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  • dbd34dbd34 Posts: 18
    I had occasion this weekend to test the trunk opening and capacity on the Town Car. The wife used the TC to transport a string quartet around to a gig, along with all their instruments and equipment (music stands, etc.)

    The trunk swallowed up a cello, viola, and two violins all in bulky cases just fine.

    When I was 16, I drove an Imperial. A TC would make a fine car for a teenager - a very lucky teenager. Used to be that Caddies, Imperials and Lincolns were great cars for kids and much prized because they were: safe, spacious, and had lots of HP to carry around all the friends that showed up for a free ride to whereever.
  • I checked out the Mercury. Thanks to you I checked out www.blueoval.com. Now that was interisting. No wonder the Lincoln has a lower image than the Cad. The paint, the fit, and more. If everybody truly loves the Lincoln Town Car, They should read this stuff and then ("Squeak LOUDLY") and maybe together we ALL can get the Lincoln to be reconized by even the CAD and MZB people to be a Great, Powerful, Luxurious Automobile that we ALL Know that it can be.

    Bean Counters, Please ADD a few more to the Lincoln Town Cars (Pot).
  • I own a 1993 Lincoln Town Car. It's beautiful. I am 18 years old, I've wanted a Town Car since I was 13. The only thing I see wrong with my car, is I think it burns oil. It blows a little bit of white smoke out the back if you let it sit for a few minutes?
  • OK now, everybody step forward and let us all know just what this is..!!!.TALK ABOUT IMAGE..!!!.Now why can't these ideas trickle down to the current Lincoln Town Car...(Found)...at...www.blueoval.com...Concept cars...Sentinal...There are a few more LINCOLN Concept cars in that area also. Now just why doesn't THE Lincoln Motor Division PUT their design work on the SHOW-ROOM-FLOOR???
  • I believe that it is OK to like Big Sedans when you are young adult. I too liked Big Sedans when I was a young adult. It is also OK to like much smaller and quicker sportier cars. The first cars I fell in love were: 1st the '32 ford roadster, the 2nd was the '48 Lincoln Continental Cabriolet,3rd the '63 Lincoln 4dr convertible. If possible, I would like own a 2002 Lincoln Town Car 4dr convertible. We don't want to stop dreaming, we don't want to stop having HOPE for a better future.
  • What are the average ages of the buyers of Lincoln products?
    Has the average age been going up or down in recent years?
    What does the dealerships records show on this?
    Are the average ages of buyers of new Lincoln vehicles the same average as the Cad vehicles?
    Of the total number of new Devilles sold, what percentage are DTS's sold?
    Of the total number of new Town Cars,what percentage have the "Sport Package" when sold?
    ...WHY???...
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    I've heard the average age for a Town Car buyer is 64. I'd guess the Continental (essentially the same type of car except FWD) would be in the same ballpark. Average age of Nav's and LS's would (and I am guessing at this) probably be much lower. Considering the Nav and LS are fairly new models compared to the Town Car and Continental, I'd venture a guess that the average age is coming down.
    For the record, I'm twenty years old, and my favorite cars are full size, RWD sedans. My first car was a Grand Marquis, and my dream car is a Jag Vanden Plas. (Although I'm not sure if the Jag qualifies as "full size" or not.) Town Cars are also very (dare I say this?) cool, though.
  • I have owned 1990, 1995 and now the 2000 Signature with the Touring sedan option. (a mistake)
    I like the cars, one criticism, the drivers seat is not comfortable for long trips. It does not give sufficient support. My wife's Ford Explorer has a far better seat. The Touring Sedan is too busy in mountain driving, shift points are poorly chosen. I will probably buy another TC, I drive them about 70,000 miles. Present car gives about 3 miles per gallon poorer mileage.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Does anyone share this 45 yr old RWD fan's (Gr Marq owner) opinion that the current TC has middle aged bulge? I knew something bothered me about the look and finally figured out how to express it!

    I love the front - suggests to me what a Couger ought to look like - but the sides just look like love handles to me. I can see that anytime I care to - all I need is a mirror!

    I think the TC ought to join me on the Norditrack.

    Turnpike Ken
  • dbd34dbd34 Posts: 18
    When I first saw the current TC body style, I thought it looked a little tubby too. Love handles, well... not quite, but not too far off base I suppose. After they had been out a year, I got used to the look, and now that I own one, I really like the look. It's big and agressive looking, and likes it - no apologies for being big. Not low and sleek, or high and silly looking - it's big, broad, hunkered down, and nasty looking; especially with the TS option which does away with the chrome belt, and replaces the chrome on the grill with the 'argent' color. I dig it. In some respect it reminds me of a 48 Merc, but bigger.

    I too am in the 45 yr old bracket. I doubt that the average age of TC buyers is over 60 - especially since fleet buyers probably outnumber personal buyers by about 3-1. Of course, repeat byers could skew the numbers. In general I believe anyone buying a $40k car will always be in the middle aged bracket.

    Lyntonw - Concerning the TS option, wow - different strokes for different folks! I love the seat, and I'm about 250 pounds. My spouse (116 pounds) finds it to be heaven. I find it to be just great cruising over the Sierra mountains - with cruise control on, shifts are almost imperceptable, and not at all annoying. I once drove an older (30k miles plus) rental TC (no TS option) over the Sierras, and the cruise control caused the shift points to be really obnoxious. I'm sure something was broken.

    I've put some time in the Explorer seats too, so I can't imagine someone finding them better, but who am I to second-guess. I do know however that there are a whole lot of adjustments to be made in the TC seats. Many times my kids will get in and move the seats around, and they are just painful in that position. A lot of people don't know how, or don't care to take the time to adjust the seat to the best position. I would suggest the wife take some time to experiment and set the seat up correctly for her preference.

    With the lumbar support and the perforated leather I find the TC with TS option to be A+ on trips long (5-8 hours) or short.

    I will definitely buy another TC, with the TS option at trade in time. Every long trip I take confirms this (10k miles since March, several trips over 250 miles each way in California mountains).

    Some things I want to see: a handy place to put my cell phone without pulling out the ashtray (I understand the 2001 has a built in phone finally). Maybe a little tray in the center for phone, glasses etc. I want the older trip computer with time to destination. And, a little cargo net in the trunk would be nice.
  • Check under the dashboard on the passenger side. If it is like my CV, you should find a 12V outlet there to use.
  • occupant1occupant1 Posts: 408
    I wanted to replace my 1994 Cavalier with a 1995-1997 Geo Metro and a 1990-1994 Lincoln Town Car. But I ended with with a 1995 Ford Aspire and $1550 cash. I guess $1550 isn't quite enough to buy a $2000 Town Car so here I go saving again. www.towncarblowout.com has 1992-1993 Town Cars for $3000 listed but the guy emailed me back saying he would take $2000 for the 92-93's and $3000 for the 94's. I can pick them up in Brooklyn. Sounds good. I don't care how many miles it has, if it makes it home to Dallas, I'm happy! So I may have one in say, four to six weeks. And I'll tell you guys all about the trip.
  • dbd34dbd34 Posts: 18
    For the newer Town Car series, what sort of accessories are owners adding?
    I'm considering:
    1. Trunk organizer
    2. Additional CD cassette, so that I can pre-load it and just switch out a six-pack, and reload it at my leisure
    3. Some place to put my cell phone where I can get at it easily
    4. Pinstriping. The wife shot this down, but I may not give up on this.
    5. Heat seeking missile for drivers of lesser cars that need to impose themselves at unsafe times and distances.


    More suggestions? How do owners of the Cartier edition like the options on that model?

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  • kinleykinley Posts: 854
    the only option missing on the TC is the Mark VIII engine. Everything else - it has - for me.
  • ford624ford624 Posts: 75
    Maybe the Touring PKG. Sure is a beautiful Automobile.
  • I have it on my 2000 and it cost me about 3 MPG over mileage I got on identical 1995 without it.
    And, mountain driving gave some real flukey shifts.
    I would not get it again, I would order the Cartier series, get the big engine and the standard transmission.
  • gkarggkarg Posts: 230
    I'm planning to have them installed on my Lincolns. There is nothing more frustruating, than driving down the highway at 60 mph (on a 55 mph road) and having people pull out in front of you, because they think you're Grandpa Jones out for a Sunday Cruise.

    Of course, the launch button will have to be conveniently located on the steering wheel for quick, easy access!
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    Um, guys, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but in Ohio and at least 49 other states, they don't allow you to register cars with heat seeking missile systems. My I instead reccomend a large, chrome West-Texas style grille gaurd over the front bumper that, combined with the Lincoln's 4.6 litre V-8, makes a very effective "slow-car plow" that can quickly and effeciently push other vehicles out of the way.
  • ford624ford624 Posts: 75
    Straight through pipes and a Black paint job with orange and red Flames. Then "SCARE" them!! to the side of the road. That way a vacuum will be created and then that will surely pull you to the head of the pack.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Remember those fifties into early sixties Caddies that had beautiful chrome front bumpers and huge missle resembling prutrusions (to say nothing of the tail fins)? Actually I have heard them likened to female anatomy as well. Now just add the functionality and wow what a great feature! Those triple note Caddie trumpet horns were great too. Need to bring back some of these ideas - maybe as 'retro' options!

    Turnpike Ken
  • My wife and I have just purchased a 2001 Town Car. Others considering this model should know Lincoln has ordered replacement of an air bag module on all its 2001 Town Cars. Our sales person told us no 2001 model may be taken off the lot for a test drive, presumably because of some unidentified danger in the event of an accident. Dealers, he said, do not have the modules in stock because they are in short supply, and they have to notify the parts distributor when a TC has been sold. The distributor then overnights a module for the dealer to install. It's mostly a nuisance, but until the Lincoln division develops a better supply program don't plan on a test drive of a 2001 TC.
    The 2000 TCs are almost identical, but don't have the adjustable foot pedals that are important to shorter drivers.
  • dbd34dbd34 Posts: 18
    So, Reese any idea which airbag is involved? I wonder about the veracity of what the salesman was saying.

    By the way, what car did you previously drive before the TC? What made you choose the TC? What model and options did you order? What other cars, or options within the TC line did you consider? How do you like the car so far?

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  • tgrahtgrah Posts: 1
    Y've heard of families discussing the choice between SUV and minivan? Of executives to go Lexus or Mercedes?
    Those are the wrong alternatives, there is only one choice to get the max out of your money - Our little boys love to ride in the "batmobile", the black '99 Town Car, which provides more space and comfort than any other available car. Clients respect it very much, and feel the sense of place - this is America.
    Since some 'friends' mistook it as a company car [that is the effect of those fleet buyers], I had to add a white '66 Continental Conv to complete the Yin&Yang symbol, though.
  • I just bought a new 2000 Towncar with TS option, but there where no floor mats in the car so the dealer took some out of an executive model and said they where the same. Are they the same? I though the TS front floor mats said Touring Sedan on them? Can anyone with the TS comment on this? Thanks
    I have not driven it enough for a full review, but so far I love it.
  • dbd34dbd34 Posts: 18
    You got gipped! The floor mats delivered in my Touring Sedan are the same color as the carpets, have a ring for the non-slip hook on the driver side, AND have "Touring Sedan" very nicely embroidered vertically on the sill side of each mat.
    They are very nice looking, and compliment the perforated leather and birds-eye walnut that are also part of the TS package.
    You're dealer/salesman is WRONG. DEMAND the proper set. They should consider the other set from the Exec as a loaner until the proper set are delivered.

    The TS option is sufficiently rare that many dealers don't see any, or very few.
  • dbd34dbd34 Posts: 18
    dpa:
    I think you are going to like your TS, if my experience is any guide. I've had mine for about 10k miles now. Some impressions -
    - I love the car. It's quiet, fast, handles very well, and makes driving a pleasure
    - Everyone who gets in the car loves it. Room, comfort, and quiet for everyone.
    - Alpine stereo system with CD was a great choice. It really makes the car a joy.
    - Mileage: average per tank of gas, mostly stop and go commute 18 mpg. Freeway trips, hilly terrain, 70 mph average, 23 mpg; flat terrain 24 mpg.
    - Ability to use 87 octane in all conditions, and never a ping of loss of power, even over the Sierras is great.
    - The Michelins are a super tire.
    - Dimension measurements do not do the interior comfort justice. No other car this side of a Rolls has the room of a TC.
    - I am so glad I didn't buy FWD...
    - Response from everyone to the car is positive. Kids, colleagues, fellow auto enthusiasts all give the car high praise.

    It's true - SUV's, Lexus's, etc. are not even in the same class, and European 'Ultra Luxury' have no option or quality that is worth the extra tens of thousands of $$.
    I look forward to trade-in time when I can get another new one.
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    "I look forward to trade in time when I can get another new one."

    dbd34, this is the first time I have ever seen someone say they love their car so much they can't wait to get rid of it!
  • Can anyone tell me if the Town Car has a similar air suspension to the LSC of 1984-92? My 87 Mark VII has 100,000 miles and the air suspension failed requiring two new front air bag springs, a control module for the right front and lots of labour. Over $2,000 Canadian so far and haven't picked it up yet. Would like a 1995 Town Car but am a little wary of air ride suspension. Any thoughts?
  • kinleykinley Posts: 854
    with standard air suspension has 86,000 miles and no problem with the AS. I've several friends with TCs and AS and they haven't any problems either.
  • occupant1occupant1 Posts: 408
    I thought it was funny when my Dad picked up his rental car today, a silver 2000 Town Car. He said he thought the radio was broken, I turned it on and it sounded like it was coming from twenty feet down in a well, turns out the previous driver set the radio to some kind of Stadium setting. I turned the EQ off and it sounded better. My God, that is a beautiful smooth car. My Dad is used to his 1992 Buick Century, in fact when we got out of dinner there was one parked next to the Lincoln and he was trying his keys in the Buick thinking it was his car.

    And I am one of those dorky dippy car nut kids, and I like the whine of first gear and the drop in pitch as it shifts to second. It sounds just like the Crown Vic taxis I'm interested in buying. I think a 1998 Crown Vic for $4000 is a good deal, and I don't care if it is yellow. If they're all gone, fine, I'll still get one of the black Town Cars, since there are plenty of those hanging around New York and New Jersey.
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