They were taking it in for detail and repairs when I left.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    if they let you test it, i presume they are selling it.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • cstowecstowe Member Posts: 101
    Sorry, thought you were talking about a raised center of gravity.

    I dont have any expereince with the bolts...I am sure you are correct.

    CTS
  • cabrales1cabrales1 Member Posts: 36
    I apologize, but I had to check out of the web for a few days. The Jetta, along with me, resides in the Washington, DC area. Here is my original post:
    "I'm thinking about selling my Jetta. I like it, it has been a great car, but I really miss having a pickup truck. What is a fair asking price for a 2003 VW Jetta Wagon GLS TDI, 5 spd. manual transmission, leather, monsoon, and heated seats & mirror in baltic green, with about 19k miles. It is in great shape because it is only 1 year old. I have looked at several places for comparison, but there aren't enough of them to really get a good idea. There are lots of Jettas, and lots of TDI's for sale, but few if any TDI wagons. When I bought it I had to go through a lot of hoops because several dealers told me "there are only 7 on the whole east coast", so obviously there are not that many coming up for sale. Any advice that you can give me will be greatly apreciated."
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    I don't have a problem with lift kits that are properly installed, although some dealer groups forbid taking a lifted vehicle in on trade.

    Many companies make strong kits with good hardware. My problem is with body lifts, or "spacer lifts" as the Jeep owner called them - not cool.

    See if you can see a problem with this arrangement. They look like this:

    http://www.chuckschevytruckpages.com/bodylifts.html

    Scroll down to the bottom two photos.
  • agt_cooperagt_cooper Member Posts: 202
    I'm not sure that would be a car I'd want. After all, you've seen it as it was maintained by the previous owner. If they couldn't clean out the inside once in a while, and didn't even bother to clean it when they brought it for trade-in, how much mechanical maintenance do you suppose they did?

    When it comes back from the detail, it will probably look like a grandmother drove it back and forth to church on Sunday, but you've had the benefit of seeing how it really lived. It would take a pretty substantial discount to get me interested!!!
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    many people treat lease cars just like rental cars - they figure they're only going to have them for a while, so who cares about maintenance?

    I'd want to look inside the valve covers and and look at the oil dipstick for gunk -
  • thebigkahunathebigkahuna Member Posts: 83
    Terry, more Jeep Wrangler help here please :) It's a 2002, yellow, 16,600 miles, 6 cylinder "X", 5 speed, soft top, half doors, tilt, leather steering wheel, brush guard, CD, A/C, in Delaware. Looking at easy trade versus selling my self (I ususally do sell myself) but if dealer $ is too low would get wound back up to do it. With the low miles I'm thinking 13,500-14,000 from dealer, 15,500-16,500 retail. Am I close?
  • 20992099 Member Posts: 63
    Terry,

    My uncle just bought a 2001 loaded Crown Victoria from a neighbor who was going to turn it in after a three year lease. Don't know what he paid, but he is very happy. Now needs to sell his 1993 white Crown Victoria. 66K miles, LX with every possible option. Service is outstanding with all receipts, new (6 mo. old) tires. I know it can't be called excellent, but it is very, very, clean inside and out. St. Petersburg, Florida area. He is asking $3500 and has already turned down $2800. I don't think he's out of line, but I'm in Ohio and don't know about the market down there so I'm asking you. Thanks in advance.
  • dkuhajdadkuhajda Member Posts: 487
    If it is really truely as nice as described, $3500 is a fair retail price. No demolition derby in Kmart's parking lot, bumper scrapes or scratches, no signs of underbody rust at all or paint fade.

    Florida is also the place that usually has its fair share of relatively low mileage, Grandpa hardly ever drove it, large cars.

    You are not looking for a car, are you? It would make a good keep in the family kind of drive mobile.

    FYI were it here, it would have an amount financed of $4000 with the $500 down at a super low 19% interest. The joys of buy here pay here.
  • cstowecstowe Member Posts: 101
    OK...in my quest for a more "responsible and baby-friendly" sedan I have a line on a Silver 2003 Acura TL with a spoiler and slider wind deflector but no navi, no Type-S and 10,500 mi here in beautiful Tulsa, OK

    basically a "base" TL but the only option in 2003 was the nav

    The salesman said it was a recent trade from an older gentleman who got a new 04 TL

    He is hitting me at 25,900 WITH a Acura Certification included.

    Given a choice I would really rather have the Type-S and the Navi but they are just not as common and I would like to do something with 1-2 months.

    Terry, what say you?
  • moeronnmoeronn Member Posts: 34
    Terry - I just wanted to updated you regarding my trade in. In post 17542 I posted the details about my 97 Outback with (now) 101k miles and had some extensive body work done. Your post 17559 kind of scared me and I didn't think I would get more than $2.5k or so for it. I took it to CarMax last night and they appraised it at $4,300. If my girlfriend and I had a way home from the lot, I would have signed the paperwork right there and never looked back. I'll be taking it back this weekend and counting my blessings. Thank you father ;)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,175
    This car stickered for .... I think $29,500.. and had an invoice price of right around $27000. At the end of the model year, last fall, I believe there was a $1500 mfg to dealer incentive on the car as well. If I remember correctly, and I might be off by $500 here or there, people on this board were reporting buying these brand new last October for $25,500-$26,000.

    I'm sure Terry can give you specifics on the actual market.. But, my guess is this is about a $22,000-$23,000 car. Maybe the certified warranty makes it worth a little more.

    Just my $.02,
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  • iontrapiontrap Member Posts: 139
    As the title says, I have a 2000 Camry LE I4 w/88K it has ABS, RS3200 and CD. What would a realistic price to ask?

    Thanks
  • automan227automan227 Member Posts: 118
    you need to tell terry where your car is located, any body work thats been done to it, and anything wrong with it now (cosmetically or mechanically).

    AS
  • iontrapiontrap Member Posts: 139
    Forgot to give that info. The car is located in Georgia (Augusta). The trunk lid and rear bumper were replace because of a rear end accident, the damage was approximately $3300.
  • chile96chile96 Member Posts: 330
    Terry - By the off chance that you're sitting by your comp on a beautiful Saturday instead of watching the tourney, I need you opinion. Deal in the works right now and need to tell them by closing tonight 6pm EST. A buyer is already lined up for Monday (friend of a friend so I know it's legit) so this is my only shot.

    2003 C4S Coupe in Atlanta
    Midnight Blue/ Graphite Gray leather
    Sport Exhaust
    PSM
    Bose
    Handshaker
    Aluminum Pkg
    Heated Seats
    2400 miles

    http://hennessy.porschedealer.com/preowned_cars/inventory/info.ph- - p?inventoryid=94475

    Want $77500 (listed now @ $79,800, original MSRP $92,000)) and will give me $39K for my boxster S (2003 loaded)

    I initially passed as I was not planning on spending this much but...... now I'm considering. My max is a $35K difference, is this feasible? or just plain offensive?

    BTW, a recent survey I filled out for this dealership for Porsche NA was printed in Porsche NA's quarterly report and because of it they were awarded some $$$ and some extra stuff. The service mgr, who deserves it(not the GM), said in 15yrs of Porsche service this has never happened to him and he is literally bouncing off the walls. You'd think because of something like this they would be lenient with me on price but their GM is something else!

    thanks for the promptness
    fo
  • qwallsqwalls Member Posts: 406
    Hey Terry. I'm baaaaack! :-) It may be "buy a new vehicle or two take a hit on depreciation" time. The wife wants a minivan (don't ask), so I'll probably sell the Honda (already have 2 potential buyers, just need a fair price) and take her '96 Avalon as my daily driver. Looking at a Mazda MPV LX (she doesn't want leather this time) which currently has a $2k rebate.

    Also, really like the new Acura TL, so considering trading the Lexus, but that's still iffy, at least until there are better deals to be had on the TL w/ Navigation, and I'm sure I want to make the change. The TLs are still pretty hot. Would also consider selling The Lexus myself, but not a lot of people have that kind of money sitting around for a private sale, and there is the tax break to consider.

    Columbus Ohio area.

    At this instant, my website seems to be down, so you may not be able to view the pictures.

    '99 Lexus LS400, black on tan. moonroof, heated seats, CD changer, HID lights, 50% tinted windows. Decent condition, no accidents according to carfax, but paintwork on the right rear door. There is a scratch (about 1") on the right rear quarter panel. Typical stone chips on the front. Clean interior except for a carpet stain under the left rear floor mat. 40k miles, and still running great. I don't know if I can give up that smooth V8, but new technology and a pristine paint job are calling to me. I need to stay away from auto shows. :-)

    http://qwalls.net/images/99lexus.jpg

    '93 Honda Accord SE, dark green on tan, new tires & exhaust, AC runs cold, power moonroof, windows and doors, CD changer, BOSE stereo, alarm w/ keyless entry, 150k miles, average condition for its age. Paintwork (color matches well, but easy to spot) on the hood, and left front fender and driver's door. (A deer ran into the side of the car and rolled over the hood.) Also a few problems, it will need a driver's door window track (had to do the same thing on the '91, may take a couple tries to get an airtight seal when rolling it up),the rear window defogger seems to be on the fritz, and one of the speakers is blown (currently disconnected. I was thinking about $2500-3k as is, or ~$3500 if I get the items fixed? One of the potential buyers bought my last two Hondas when I sold them. Anyway, I only paid $2500 for it, so I figure worst case, I drove it 2.5 years for free. :-)

    http://qwalls.net/images/93accord.jpg

    Sorry about the book. :-) As usual, thanks, and take care. You're awesome!

    Q
  • jlawrence01jlawrence01 Member Posts: 1,757
    Terry and others,

    Another car to sell (and perhaps the last of the year).

    2001 Pontiac Bonneville SE Sedan
    3.8 Litre 3800 series 8 V-6
    Dark Bronzemist metallic exterior
    Taupe interior

    Dual Airbags
    Remote keyless entry
    Leather wrapped steering wheel
    Leather bucket seats
    Air conditioning with dual zone
    AM/FM Stereo with cassette and CD
    Traction Contro;
    Rear Spoiler and fog lamps
    Rally gages and tachometer
    On Star

    Interior - very clean
    Exterior - no dings or dents BUT .....

    A deer ran into the passenger side of the car a few months back denting both doors and the front and rear fenders (and survived).

    Took it to the best body shop in the area and they did a great job. I can't tell where the damage was but I don't look at a thousand cars a week.

    Two questions:

    1) If I sent it to the auctions, what can I expect to see for it??

    2) What would be the retail on this car?

    I may bid on the car also. It is a sweet ride.

    58k miles
    Chicagoland area
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