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Pontiac Grand Am

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  • bmarkbmark Posts: 52
    I also have a 2000 Gt. I have had it for almost a year, and now have 17,000 miles. Car is great, had no problems with it at all. I would go with the 93 gas. Any gas is ok, but the car runs better on the 93.
  • lrymallrymal Posts: 105
    Y'all, I want to buy that Neon which was hit by that Grand Am going 40 miles per hour. The poster said the Neon "had only a scuff on the bumper."

    Gosh...
  • lsaukalsauka Posts: 8
    I just got rid of my 2000 Dodge Neon SE. What a huge nightmare!!!!!!!! I should have stayed with a GM car like my daddy always told me. But I didn't and I have the battle scars to prove it.

    Anyway, I bought my 2nd GA GT at the end of July and I love it. Oh yeah, my nephew drives my 94 GA now with well over 100,000 miles. Up until recently there had been no problems. But he is like most teenagers and when the check engine light came on he ignored it. Big mistake, he let the oil run dry and now has to buy a new engine. Live and learn as they say!!
  • napcornapcor Posts: 1
    Hi all,

    My wife has decided to purchase a GA SE1. With the current 0% financing, it fits perfectly into our budget. My question to everyone is this: What kind of profit does the dealership as well as the salesman make in selling a car to someone purchasing the vehicle with a GM employee discount? (My dad works on the assembly line at another GM division - so I can honestly say that he makes the cars.) They gave us a copy of the invoice which matches all of the figures posted on Edmunds. According to all the information they gave us and the research I've done, they will be selling it to us at the invoice price.

    I know there is a holdback of 3% on Pontiacs, but the car has been on the lot since late June so I figure they won't make much from that. I can't find any other rebates out there. If anyone could answer my question or has some insight on why they're so eager to sell it (it is brand new and they even let us keep it for the weekend to decide if we wanted it) while "making no money", please let me know. I figure there has to be some built in profit whenever they have a customer with a GM employee discount.
  • hengheng Posts: 411
    When you find out are you going to try and get some of that profit back? Invoice was good enough for me. I let the dealer make whatever. They were happy and I am happy.
  • lsaukalsauka Posts: 8
    If I am not mistaken, don't you get a GM Supplier Discount? You said your father works for GM and I think that all immediate family members of a GM employee are eligible for this. I took advantage of it and yes you will pay less than invoice and you are still able to keep the rebate or the special financing!
  • lsaukalsauka Posts: 8
    I didn't catch the last part of your comment NAPCOR. Good luck trying to haggle them down anymore then the GM employee discount. I went in on the last day of the month after bickering back and forth all week. The only thing I got was a additional $200.00 off what I had bickered with all week.
  • Has anyone had problems with the 2000 model brake rotors yet? Mine has progressively gotten worse, I bought it in february 2000, love the car, but when im driving, especially at higher speeds, and hit the brakes, the steering wheel shakes so bad, it jars my hands. ive got over 18000 miles on the car already, and suspect the rotors are shot. Ive just seen the 2001 add about the monsoon system in the GA (!@#$%!!!) I should have waited! Any word on the supercharged upcoming model? I will trade mine if the new one has hood scoops.
  • hengheng Posts: 411
    defective brakes syndrome. See previous posts here and in the Alero section. The TSB # is floating around here somewhere.
  • nerssnerss Posts: 43
    My dealer put in bigger rotors when I had them changed and I haven't had a problem since. The new braking design has much of the braking done by the front brakes so the rotors need to be bigger and the pads need to be beefier. I beleive that it was just one size up.
  • donm7donm7 Posts: 1
    I have recently purchased a 2000 Grand Am SE1 and I was wondering if anyone could tell me if I got a fair deal or not? The car had a MSRP of $20015 including destination charges. I bought it for $18515+tax, plus I got 2.9% financing for 60 months (instead of taking $1500 rebate). I went out the door without putting 1 penny down with a payment of $354.01. Was this a fair deal?
  • Hey guys, I need a really big favor, if all those of you how have recently bought 2000 and 2001 cars could give me your VIN it would be a great help.

    Thanks in advance!
  • bmarkbmark Posts: 52
    Why would we want to give our vin #'s? That sounds pretty strange to me.
  • These little ole Grand Ams are one of the better economy cars out there. They will last you forever (100,000 miles) if you take care of them.
  • Has anyone seen, (in spy photos,) the new 2002 Grand Am? I swear it looks like the Pontiac Pirhanna or however you spell it. :) It looks even better now though.
  • nerssnerss Posts: 43
    Koolguy Where did you find the spy photos? I have been hoping for a glance at the new GA since my finacee bought a 99. We are going to be interested in a new one it a couple of years.
  • ....The spy photos in Popular Mechanics new november issue. The one with the U.S. Air force's flying saucer on the front cover. :)
  • I agree! I have a 87 Grand Am that did not have any problems until it passed 135,000 miles since then I've replaced the motor and misc. parts and now have 175,000 on it. I plan on keeping it until it drops.
  • Here is my story. I purchased my 2000 Grand Am GT in Sept. 1999. Since January 2000 I have had nothing but trouble. This car needs to go to the junk yard. I am definatly calling my lawyer and the dealership owes me my money back according to the lemon law. I don't even want another Grand Am or even another Pontiac for that matter. It has been in the shop 8 times now. I have had 4 rentals since June. Including the one I am driving now because my car is at a dealership in another city about 2 hours away. It left me stranded this past weekend and had to be towed to the nearest dealer. I have had problems with the fuel injectors, they have replaced a gasket, it was leaking oil, my service engine soon light is on 24/7, the security light keeps coming on, the cd player was replaced because of skipping, and now for the past month I have been dealing with it not even starting. It will turn over and sounds like it is going to start, but then it stalls out right away. ANYONE ELSE HAVING A PROBLEM LIKE THIS ONE? The dealer even claims to not know what the problem is. Well, this is the third time it is in the shop for not starting. Lemon? I think so. If anyone can give some input about this "not starting" problem, please e-mail me at Katiette22@mediaone.net I appreciate it.
  • lrymallrymal Posts: 105
    We had a 1998 Honda Accord that almost mirrors the same problems: security light, fuel throttle body unit being replaced several times, not starting, service light (solved by a loose-fitting gasoline cap).

    Anyway, it was the Honda's computer. Other than the CD unit and gasket, that almost sounds like the same problem with this 1999 Grand AM GT.

    I have a 1999 Grand AM SE with a V-6 with 46k miles and still no problems other than what I mentioned in earlier messages here in this forum. No brake shutter, no power steering pump issues, nice gasoline mileage, no window scratches. In short, I just had some minor warranty problems. Oh yeah, I replaced those awful Goodrich tires.

    Good car... no real problems.
  • Let me tell you about my experience with the 1999 Grand Am. I purchased a brand new 99 Grand Am SE2 in 1/99. By 9/99, Pontiac agreed to purchase the car back because of the many mechanical problems that I had with the car: 1)three times the rotors warped; 2) the seal around the back window warped off; 3) the fuel sensor gauge failed; 4) the power steering motor pulley pump failed; it took the Dealership three separate service repair dates on this issue to finally discover what the problem was. 5) the door panels peeled off three of the doors. The driver's seat was replaced because it creaked so as to drive me nuts. So, after Pontiac bought the car back, like a DOOFUS I bought another one (thinking I just had a bad car. You know that can happen!) I should interject here that the reason that I decided on the 1999 Grand Am, in the first place, was because I have a 1992 Grand Am that gave me years of faithful service and, while still running, she is on her last breath at close to 280000 miles. Anyway, to continue, I bought the second 1999 Grand Am. Well, the rotors have warped twice, the fuel sensor gauge has failed, the power steering motor pulley pump has failed, the door panels have peeled off two of the doors the speed sensor has failed. The first week of ownership, I noticed that the dashboard was pulling away from the windshield. It took the Dealership a week of days to get that new dashboard on straight and get everything else put back right!. Do you notice that most of the things that failed on the "old" 99 failed on the "new" 99? I have 38K miles on this car from 09/99 to 11/00. It wasn't just a bad car, it is a bad line. All of it has been repaired by the dealer and all under warranty. So anyone thinking about the Grand Am, think twice. The only thing positive that I will say about the Grand Am is that WHEN it is running, it is a fun car to drive.
  • bmarkbmark Posts: 52
    It looks like you just had bad luck with your cars. My family has bought a new pontiac every 2-3 years since 1989. My mom had a 1989 Grand Am SE,no problems with it. My dad had a 94 se and a 97 se again no problems. My mom has had a 93, 97, and a 2000 Grand Prix and the cars had been flawless. I have a 2000 Grand am GT. with 20,000 miles on it. I have had this car for over a year, and have had no problems, I would recommend this car to anyone. I know several people with 99's and their's run fine also. I would say many positive things about this car, and if anyone asked I would tell them to buy one.
  • i feel your pain.

    after experiencing many of your problems, and the ones many others here and elsewhere have posted, i opted to get rid of the junk. (at a big loss)

    i too have had good pontiac experiences, a 97 sunfire for starters.

    the 99 ga is bad, real bad.

    perhaps the 2000+ models have been improved?
  • I've had my '99 Pontiac Grand Am GT1 for over a year and have put 21K on it since I bought it new. With the exception of the leather on the steering wheel peeling, I've had no problems.
    The performance and handling are the absolute best in this price range. I love this car.
    I would recommend it to anyone who doesn't wear panties.
    Reminiscent of the true American muscle machines with safety and reliability added.
  • lrymallrymal Posts: 105
    > I love this car. I would recommend it
    > to anyone

    I have the same feel for my '99 GrandAm with 47k on it (ugh, the mileage keeps rolling upwards! -- What's with THAT???!)

    Makes me wonder what the common denominator is for the "lemon" GrandAms as opposed to the "rose" GrandAms. My GrandAm is treated rather hard with terrible rural East Texas roads and salty Gulf Coastal air. And, driving down in Houston's work hour traffic, complete with pot holes, and 1 1/2 hour stop-and-go traffic doesn't help either. So, I get a smattering of pot hole freeways, and East Texas mud.

    This is a good car. Even the crummy seats (Didn't like them even when they were new) regretfully are holding together. I was sort of hoping they would fall apart after the warranty so I could find something better to put in there. Ah well...
  • nerssnerss Posts: 43
    I have purchased a 6-Disc CD Changer for my finacees 99 GA SE1. It is an Alpine that will go in the trunk, and she still has the stock radio. The question that I have is where to put the remote display with the controls on the dash board. I have the option of mounting it with velcro or it comes with a bracket for in dash installation if they cut a hole. I was wondering if anyone has any ideas where a good spot would be? I know that there aren't too many big, open and flat spots on the dashboard. Any help would be appreciated.
  • Thanks for all the recent positive posts. I was beginning to wonder whether my car was the exception to the rule. My 1999 Grand Am GT has 21K on it. Except for some minor warranty stuff, my car has been great. I am still in love with this car, which says quite a bit. I usually get bored with cars after a year of so, and then start looking for something else. Needless to say I don't keep cars for more than 3 years.

    If this car holds up the way it has, I can see me keeping it for a long time. The car fits me like a glove, and I'm not a small person (6', 200 lbs). It is just plain fun to drive. I still park the car, get out, and stare at the bright red muscle. And with all the options on the car, I'm far from bored. I love the CD stereo and the sun roof. The car tells me when to change the oil and when a tire pressure is low. It has traction control, anti-lock brakes, power everything, and I can out accelerate most cars around town. What else could I ask for?
  • Picked up my new 2001 GT sedan last night. It's a Black beauty. Put about 37 easy miles on it. No sample defects noted. Can't wait to get some miles on it so can really put it through it's paces. Will keep you posted.
    Ink
  • purchased a 2000 ga se. have 14,245 miles and love the car. have had no problems. handles beautifully and gets great gas mileage. only wish the steering was a little more responsive, would recommend this car to anyone.
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    The GA/Alero/Malibu share the same basic platform and are well-known for the rotor warping problem. At least with older cars; it looks as GM made some improvements with the rotors last year or so.

    On the other hand, what you told about Buick Regal looks strange for me. I did not see many complaints concerning its rotors. This car have different design, build on the same W-platform as other bigger mid-size GM cars, like Pontiac GP or Chevy Impala.
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