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Mazda 626

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  • windowphobe6windowphobe6 Posts: 765
    But I've been gone for three weeks, at least partly because my 626 (2000 LX, four-cylinder, automatic) wasn't getting enough exercise.

    So I've just run up 4,444 miles on the clock through the eastern half of the US, and the only problem I had was external - some flipping meteorite or something came smashing its way into my windshield. Needless to say, it wasn't in front of the passenger's seat.

    Otherwise, smooth sailing all the way, and 29.2 mpg to boot. (Best tank was an improbable 32.7.) Top speed was kept to a modest 92 mph. And the A/C coped with Texas heat and Louisiana humidity with aplomb. I can think of one or two instances where it might have been nice to have the extra 40 ponies from the V6 at my disposal, but so what else is new?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,527
    Don't you worry, I definitely noticed you were MIA. I was wondering who, if not you, was going to answer all of these questions since I have not had a single problem with my '99 and, therefore, have no experience fixing them. If its not a general mechanics question, then I'm at a loss.

    Now get to work! ;)

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    ...can go a long way. I was in the process of buying/leasing a 626 a couple of weeks ago, but decided to hold onto my Protege ES a while longer until I catch up with depreciation (and the new 215-220hp 626 comes out). However, one of the dramas I was going through was selecting a color. I liked the lighter colors, but those body color window frames/pillars drove me insane!! I think they totally break up the lines of the car. Why can't Mazda paint them black like they used to? So, I decided to get creative in PhotoShop and make them black. But, I also decided to add a subtle two-tone paint scheme. The car is a Silver Frost 2001 626 ES-V6 (press picture), which I have added the black window frames/pillars along with a steel blue two-tone. I think if Mazda did something like this (at least just the black window frames/pillars), they would sell a lot more 626's.


    http://photos.yahoo.com/jstand6


    Click on the link above and then click on the "Mazda" album. I have also included the original picture to compare to. Let me know what you think!! I really believe Mazda should do it!!


    Hey windowphobe6!! WELCOME BACK!! It sure was quiet here without you!!

  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    but I think the painted pillars look more elegant. You may see something different with the '03 version as it's body style is much more sporty.

    We should start thinking up names for 626 replacement so Mazda can save some $ for a REAL market launch.

    :)
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,527
    i like the painted pillars, too. Never liked the black look. Seems cheap to me.

    215-220 hp?? Did i miss this discussion? I am intrigued. Tell me more. And tell me that there is a manual tranny involved!

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Jerry: nice work, indeed. Looks a lot like the 1995s.

    New names? Well, there is the MP3, the MX-5, the and the RX-08 (though I'd just call it RX-8). So it could be called the RX-6 if it's sporty enough.

    -juice
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I think it looks much better black! It really accents the silver color and adds a sporty touch. Most cars look better with the black window trim and the 626 is no exception.
  • mrdetailermrdetailer Posts: 1,118
    My 1991 has black window posts like that and it makes an excellent contrast.
  • windowphobe6windowphobe6 Posts: 765
    I have a sneaky suspicion that what Mazda wants to do is to go full alphanumeric in Acura style. Of course, have you looked at a 626 grille lately? Sure looks like an Acura to me. :)

    They could always bring back Capella. It's melodious, it has historical value, and in true Mazda fashion (only one N in "Millenia", only one accent mark in "Protegé"), it's spelled funny.
  • thompsdrthompsdr Posts: 1
    I'm about ready to purchase a 626 LX-V6 I/ luxury package + cassette for 17900 before taxes and tags. I calculated the factory rebate at $1480 so I thought this was a pretty fair deal. However, after reading jstandefer's post (on July 16) I'm not so sure... Can any one verify that his $2500 estimate of the factory rebate on the LX-V6 is for real? If it is, I'm probably paying too much for the car!
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    I read somewhere that the spelling on Millenia was done that way to keep the length down. As far as I'm concerned, it just pisses off english teachers.

    :)
  • Hi all,

    I am looking for 2001 Mazda 626 .... whats the best deal in SC?. ur opinions about this car's advantage&disadv are more than welcome. In which year the 2001, 626's body style introduced?

    Thanks,
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think it was 98 or so.

    The best advice I can give is to get the V6. It is a sweet power mill, you will never regret having it.

    The 4 banger is fuel efficient, but beware of the auto tranny on the 4 cylinder models. They have supposedly been improved, but I'll believe that when I see long-term results.

    -juice
  • windowphobe6windowphobe6 Posts: 765
    1998 was the first model year for this generation; there was a facelift in 2000.

    The four-cylinder is very frugal, but slow off the line, especially if it's shackled to the automatic. (At highway speeds, no problem; it's getting there that tries one's patience.) The V6 is happier and not all that much thirstier, although it prefers the high-octane stuff. And shed a tear for the poor shlub who has to sit in the middle of the back seat. :)
  • bozco12bozco12 Posts: 10
    i had bought a 2000 626 (lx-v6, auto) february of this year.thought I was getting a great deal. Now Ive taken it back for AC problems. The AC is extremely weak. It only gets cold when I turn it on to recylced air. Even then its not on par w/ my Honda Oddyssey. If it is not on recycled air it goes btwn slightly cool air and hot air. I live in Houston and understand that it takes a while to get cold due to the heat. Has any else had experience w/ this? The dealer has replaced valves two times already.
  • rotarykidrotarykid Posts: 191
    why would you want outside air that is hot when using your a/c? Do you leave the windows open in your house when the central air is on? The idea behind air conditioning is not only to cool the air, but to remove moisture so it can stay cool. Allowing the outside humid air in defeats the purpose. Use the recirculated air for maximum cooling. And by the way, your odyssey has nothing on the mpv (dont even tell me about the horsepower, cuz nobody is racing with their kids in the van)- it runs a close second though......
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, I was a bit surprised to see the MPV rated far better than the Odyssey in reliability. The windows that roll down are another big plus, but the Ody is bigger and more powerful.

    -juice
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    Yes, the Ody is bigger and more powerful, but it is 800 pounds bigger and the power advantage isn't that much. However, the 2002 MPV (due in October) will have the Tribute's 3.0L DOHC V6 with 200-205hp. Then the only disadvantage the MPV will have is being smaller. But, some people would consider that to be an advantage, and those are the people Mazda is marketing to.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    200hp sounds like a good recipe. I really like the interior, especially the middle and rear seats. They one-upped Honda because the middle seats slide apart even while you are sitting in them. Funny, but the Honda commercial actually shows the dad getting out of the car to separate his daughter from a boyfriend.

    -juice
  • teigen1teigen1 Posts: 4
    Greetings all, have read all the posts here. Contemplating a 5spd 4cyl 98 626. I am coming from a 94 Ford Ranger with 112hp pulling way north of 3000 pounds, so I expect the 5/4 would feel fun and quiet to me. A post awhile back here said that the V6 gets leaky headgaskets around 100K. Also that it goes through oxygen sensors. Can any of you tell me of the 4 also has head gasket problems at 100K or so, and if it goes through oxysensors at the same rate? I.E., is the 4cyl more/less/same reliability as the 6? Is the 4 THAT noisy? I would be stretching my budget to buy one of these anyway, and the better gas mileage and expected lower insurance for the 5spd 4 vs. the auto 6 might be the key to me justifiying it to myself. If I got a 5spd 6 I'd just collect tickets or pancake m'self...TIA.
  • teigen1teigen1 Posts: 4
    PS to above note. Local used car dealer gets lease returns direct from mazda, so he has about 6 or 7 98 626's now. One of them is a 626 ES 5spd...it has 43k miles on it, but they note that the speedo had to be replaced at 38K, so the speedo reads 8800 miles. So they say that the car has to be sold as "TMU", which I suspect means True Mileage Unknown. They are offering the car for 11,800. Any info on whether the 'tmu' is a really bad situation? I would hope to drive the car to above 100K myself. Otherwise, is that a good price?

    TIA again.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    A vehicle that's TMU (your definition is correct) immediately gets slashed on trade-in. I would stay away from any vehicle that is TMU. How do you know that vehicle doesn't have 100,000 miles on it? I am surprised. Here in California, I believe it is illegal for a dealer to retail a vehicle in TMU status.
  • Actually, the head gaskets seldom give way on either of these engines. What gets leaky is the valve-cover gasket, and you can usually spot the weeping either around the edges or in the spark-plug wells. A far cheaper fix.

    Both of these engines have a growl, though the V6 is generally quieter at most RPMs. The four does start to get noisy as you drop into the right side of the tach, but I consider it just an excuse to announce "Zoom Zoom" and press ahead.

    I drove from Charleston (SC) to Austin (TX) a week ago and never noticed any weakness in the A/C.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    If you find a TMU car, just assume it does have 100k more miles than shown. Then you decide if you want a car with that many miles on it.

    -juice
  • teigen1teigen1 Posts: 4
    Thanks for info, I'll avoid the TMU. IF anyone cares, its in ohio. Anyway, once again, is there any info/feel for durability of the 4 cyl vs. the 6 cyl? Does the 4 cyl have leaky valve-cover gaskets as the 6 does? And does it go through oxygen sensors as the 6 does?

    Thanks
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'd bet the engine will last far longer than other components, like water pumps, starters, stuff like that. Nowadays it's rarely the engine itself.

    -juice
  • teigen1teigen1 Posts: 4
    Ok, then does anyone know, are the starters, waterpumps, etc, the same on the 4 as the 6? I guess I always used to hear things like "A four has to run harder than a 6, and so won't last as long". So I wondered if there was any judgement here about 4 vs. 6 for 100000+ miles. I would probably buy a 98 or 99 with 35-50k, and drive it to 135-150 k... I've been told that the 2.3l 4 in my 94 Ford Ranger is in fact a Mazda engine. It has 123K on it and is purring. OF course, I switched to synthetic oil when I bought it.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Honestly, gas is a small portion of your total cost of ownership. We have our V6 running on regular, so the difference is cost is not that much. The difference in power is, IMO. It's basically adequate vs. fast.

    Let's say you get 24mpg in a V6, driving 12000 miles per year. With gas at 1.70, that's $850 per year.

    A 4 banger may get about 27mpg, less if you have to flog it to keep up with the V6's pace, and even then it would cost $756.

    So that's $94 per year, or 26 cents a day for happiness. Even using premium at 20 cents extra, the difference is still less than a can of soda pop each day.

    This time Pepsi loses the challenge. Get the V6.

    -juice
  • skibry1skibry1 Posts: 174
    Our "Freeport" took us to and from the sunshine
    state quite nicley. Some real world numbers for
    a Doubleought 4banger with a clutch. The first
    tank was 32.5 mpg and increased to 34,which was
    the best. We left in the AM with the sunroof up
    and a window open and no AC yet. Later we chose
    to alter our interior enviornment with no
    appreciable lose of mpgs. At .04 per mile we had
    more spending money which made the missus real
    happy. This trip just reenforced our decision about the purchase of an outstanding auto.
    Thumbs UP Bryan
  • korchmakorchma Posts: 12
    Hello!
    My factory warranty for 626 (2000) is about to expire and, naturally, I was wondering if it's worth to buy an extended one (like Warrantybynet or Warrantygold).
    Anybody has an experience with those or similar services?
    Annually I do approx. 22k highway miles and I have auto 4 cyl in my car (that I love a lot).

    I'll appreciate any feedback !

    Thank you!
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