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  • cats8cats8 Member Posts: 22
    how fast can the lincolin go email me at mkitty@inreach.com
  • dbd34dbd34 Member Posts: 18
    Some comments:
    - If you need to ask how fast the Town Car will go, you don't want one and shouldn't be driving one.
    - If you're concern is for it being 'slower' than the Cadillac, it is. Does it accelerate and pass easily in all terrain, and easily come up to freeway speeds under all loads? Yes. Can any 16 year-old whomp [non-permissible content removed] on any car with a $750 used motorcycle in any acceleration contest? Yes. I don't think there is any car costing over $30k that can be called a "gutless wonder", save perhaps a diesel powered one.
    - The DeVille is an extremely nice car. It has night vision, 3-area-climate control, Nav System, Tire pressure monitor, "Road Sensing Suspension", Stabilitrak, lumbar massagers, lumbar supports in the rear seats, radar parking assistance and 275 HP.
    - I bought the Town Car over the DeVille (I drove both for a few hundred miles) because the TC DOESN'T have all those extra gimmicks. The only one I would consider having would be the lumbar massager. I didn't find any of the others useful at all after the initial "oh my!" response. The Nav System, Night Vision, 3-area climate are VERY useless, IMHO.
    - The Town Car has the one true luxury that no other car can touch - real estate. It is larger and more roomy, especially if you ever carry passengers, than any other car - American, German, Japanese; only the Rolls comes close to matching the comfort in terms of room to move and relax on a long trip.
    - The TC being RWD behaves much better and feels better at the wheel than the FWD Cad. The Cad has much more body roll, and the suspension is not nearly as firm when needed.

    - Some quirks in the TC that you won't understand unless you READ THE OWNER's HANDBOOK (if you don't have one, go buy one from the dealer):
    1. The seats need to be adjusted in order to be comfortable. What your 13-year-old finds comfortable, is not necessarily what you will find comfy.
    2. The operation of the radio/stereo. There are LOTS of settings that can make the volume, display, sound quality, and lots of other things seem peculiar, or truly enhance the sound. READ THE MANUAL!
    3. Time delays, as mentioned in the posts above. Interior lights dim and stay lit on a delayed basis. The headlights can be set to stay on after you leave IF IT IS SUFFICIENTLY DARK! The timer won't kick on unless it is really dark.
    4. Program the keypad entry feature. It's great, and can be a lifesaver if you lock your keys in.
    5. Program the seat memory to your remote entry unit. See the manual - it works very well, and is darned handy when you share the car from time to time with a second driver.


    Is the TC worth the $15k difference from the Crown Vic/Grand Marq? Depends on whether you have the $15k or not. The CV/GM is probably the best automotive bargain available, bar none, today. A better question to ask is whether a BMW or MB is worth the $30k more? That is an EASY question to answer.



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  • cats8cats8 Member Posts: 22
    is the 1993 lincoln bad for burneing oil can it be stopt if it can email me at mkitty@inreach.com and tell me how fast the lincoln gos. and the lincln do not have 2 air bags is has 1 in 1991 to 1992
  • cats8cats8 Member Posts: 22
    how fast do the lincoln can go email me at mkitty@inreach.com oky
  • occupant1occupant1 Member Posts: 412
    The Ford 4.6L engine can burn oil. So can any engine. It all depends how you treat it. If you abuse your engine, it will burn oil or overheat or knock. If you drive normally, not at whatever top speed the Town Car has, it will be fine. If you aleady bought an oil burning Town Car, well, I hope you got it cheap.

    And please stop cluttering up my inbox with 6 of your emails. I discuss cars on Edmunds, not in my email.
  • cats8cats8 Member Posts: 22
    can you tell me how fast can the lincoln can go and do the 1990 to 1991 onley have 1 air bags on the drivrs sid if so email me at mkitty@inreach.com and tell me do the lincoln burn oil all the time and is the lincoln good in 1996 for a car.
  • cats8cats8 Member Posts: 22
    can you tell me how fast the lincoln can go email me at mkitty@inreach.com
  • cats8cats8 Member Posts: 22
    i wnte to now how fast the lincoln can go e mail me at mkitty@inreach.com
  • tbear503tbear503 Member Posts: 70
    What does it matter the top speed?
  • cats8cats8 Member Posts: 22
    what is the lincoln top speed email me at mkitty@inreach.com
  • pdiazpdiaz Member Posts: 2
    Hi dave3003 & others,

    Have similar problem on my 94" TC Signature. Did you get resolution? Please respond.
  • cats8cats8 Member Posts: 22
    do the lincoln burn oil of so email me at mkitty@inreach.com
  • rea98drea98d Member Posts: 982
    The Town Car's Top speed is electronically governed at 110 MPH.
  • rea98drea98d Member Posts: 982
    Which, by the way is way too fast to be driving any car, unless you're on a designated race track.
  • gkarggkarg Member Posts: 230
    If you think 110 is too fast, you should wonder over to the Lincoln LS forum. They regularly talk about getting their LS's up to top speeds of either 125 or 145 mph, depending on whether they have the V6 or V8, respectively.

    I have a V6 LS and have yet to go over 100... there simply isn't a good place here in the country area in PA.... too many hills/trees/turns/deer/police.
  • mike350mike350 Member Posts: 9
    Just bought a 90 TC Cartier Edition - 62,000 miles, moon roof, leather, memory seat, AM/FM Stereo with a single CD player. (all available options except trailer towing and anti-theft). Originally a Ford Executive vehicle and then one owner for past ten years. Older gentleman traded in due to ill health. Near mint condition on the outside with original paint. Like new inside. Drives great, no rattles and a superb sound system (8 speakers and an 85 watt amplified sub woofer according to the manual) Looks good in the driveway with my 87 Mark VII LSC. (Wife just ordered 2001 Ford SE Wagon so we won't go broke on gas bills). Have decided we will cover it and not drive during winter weather here in Ontario, Canada to save it from rusting. I am 46 years old with three kids, a dog and a cottage to go to. The TC provides room for 6, a huge trunk and is my version of the family mini-van. My son's friends (12 years old) think it is a great ride and no one can believe it is ten years old. My 9 year old daughter loves the room and can sit in the front with us unlike most other cars today. The price? $8,800 Canadian. About the same price as a 95 Ford Escort wagon with virtually no options and similar miles only on a 4 cylinder motor. What is the better value? This is my two cents worth. A Lincoln Nut.
  • cats8cats8 Member Posts: 22
    how fast can the lincoln can go and do the lincoln burn oil from 1990 to 1994 if so email me at mkitty@inreach.com
  • johnbonojohnbono Member Posts: 80
    Instead of asking people to email you, why don't you read the forum? And to answer your question, any Lincoln running a 4.6l SOHC engine will top out at 106 MPH. It's 0-60 time will be between 8.5 for the dual exhaust motor to 10.X for the granny geared engine. Early model 4.6s(pre 93 or so) will burn oil due to bad valve stem seals(I think that's the term) Later models will not burn oil if they've been given the proper oil at regular intervals. Well-maintained, a 4.6 engine should last over 300,000 miles.
  • kinleykinley Member Posts: 854
    Congratulations on your very low miles 90 T/C. I believe you have the 5 liter, 302 c.i. OHV V8 which has been an excellent engine since the early 60's. We put 127,000 miles on our 82 T/C before selling it to a friend in 1994. It had the 5 liter, 302 c.i. engine and went very well as did the transmission. However, a transmission cooler was installed as the T/C towed a 3,000 lb boat/trailer. A very comfortable motor car.
  • mike350mike350 Member Posts: 9
    Yes - it does have the 5.0 litre or 302 cu.in. motor. I suspect similar to the 5.0 L High Output in my 87 LSC except less horsepower. The LSC has 200 HP and has 100,000 miles. Very powerful in this car and so far trouble free. Not sure what HP the newer 90 TC has with single exhaust. I am sure there is an internet site with this information.
    Thanks for your comments!
  • kinleykinley Member Posts: 854
    Single exhaust was on our 82 and in quest of more horsepower a Crower camshaft was installed. Due to the computer's setting from the factory, it would not allow the camshaft to be of benefit. The one modification that did improve performance was when we twinned out the exhaust, not using another cat converter. Monroe air shocks were installed in the rear with the valve stem located in the middle of the rear valance. With 120 lbs of air, the rear was up a lot higher and we were getting a lot better mpg as the car was always going downhill. (just twin out the exhaust)
  • cats8cats8 Member Posts: 22
    do the lincoln brun oil if so email me at mkitty@inreach.com and tell me how fast the 2000 lincoln can go
  • rea98drea98d Member Posts: 982
    The Lincoln is equipped with a 4.6 litre engine, which doesn't usually use any oil, but if you put anything thicker than 10w30 in it, you will damage the engine and it will consume generous amounts of oil. Really the answer to that question depends on the specefic car you're looking at, and many times you can't tell for sure until after you've bought the car and driven it for a few thousand miles.
  • gkarggkarg Member Posts: 230
    This link is pretty cool. It is the "11/03: Lincoln Towncar vs. Lightning" link on the page I'm posting here:
    http://jwfisher.home.texas.net/default.htm

    It is what happens when one HECK of a bolt of Lightning hits a car and melts it. I couldn't believe the damage this thing sustained!
  • bettyzbettyz Member Posts: 1
    My folks are 4 generation Towncar Owners and have never been as disappointed with a car as they are with their newest 2000 Towncar.

    They finally got the moonroof they have been wanting for years. They are unable to use the moonroof due to the extremely bad 'buffetting'. Does anyone have a solution?

    The trunk is difficult to shut, requiring a hard slam. Gone are the 'auto closers' as in their previous models? Is this an option they might have overlooked?

    After several, frustrating visits to the dealership garage, we are unable to determine the cause of a very obvious pull to the left? One mechanic actually went so far as to adjust the steering wheel(?)... we took it back the next day to put it back where it belongs. They are lucky we have had a sense of humor about this whole situation.

    Things are mounting to the point that they want to trade towards a Grand Marquis. It has always been 'a Towncar or nothing' mentality.... well, no longer. In fact, I would not be surprised if they experiment with a Cadillac next time.

    I'm asking if there is anyone (other than our local dealer) whom we can get some 'service' from. Everything has been under warranty so money is not the issue, it is the inconvenience.

    Oh, I almost forgot to mention the front brake dust issue, the inadequate front cup holders and the continuous squeaky rear brakes. We've been told 'this is a normal occurence for some Lincolns'.......where do we go from here????

    Please, if you have advice, e-mail me at 'ru2going2@yahoo.com' and I will advise my folks.
  • kinleykinley Member Posts: 854
    What is there about the 2000 Towncar they like?
  • dbd34dbd34 Member Posts: 18
    to another Lincoln dealer. The problems you mention are not common, and should be swiftly and easily dealt with.

    1. The moonroof. The deflector appears to be misadjusted. I believe there is a service bulletin available at the dealer's instructing how to do this correctly.
    2. The steering. Not normal, or acceptable. Something must be very wrong. Clearly any competent shop should be able to clear this up. UNLESS the pull only occurs on a road with a severe crown. Even if its a defective tire, they should be able to pinpoint and fix quickly.
    3. Ditto the brakes. There is no reason for a squeak anywhere. It is possible they got glazed by improper break-in, but a good service person can tell the driver what to do, and what not to do (NEVER drive with the left foot on the brake, etc.)

    The trunk on every 1998-2000 TC I have driven is a two finger closer. It has an adjustment point. I found the old power closer to be of little or no use.

    Has this car been in a wreck? How many miles?

    Short answer: even if you have to drive an hour, find a better Lincoln dealer. They will probably even pick up the cost to travel, and offer a rental. All these problems are easily solvable. (Except front brake dust. NO car can avoid that)
  • trainiactrainiac Member Posts: 24
    Looked at a 95 Town Car, Cartier, loaded except for CD player and without padded roof. One owner, no dings or dents, no appearance of ever been hit or damaged in any way. 69,000 miles and dealer serviced at the proper intervals.Somewhat exceptional compared to other ones I have looked at recently. Asking price is $14,000. What do you think? Is it worth $12-12.5. By the way, the car drives very straight, no shimmy in front end or pulling to one side. Thanks in advance for responses.
  • kinleykinley Member Posts: 854
    IMO the asking price is a fair value for such a car. 69,000 is low miles and probably has replacement tires with less than 10,000 on them. The brake pads have been replaced, but the battery is probably original. Is it w/o stale cigarette or cigar odor? If the seller is in a "Sales Tax" state he would be better off trading it in as the tax is based on the cash difference rather than taking a lower price. By trading it in the seller could save up to $1,300.00 so I would not expect him to come down much off the asking price. Really clean Towncars of the Cartier class are very rare as compared to all of the Executives and Signatures out there. Go for it and enjoy your very good motorcar.
  • trainiactrainiac Member Posts: 24
    Thanks for the input! The car has a faint smell of cigarette smoke, which bothers me, and yes it is a non sales tax deal. Brakes amd tires are recent, so you are right on with your assessment. Thanks again.
  • lando2lando2 Member Posts: 12
    I just bought a 95 Presidential for $6500 (it was a repo) with 126k. No sunroof/cd but otherwise fully loaded. It rides great. Does anyone have any additional info regarding this model? (It has 'Signature Series' on the lower rear quarterpanels.)
  • kinleykinley Member Posts: 854
    perhaps somebody put some whipped cream and a cherry on a stock Signature and post labeled it a "Presidential". I just imagine it has a full vinyl top, gold package, dark tinted glass, WSW tires, and chrome wheel well rings. Oh yes, and chrome wheels. It should go another 126k so have fun.
  • lando2lando2 Member Posts: 12
    I have seen only one other (4-5 yrs ago) that was blu/blu with blu interior, gold package (It was more than I could afford...). This one has no gold pkg. but every thing else you mentioned. Would it be possible to install a factory CD or trunk-mounted unit? If so, how much would it cost?
  • kinleykinley Member Posts: 854
    For high fidelity response use a CD deck that is hard wired to the indash radio assembly.(There should be a female socket for the plug in.) When using the other kind, calling for a Frequency Modulator, you are limiting the high frequency to only about 14,000. Reason? The frequency modulator is a tiny transmitter sending the CD signal to and through your car's antenna into the amplifier section of the indash receiver, radio. I recommend you search the wrecking yards for the FACTORY unit that plugs into the back of your set. Have fun.
  • workingman501workingman501 Member Posts: 1
    I am purchasing a 1991 Exec series TC. Does anyone know of any major problems with this model year? I know this is the first year they used the 4.6 in these. Are there any engine of Transmission issues that I need to be aware of?
    Thanks
  • cats8cats8 Member Posts: 22
    how fast do the 2000 lincoln can go. if you now email me at mkitty@inreach.com
  • mike350mike350 Member Posts: 9
    Get off the "How Fast" topic...no one cares....
  • gary117gary117 Member Posts: 4
    My recently purchased '96 Signature has what I consider excessive wind noise. The noise seems to come from the cowl area. The noise also seems to have gotten worse since the blend air door was replaced. Any advice/assistance would be appreciated.
  • pdiazpdiaz Member Posts: 2
    I have a great 1994 TC Signature (57K miles) with an intermittent problem starting the engine after it is hot (sometimes as little as 5-10 minutes after initial ignition and shut down). It cranks strong and long but will not restart (regardless of weather conditions) until it sits (cools?) for approximately 5-20 minutes and then starts as usual. This problem is beginning to happen more frequently and the dealer doesn't have a clue without the problem occuring while in their shop so they could run diagnostics. Are there known problems of this sort (Dave3003 in post 175 on this board had a similar problem on his 95' TC)?
    Any suggestions appreciated! Sensor related? Computer? Fuel Pump? Help!!!
  • kinleykinley Member Posts: 854
    Our T/C is a 94 Sig with 87,000 and no such experience, but I am under the impression that the computer can be made to reveal what happens from its memory. Having owned T/Cs for 20 years, I've come to know that the big city, large volume dealers have the more expensive diagnostic analyzers costing too much for the small dealer to depreciate due to very little use. Thus, take you car to a repair shop having the more sophisticated equipment. (Small dealers usually invest in only "console" types of analyzers and then gamble with hunches. SUN is a manufacturer of such equipment. Happy Day.
  • gkarggkarg Member Posts: 230
    Sounds like you could easily eliminate the Fuel Pump. When you get into the car, turn off everything...fan, radio, etc. Turn the key to the "on" position, but do not start. You should ALWAYS hear the fuel pump come on for about 3 seconds. If you don't hear the pump, then it is either the pump or relays/wiring to the pump.

    If you don't hear the pump. Have someone else turn the key on, and get your ear as close to the gas tank (without getting under the car) as you can. (A quiet area works best...not near a highway.)
  • gargoyle_62gargoyle_62 Member Posts: 2
    Do the Lincoln Town cars have the same nonmetal intake manifolds that the Mercury Grand Marquis have. If they do, have they had similar problems?
  • gargoyle_62gargoyle_62 Member Posts: 2
    Do the Lincoln Town cars have the same nonmetal intake manifolds that the Mercury Grand Marquis have. If they do, have they had similar problems?
  • rea98drea98d Member Posts: 982
    Yes ans yes. Even the heavy duty cop cars have plastic manifolds. Pull one off a 94-95 model 4.6 engine, and problem solved. Or get Ford to replace it when it breaks, with another plastic manifold. Then get Ford to replace it when it breaks again. and again. and again.
    When is ford ever gonna learn? They took a perfectly good 3.8 liter v-6, and let the bean counters mess it up putting cheap head gaskets on. Now they're doing the same with the 4.6 and cheap intakes! Ford needs to can some beans, IMHO!
  • lando2lando2 Member Posts: 12
    How do you program the 3-button garage opener?
    I haven't been able to find a reference(instructions) anywhere. Also, does anyone know how the ABS sensors operate on '95 T/C's? Is it a DIY fix? Thanks in advance._
  • dbd34dbd34 Member Posts: 18
    The 3-button universal remote is described in the owner's manual. Basically, you press and hold a button to be programmed, and when it blinks accordingly (I foget the exact pattern) you send a signal with the OEM remote unit. The car sender 'senses' this signal, and programs the button accordingly.
    If you don't have an owner's manual for your car, go get one. It explains a lot of things you absolutely need to know, especially about the radio/stereo, seats, computer, engine operation, air system, etc.
    I wouldn't touch the ABS system on any TC unless equipped with several factory service tools and manuals, and I've built complete autos from the ground up. It is not a DIY fix.
  • royslandroysland Member Posts: 1
    I was looking at a 1993 Lincoln Town Car Jack Nicklaus edition with 83,811 miles on it. I've never owned a Lincoln and wanted some input as to what I should be looking for, how reliable a car this is, They are asking about 7800 for the vehicle and wanted to know if this was a good value too. Thanks for any words of assistance
  • dbd34dbd34 Member Posts: 18
    Used Lincolns fare just as well, and usually better than their peers as older cars. Compared to Cadillacs, BMW, Mercedes, etc. they are very good vehicles on the used market. HOWEVER...

    Typically this class of automobile is a poor selection on the used market if you're looking for bang-for-the-buck. They are complex automobiles, with lots of accessories. Even the accessories are more complex in nature than less expensive cars. For example, the air conditioning systems are more complex in their operation than air conditioning on lesser cars. More complexity = higher repair cost due to parts availability, etc.

    If you're not concerned with fully functioning accessories like trip computers, temp control systems, etc. Then the foundation of the Lincoln is as durable as a pickup truck. It is as close to bulletproof as a sedan is going to get.

    I would expect an 83k mi. Town Car to be needing new fluids everywhere, all new rubber and vinyl hoses everywhere, and I'd closely inspect the brake system, cooling system, and fuel system.

    Depending upon the previous owner and available maintenance records, $7,800 for a 7 year-old TC is a bit steep. It better have a very good interior, and excellent records, new tires, etc. There are quite a few used TC's of lower trim line available. I'd be cautious.
  • cats8cats8 Member Posts: 22
    how fast do the 1994 lincoln can go. if you now email me at mkitty@inreach.com
  • mjwhetstmjwhetst Member Posts: 5
    I bought a 91 with the dual exhaust and 4.6L engine. I do not think it has the touring stuff. Has the air suspension in the rear. Had 82K miles, bought it from someone at work I did not know. Anyway, have put over 10,000 more miles on it the last 6 months. It uses a quart of oil every 800 miles. Does not blow any smoke out the tailpipe, took it to a good local shop and they could not figure out where the oil is going (5W30). They did not think it is the valve seals since there is no smoke when starting the car when cold. They checked for leaks and such and could find none. They suggested using 10W30 at a minimum, even 10W-40 or 20W-50. Is that a good idea? I tried the 10W-30 and it burns at about the same rate.
    Is this engine in need of overhauling or should I just keep putting in oil every other tank. Will it damage the valves or valvetrain components by burning this much oil? Runs fine, gets 22MPG highway, less in the winter. Would trying the slick50 stuff hurt anything? Thanks for any input.
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