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Volvo S40

SBK1SBK1 Posts: 1
edited October 24 in Volvo
I am looking for sedans in the 25K range.
Does anyone have any info or opinions on the
upcoming Volvo S40, or other sporty sedans such as
the Audi A4?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 15,472
    I saw an S40 (and V40) at an auto show in January. I really liked that car. Very stylish, great seats and interior. SHould be competitively priced (like a mid range Passat or basic A4) and reasonably powerful. There is also a topic in wagons for the V40/S40. Check it out also for more info.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (daughters college car)

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,200
    I too saw and liked the S40 and V40. If they drive like other Volvos, they'll be great cars. It concerns me that they're built on a Mitsubishi platform, though.

    The Ford/Volvo merger also bothers me. I can just see Explorers rolling off the assembly line with Volvo badges on them (shudder)!

    I don't know how competitively it will be priced. Volvo says "under $25,000" which most likely means "$24,995", and on top of that options will probably include sunroof, leather, alloy wheels, cold weather package, etc.
  • Where did you hear that the S40 and V40 were built on Mitsubishi platforms.

    go here

    www.nextvolvo.com
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,200
    I believe I read it in Car and Driver. The dealer admitted it when I asked him about it.
  • jduttjdutt Posts: 1
    When will these cars be offered in the States? It looks like they've been available in Europe for a couple of years now.
  • rollierollie Posts: 337
    Regarding post #6:

    I believe that the last I read was that they would start arriving in showrooms in August. Given that it's not a new model I wouldn't expect this date to slip much (I saw quite a few of them at the factory in Sweden about a month ago).

    -rdo
    russell.ollie@ibm.net
  • balooo2balooo2 Posts: 8
    Rollie,
    What do you think about the S40 having seen one up close?
    What is Volvo doing for the home market that impressed you must?
    One more question did you happen to see the S90 Royale while in Sweden?
  • rollierollie Posts: 337
    Regarding post #8:

    balooo2,

    I think the 40 series will be very competitive once it arrives this year. Unfortunately, I suspect there will be a new Audi A4 and with the new BMW 3 series (323 specifically), the S40 will be in for a battle in the next couple of years. For me personally, I found the S40 too small for my needs (young family). I thought the design was progressive but didn't really wow me. Oddly, and I'm not a wagon man, the V40 struck me as a much more appealing design. Even though it is a small car it has lots of room in the back because it is a wagon.

    Regarding Volvo's home market, I can say that we get the pick of the litter here in the US. Volvo definitely has less cache in Sweden than in the US. While I was in Sweden I saw 300 and 400 series Volvos (no longer made) that looked like replicas of older Mitsubishis! The biggest advantage that I experienced was the customer oriented service I received. The people at the delivery center bent over backwards to accommodate me. Contrast this with VCNA who you will have a hard time getting to respond to a letter or call. If you have a problem it seems VCNA's job is to ignore your cries for help. I got the feeling that the people in Sweden actually care about their brand.
    Regarding the S90 Royale, I believe the limo that picked me up at the airport was a stretched Royale. Mine was a few years old but a very nice car. I didn't see any of the regular ones that I've seen in pictures.

    -rdo
    russell.ollie@ibm.net
  • balooo2balooo2 Posts: 8
    Rollie,
    Thanks for the for the update.
    Funny you liken the 300 and 400's to a Mitsubishi
    because the word is the S40 shares the mitsubishi
    Charisma's Chasis And the possibility of them being built here in the USA at a under utilized Mitsubishi plant in Normal Ill.I don't know if thats good or bad but the reality of 3 players world wide in the car production biz is looming nearer all the time.
  • kimrokimro Posts: 4
    I have seen the S40 at the Atlanta Auto Show, and am on their mailing list. It is at the top of my list for purchase, assuming the test drive goes OK. The local salesperson has said late August/early Sept. Has anyone heard of colors available?

    The Volvo mailout says $23,000 base, but doesn't mention what is optional. I assume leather is an option. What about CD?
  • a very close competitor to the Audi A4, will steal sales from the Infiniti G20. this car will be seen in suburban U.S. driveways im sure!
  • baronbaron Posts: 1
    Just saw the new 2000 S40 at my Volvo Dealer here in Florida. Looks great! They aren't allowed to let anyone drive this particular car (it's just for show.) They are getting another one sometime next week and I'll be able to test drive that one. Can't wait! I got a brochure with all the specifications and prices.
    160 hp In-line 4 cyl, light pressure turbo
    0-60 in 8.5 seconds
    131 mph top speed
    Braking distance 60-0 mph, 121.4 ft.
    As far as prices go...
    MSRP $22,900
    Destination $575
    Touring Package $1,500 (power driver's seat, AM/FM Stereo with single CD player, premium speaker system, classic leather steering wheel, trip computer)
    Sunroof Package $2,200(Glass sunroof, leather-faced seating surfaces, simulated wood trim, wood gear lever)
    Sports Package $550 (Rear Spoiler, Front Fog Lights, sport steering wheel)
    Cold Weather Package $850 (Dynamic stability assistance, heated front seats, headlight wiper/washer system)
    My only complaint about the car so far are the alloy wheels. They standard ones aren't very sporty looking and the 2 optional alloy wheels choices aren't much better. Oh well.
  • carguy000carguy000 Posts: 55
    I'm just curious. I think the S40 has been out in Europe for about three years already. When will it be redesigned? Will it be redesigned in the next two-three years? Thanks!
  • jottmanjottman Posts: 4
    Maxwell Volvo in Greensboro,NC has a V40 on lot for test drives. I drove it yesterday and it did seem to be a very nice car. I did not think it compared to the handling and ride of my A4. I have been considering the V40, Passat Wagon, or Outback Wagon and have yet to decide. The dealer said delivery would be near the end Sept for a V40.
  • chazchaz Posts: 8
    The 40 does not share platform with Mitsu Just some parts and portions of platform. They are very different and really share a factory in Holland so both save money. Was in factory recently.
  • ssonnetssonnet Posts: 27
    I drove the S40 today. Here are my thoughts.

    What I liked:
    1. The exterior look.
    2. The engine is powerful.
    3. Quiet ride and solid feel.
    4. Center rear headrest and shoulder belt.

    What I disliked:
    1. It felt small inside (it is a compact class).
    2. The fit and finish was mixed. A few panels were not flush and leather work was not first rate.

    What I saw regarding the fit and finish gives me doubts of the vehicles quality. I am also concerned about Fords purchase of Volvo, because anyone who has dealt with Ford service and Ford products knows quality is not job one...
  • FORD's name sticks out like a sore thumb when attached to volvo. could you imagine GM-Lexus?!? it would be smart for Ford to not mess with VOlvo's car-building method. FOrd can do the marketing! i hope these misfit panels were just early-production quirks - BUT they certainly ARENT acceptable, whether this car is a Volvo or a FORD volvo! thanks for sharing your test-drive!
  • ssonnetssonnet Posts: 27
    One more thing I didn't like was the trunk size. It is very small. This vehicle is the Volvo Civic EX.
  • tjt66tjt66 Posts: 3
    I agree with post #17. I was impressed by the power and quietness of the engine. It has plenty of power and pickup at all speeds. The trunk is definitely small. I don't think you could get a set of golf clubs in without lying back one of the seats. (I'll check that out on my next test drive) I was disappointed with the interior finish. There were several exposed screws on the bottom of the dashboard. Overall I was impressed with the car. Every dealer in Houston seems to have a different story as to when they will start arriving for purchase. Only one dealer has received a car for test drives and he received it the day before my drive.
  • ssonnetssonnet Posts: 27
    I forgot to mention the exposed screws, but they did stick out like a sore thumb. It is unforgivable for a car in this class to have exposed screws. What are they thinking???
  • tjt66tjt66 Posts: 3
    When I specifically pointed these exposed screws out to my salesman. He stated "They leave them like that so that it is easier for the service people" Huh?? I told him that my Honda doesn't have any screws like that on the dash. He shrugged his shoulders. I'm between an A4, sport ute(for practicality purposes) and the S40. Or maybe I'll just keep my Honda for another year! :)
  • balooo2balooo2 Posts: 8
    I have not seen or driven the new S40 but I know it has been on sale for a few years now in Europe
    and other Volvo markets. If the fit and finish is not up to par by now thats very disappointing.
    I have a 99 S70 and I'm very happy with the car.
    I've had only one problem and that was the antenna
    on my car and that was corrected promptly.
    I don't know why Volvo waited so long to bring the S40 to the US market but I assume it most certainly has to do with the marketing of the entire line.
    This S70 2000 model year is the last of the boxy Volvo's and the lower end is their bread and butter,they probably don't won't to shock the market with this S80 body style(I've met loyal Bricksters who are not crazy about it,Ilove it!)so to phase it in slowly is not a bad idea.
    Don't be surprised to see an all new look on the S40 by 2002,along with a Volvo SUV.
  • ssonnetssonnet Posts: 27
    I understand that the S40 is manufactured in Belgium by Mitsubishi. It is a joint venture between the Belgium government, Mitsubishi, and of course Volvo. I wonder if this accounts for the mixed finish work.
    I also wonder if this is more of a Mitsubishi than a Volvo???

    tjt66: What model and year Honda do you own?
  • ssonnetssonnet Posts: 27
    Thanks for clarifying. It appears that the fit and finish issues continue past the first couple of years. Have you seen one yet?

    Are you planning on buying an S40?
  • rollierollie Posts: 337
    Regarding post #26:

    I've saw quite a few S40s and V40s when I was in Sweden a couple of months ago. I've since seen a few at Boston Volvo Village as well (they can't be sold until 9/1 from what I'm told).

    I know Volvo made a concerted effort to fix the initial build quality problems with the 40 prior to US delivery but it's too early to know if they were successful. If they attack any problems with the same vigor they went after the initial S80 problems they will be very successful.

    As I just recently bought the S80 T6, and just sold the S70 T5, I don't have need of an additional car yet. If I ever manage to escape from Boston I will need a second car but if my S80 T6 hasn't been destroyed yet I'll probably get the Mrs. the Mercedes ML (now that the quality issues seem to be solved) she likes so I can stop worrying about finding french fries, cheerios, and other items my wife and toddler seem to leave in the car! (Actually, she read a review of the Ford Excrushion this weekend and now she wants one - not while I'm still breathing! I can see us living in the poor house after she flattens a family in a Honda Civic!)

    -rdo
    russell.ollie@ibm.net
  • ssonnetssonnet Posts: 27
    You go through lots of nice cars. Are you driving that many miles or do you just get board quickly?

    Regarding Ford, I owned a Ford Windstar (what a big mistake). I read all these things about American quality catching up with foreign quality (bs!). Ford has no pride in their products. They are out to make money, period. Their customer service and quality is a joke. Read some of the Ford threads if you are interested in horror stories.

    Check out the LX450 or RX300. They are both very nice.
  • our First Drive: 2000 Volvo S40/V40,
    Not Necessarily Married--Volvo Goes for a Younger Crowd, by Brent Romans?

    Bonnie Rick
    Town Hall Community Manager, Edmunds.com
  • rollierollie Posts: 337
    Regarding post #28:

    ssonnet,

    it's a little of both! I put 48k miles on the 850 turbo, 31k miles on the S70 T5, and already have about 7k miles on the S80 T6 in just over 2 months! I've got to try to stop finding excuses to drive this car!

    I must admit that I've liked each car but each subsequent car, especially the S80, has been an improvement over the previous car. I'm hoping to settle down a bit and keep the T6 for 10 years or so. I'll probably get something else to go with it in a couple of years if we move out of the city (the Mrs. wants a SUV - I hate those things!)

    -rdo
    russell.ollie@ibm.net
  • ssonnetssonnet Posts: 27
    Thank you Bonnie. Interesting article.
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