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This is in Pat_Host's territory now... So Pat, any help on this ?
Or you could put it in the bio section. I think that will show up immediately.
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No, we don't have anything in place to keep people from posting their email addresses, but no one, not anyone, wants to do that. If you provide it through your profile, the spambots and other address harvesters can't get it. In your profile, only registered, logged-in users can see it.
I don’t know the total answer to this but it seems the individual gas engine and electric motor withtin a hybrid system are SAE rated. This doesn’t tell us much because the net power applied concomitantly is what matters. I would like to know how this is calculated but obviously the transmission and electronic input have a lot to do with it. I suppose you are asking if the entire hybrid systems are SAE rated? Good question.
It seems that the way Toyota rates HSD cars is different than the way Honda rates IMA cars, etc.
Yes, some kind of standardization is needed. It is very difficult to compare hybrid system specs at this point. I think the only thing we have to go by is acceleration rates. You can’t get a feel for torque and horsepower by reading manufacturer specs for hybrids. It is a new and convoluted environment we have here.
1 - Those who like to spend (generally risk takers and those who live for today)
2 - Those who don’t like to spend (the security-conscious and frugal)
3 - Everyone in between
There are people who are loaded but will never buy an expensive car. Conversely, there are those who are not so financially endowed but will see to it that they get the car of their dreams.
We all know that cars are not an investment, rather an expense. With cars, I think it come down to one’s personal level of enjoyment and lifestyle. Those who truly enjoy them rather than treat them like public utilities will spend, regardless of how they obtained their money.
“It’s in my nature to spend. My only problem is... I never have anything to spend.”
-Ralph
1. set its clock automatically for DST/ST
2. core a apple
All it needed was as you suggested - logout-and-login
Fixed. Check out my profile...Thx
My wife is a CPA, and one of her firm's client drives around in a $250K Lamboghini. Well she knew the cost of the car cos the client had it in his tax return. One day this client stopped by her office to chat, and my wife asked him why he drives such a high cost-fast depreciating car ? His response: "I am an equity investment advisor, if my customers see me successful (as my car shows) they'll feel more secure entrusting their money in my care".
Sometimes, we are what we drive. Our choice of automobile may tell something about who we are, and our belief system. Success can (often) be correlated to owning a HELM. But clearly there are far too many people stretching themselves to show they too are *successful* or *cool* or *rich* or *wealthy* or *frugal*, or *prudent*, or ...
My LS was a birthday gift. Figured I deserve a lil' pampering for all the hard work I have put into my work. And why not ? If I can afford a Bentley, and already own a huge fabulous home, my kids college savings are there, my nest egg/retirement is rock solid, and the Bentley would not put a huge hole in my pocket otherwise, then I'd buy it in a NY-minute. I believe in the "here-and-now". Enjoy what you have NOW and don't be a slave to $, or don't let your money *own* you. Life's too short....
It would be even lovelier if this forum could include High end luxury marque vehicles in this discussion too!
But since we are more focused on the owners of their cars why dont we begin a disussion on how different education levels affect vehicle choices :confuse:
I have a feeling that the LS will be equipped with a cancer cure (probably as part of a new ultra-luxury package) a great deal sooner than BMW will be able to offer a clock which automatically adjusts for DST/ST. :sick:
There are some pimps on Broadway and 7th Avenue in NYC who haven't graduated from middle school and can barely read, but have pretty good business skills, who happen to be driving LS's, 911's, 7 series BMW's, RR's, Bentleys and S series MB's.
I've seen 'em.
ALG Luxury Brand Residual Value Award
No "emergency strategy meeting" necessary for the Lexicans.
Let me predict it.... Everyone just start shouting "RELIABILITY!!!!!" :P
The awards are presented to the vehicle with the highest projected resale value in each of Kelley Blue Book's nine vehicle categories. In addition, awards are presented to the Overall Top 10 leaders in projected resale value, and, finally, Kelley Blue Book also honors the brand with the best projected resale value across its line of vehicles. Low-volume vehicles and vehicles with a Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price of more than $60,000 were excluded from awards consideration.
Projections and Reality are not always the same !!! How 'bout real-life situations instead of a pie-in-the-sky, wet your pinkie and stick it in the wind consideration ?? Now, why should Lexicans head to an emergency meeting on this superflous award ?
I strongly believe the L will soon do a stealth attack without notice !
Projections are based on up to date reality not on pie-in-the-sky, wet your pinkie and stick it in the wind consideration !
The high resale values reflects the passion/admiration people feel towards the BMW brand. There is nothing scientific about that admiration/passion except that it translates into the highest resale values in the industry! Wet pinkies and wind considerations will not change that fact.
The LS starts at $57,220. Is that excluded? In addition everything else except the LX and SC are well below $60K. The GS is going nowhere and the IS has to prove itself. And the IS with its high price and small back seat is going to be a tough sell IMO. BMW is strong and I believe their 4-year free maintenance is a big part of the reason, not to mention the qualities that make them the ultimate driving machines.
Re-enforces what we already know, doesn't it?
When you talk about high residual value, BMW cars are second to none!
That 4-yr *free* maint is built-in, isn't it ? The ultimate driving machine remains a marketing jargon, albeit a good one since many people actually believe it and live it.
Let's see: Since we are quoting KBB, how 'bout this actual KBB real-world test. We sample two cars, a BMW and a Lexus, in same market space, say the GS300 v 528i. Pick a year, say 2000 MY. Same mileage, about 50K miles. Similar level of features. Which car would you expect to re-sell higher at dealer trade-in value ?
Let's see what KBB says about such a scenario:
2000 528i, Good condition: link title
2000 GS300, Good condition: link title
Hmmmmmm !!!! Which one is higher priced as a used car ???? Note, this is KBB trade-in value.
None of them can compete with Porsche's best.
And frustratingly, no BMW or Porsche, for that matter can core a apple.
2000 528i, Good condition: link title
2000 GS300, Good condition: link title
Hmmmmmm !!!! Which one is higher priced as a used car ???? Note, this is KBB trade-in value.
Among several model years you are selectively choosing among various models just one instance where a Lexus beats a BMW in terms of resalue values.
Seems a bit desperate!
When people throw out links purportedly supporting a theory of theirs, it behoves the reader to actually read what is being linked and understand what it means. So I did what anyone should do - read the document linked. I bet those who threw the links at us may not have read the entire document...
If you can believe some of those photos going around, the new LS will be improved quite significantly in the looks dept.
Now if only Lexus will make a serious attempt to put a bit of fun in the handling dept.
If they do, I will be taking a serious look and test drive.
Seems a bit desperate!
I just picked an example. Rather than casting aspersions on people, why not do your own research, pick any other model year & car combo of your choice and see what you get, eh ? BTW, read Len's post #11420... seems to nail it.
Ahhhhh !!! This is why you gotta understand what is being peddled in these *awards*. Projections and reality are NOT always the same. You should ask those who told us we'll be greeted with flowers in Baghdad...;)
And if nobody can prove the above point then nobody can claim that the residuals of BMWs are highest as a result of far more generous lease subsidies!
BMW of North America, LLC has once again made a strong showing by winning the Luxury Brand Residual Value Award for the second consecutive year.
Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc. continued a strong tradition in the Residual Value Awards winning four individual segment awards...
Mercedes-Benz USA LLC is the winner of this year's Sports Car Segment for the SLK and the CLK has won the Luxury Segment award for the fourth time.
Infiniti, a division of Nissan North America Inc., takes home the Near Luxury Car Segment award for the G35.
Notice the use of *residuals* for BMW and Toyota brands, but *segment* award for others. Notice that there was no single BMW car winning in any segment. How were these awards determined, and over how many years ??? Seems kinda confusing to me what this ALG awards mean, really.
The residuals reflects the overall average of BMW models and it is that average that is highest when compared to other marques.
To find the segment information you will have to access that from ALG itself. The extra detail of segment information will not disprove the overall averages.
Not in any way shape or form is this true and you can substitute whatever brand or car you want for BMW in that quote. But that's what you are supposed to think. That way if you are buying rather than leasing a car with a high residual projected you are in a losing proposition as you are taking the risk on the residualized value. Hpowders nailed it with his post. Bottom line - lease a German car and leave the future price risk with the manufacturer. If you are going to hold a car 8-10 years none of this has any relavance as they all end up at the same place by that time.
Bottom line - lease a German car and leave the future price risk with the manufacturer
OK three questions:
1)So are you saying BMW subsidizes their leases more than Lexus? As I asked in a prior post where is the proof!
2)Are you saying that Lexus has less future price risks than BMWs? I have never seen any evidence of this and would appreciate it if you can tell me where you learned your facts from!
3)Are you saying that the high residuals of BMWs reflects their subsidies and not their popularity? Do you honestly believe that?
Again see Hpowders post - lower than historic retention values and higher than industry standard money factors are as opposite of subsidizing a lease as you can get. You have to understand the whole approach to leasing is strategically different in the case of Lexus and BMW. It could be that Lexus Finance prefers the lessee to make a deal with his dealer on the car and a local bank on leasing reather than running big lease programs. so they throw a non-competitive deal on the table just to say it's there for convenience. Maybe that's why they only run a handful of progreams a year with the December to remember being the big one. My LS is leased from Chase because they had a lower money factor and a 5% higher residual. You could argue that Chase has more confidence in Lexus future prices than Lexus does.
More than a few.
The BMW leases are always the better deal.
Yes. BMW subsidizes its leases and Lexus doesn't except in its "December To Remember" promotion.
Lexus keeps the residual artificially low and because of that, the payments are high.
Many people who lease Lexus vehicles go through Chase.
In one case I know someone who was told point blank by his Lexus salesperson, to do a lease through Chase!
I cant argue that BMW provides better lease deals than Lexus.
BUT those better deals may not only reflect subsidies but also higher anticipated resale values.
Lease deals are not only about subsidies but also about anticipated supply and demand of resales.
The fact that Lexus lease deals are not that good may be the result of lower anticipated Lexus resale values than BMW resale values!
Ljflx,
I know what you are thinking! Citicorp is proof that there is more confidence about Lexus resale values than what Lexus projects itself! Therefore Lexus residuals are lowballed and do not reflect reality.
BUT Citicorp may have more confidence about BMW resales than BMW itself! Citicorp may be more agressive than Lexus or BMW!
BUT Citicorp may have more confidence about BMW resales than BMW itself! Citicorp may be more agressive than Lexus or BMW!"
I can guarantee you a bank will base retention value on past history not on some bubbly enthusiasm of future prices put out there by the manufacturer or future credit scores put out there by you. Can you imagine a bank lending you money based on your future projections of income rather than your prior year tax return, past income history and past credit performance??
Always leased since 1993.
If I were to change to the LS which could happen in 2007, I would buy one.
The car has great long-term reliability (which BMW's don't) and retains its value better than most. I would not be looking to dump it after 3 years.
This car is as close to an investment as a depreciating asset can be!