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Volvo S70

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  • redkey1redkey1 Posts: 270
    Hi, I have the opportunity to buy a '98 s-70 base auto w/30K off of my aunt's lease (she's buying a BMW 325 wagon for the dog). The buyout is $13K. Is this a good deal? Edmunds lists trade on this car as about $18-19K but I am wary of the problems I've read about. I don't think she has had many problems with it and it has always been dealer serviced. Or I could just keep my '89 240 w/ 126K and broken A/C!
  • If you buy the 98 S-70, better keep the 89 240...as a spare.
  • I think you should buy the car. The price is excellent, and you know the previous owner (and how well she cared for the car). I've had my '98 S70 for 8 months now and have had only very minor issues with it (two bulbs and a check engine light). There have been some real problems posted here, but I think there are a lot of happy S70 owners out there as well.

    Even if you don't want the car, I'd exercise the purchase option because you could probably resell it for more, depending on the factory options you have.
  • godeacsgodeacs Posts: 481
    keep in mind CR rates them as "used cars to avoid" due to electrical and brake problems....
  • rickpctrickpct Posts: 71
    Looking at a used S70 purchase and wanted to get feedback from S70 owners that have owned other volvos in the past - 850's and 740's. I have sensed that the S70 is a somewhat problematic car, but I also wanted to know if you think the S70 is a solid build car that will be durable over a 10-12 year period.

    I currently own a 1991 740 - with 126K miles - it's rock solid - yes it's had some occasional problems but it is solid and i know I can get 250K miles on it.

    Any input/insight appreciated.
  • I've been around more than a few high mile Volvo's. I have a customer who owns a jewelry business in New Mexico that as of December '00 logged 316,00 on his 850GLT. Since the S70 is very similar, I would expect that a well maintained one could be expected to duplicate that.
  • Rick,
    See my post in the "meet the members" topic in the Volvo owners club for my Volvo experiences, spanning nearly 19 years.
  • rickpctrickpct Posts: 71
    thx for the input.
  • My wife and I are thinking of adding another car to the garage that already has a Volvo 240 and obviously by my user ID a BMW.
    One of the local (“try to guess where we get our late model cars”) lots is advertising a 98 S70 T5 with a five speed tranny for $19k. Since I haven’t seen the condition of the car or know the mileage and history, I don’t know whether $19k is a good price or not but I do intend to check it out.
    What should I know about this car before I spend my time on it? What are the 70 series show stoppers?
    I’d like to know of any major items that would fall into the following categories:

    1) Likely to cost us over $500 to get fixed

    2) Things that have been known to happen to the S70 that are urgent enough to keep it off the road (in the shop) until it is fixed

    3) Things that have been known to happen that are beyond a “do-it-yourself”er’s ability to take care of or diagnose without special tools.

    The wife and I have long been lured to the looks of these cars but I’ve heard many horror stories about the S and V series cars. I wonder what might be the reason this car is on such a lot.

    I’m lured by possibility of me soon driving a seemingly rare *5-spd* T5 sedan but don’t want to walk onto the lot blind to what should concern me.

    Thanks
  • godeacsgodeacs Posts: 481
    what's with all the "spurious" characters on your post? Very hard to decipher....
  • Drats

    Looks like I forgot that my quotation marks and apostrophes are not compatible with this forum. Either that or its the parenthesis. Sorry

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  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Looks like you might have used MS Word to compose that post? Microsoft uses non-standard ascii codes for some special characters (ha! non-standard, imagine that!), and the Web Crossing software can't deal with them.

    You can use MS Word to compose a post and then paste it here without those oddities if you turn off "smart quotes" - you should be able to find the way to do this by using the Help feature in Word. (I know that the problem is with apostrophes, but I've been told this is still the way to fix it.)

    Hope this helps.

    Pat
    Host
    Sedans Message Board
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,517
    is it on a volvo lot? It so, the extended warranty should be part of the deal and curb your worries over mechanical issues.

    As far as the price, as long as the miles are within reason (i'd say 40K or lower) and its not a bizarre color or have damage or anything, then that's a good price.

    I was looking only a couple of months ago and didn't find any for that cheap. One that I did see at $20,700 was in horrible shape and had about 45K miles on it. The sticks seem to get beat up more than the autos. The 3 manuals that I looked at were all in far worse shape than the 4 automatics I drove (and I ended up buying one of the autos as a result). That and I didn't get along with Volvos idea of a manual transmission. ;)

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • rjetterjette Posts: 1
    I have an 850(1996 with 63,000 miles) and went to look at the 2001 and 2002 S70 and XC. The salespeople of course said how they great they are. They ride nicely and are safe. Then I checked the Town Hall. It is replete with experiences similar to those I have had with my 850. Number one is that Volvo customer service does not care. Numbers two through . . . are blown transmission seal at just over 50,000 miles, steering racks, brakes, light bulbs, drained battery--all kinds of stuff that they can't seem to get right after several years. Thanks for your information!
  • godeacsgodeacs Posts: 481
    There is no 2002 S70 that I'm aware of....assume you mean 2001 S70 and 2002 XTC....
  • I can't recall seeing one without it but I'm still looking...

    I was hoping for a 'stealth' version :)
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,517
    mine doesn't have it.

    Spoiler, leather, auto tranny, winter package, and sport suspension are all options. Yeah, usually they are fully equipped, but the one I found and bought had no spoiler and no sport suspension (i wish it had the suspension, but couldn't turn down such a clean vehicle for that).

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • I have a 1995 850 Turbo. Volvo North America was terrible with regard to the tire problems (16-inch wheels & low profile tires were a disaster), and as a result they lost a class action lawsuit. I got a $500 check from them, which covered about one-third of my costs. But they did replace my A/C compressor out of warranty.
  • I can appreciate your comments on a firm ride. I own a 1998 S70 and it took some getting used to the ride. Tire pressure is critical--I run about 30 psi in all tires. Also, I downgraded to a H rated tire which is quieter and smoother riding than the V rated Michelins that came on the car. Handling is not quite as good, but overall a better match for me.
  • I have always kept my tires at 36 psi (cold) on my '83 240 wagon, and subsequently, on my '97 850 and my '00 S70. That's what Volvo recommends. I've been under the assumption that lower tire pressure would result in faster wear. Am I wrong?
  • I am approaching 30000 miles and will need the first service since I bought the car. I suspect my brakes will be due. I suppose that they will do other routine service ( I have been changing oil/filter, monitoring fluids etc). My door panel covering is seperating at the armrest, the cup holder is broke in the armrest, and my trunk remote release is not consistant. Will they cover the door panels? What can I expect this service to cost me, about? Any suggestions?
  • jrosasmcjrosasmc Posts: 1,704
    How reliable are the automatic transmissions (any type) in the 850/S70 series? Will they last a very long time before needing replacements or rebuilds? I have an original '93 850 and the tranny is still very smooth and solid; nothing is wrong with it.
  • dparesdpares Posts: 29
    Does anyone know how the lemon law works...especially in NY?.. Thanks for any info,

    Don
  • I have a '97 850 and a 2000 S70, both with auto. The 850 has 70,000+ miles on it and the transmission is fine. I change the fluid about every 20,000 miles. The S70 transmission is fine too, so far, but the car still has less than 20,000 miles on it. For what it's worth, we used to have a '95 Cavalier (don't laugh) that we bought used with 23,000 miles on it and drove until it had 167,000 miles on the odometer. No problems with the auto transmission there either ...
  • lflowerslflowers Posts: 155
    I'm a regular poster on the Chrysler 300M forum here at Town Hall. I have a friend who has a 1999 volvo S70. He needs to purchase new tires soon and has been having a problem finding tire choices other than the original equipment Michelins for his car. The stock tire size on his car is 195/60R15 and that is evidently an unusual size. He has been relatively happy with the original equipment tires but would like some other choices and/or recommendations from other Volvo owners. Any ideas or suggestions?
    Lynn Flowers
    McKinney, Texas
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    195/60R15s are not unusual size tires. There are many choices out there. Tell your friend to log on to www.tirerack.com That website can tell you all sorts of good info about different tire brands and they have the best prices around. He can stick with Michelin or go with Goodyear, Bridgestone, Pirelli, Dunlop, Yokohama, etc. I personally favor Dunlop, though Bridgestone, Pirelli, and Yokohama are good tires too. I find Michelins to be very overpriced and overrated. There are as good or better tires out there for less money.
  • esp63esp63 Posts: 27
    I just replaced the OEM tires(30k, shame on you Volvo!) on my '99 so that I can turn it in when the lease ends. I found 2 choices at BJ's wholesale club. BF Goodrich Touring TA's were around $68 each installed. Michelin MXV(?) 4's were around $113 each installed. The aspect ratio of 60 (195/60/15) is a little harder to find and a little more expensive(supply and demand...). I went with the BFG's but only because they were less expensive and I won't get much use out of them before turning the car in. They are noisier and more squirmy than the Michelins. I have Michelin X-one's on my van and they are quiet and wear very well. TireRack is a good source for tires and the consumer ratings/comments can be very helpful when it comes to making a selection.

    BTW, I just leased an s60 2.4t and it's even better than the s70. The interior space is only slightly tighter, the ride and handling is far superior, the seats are superb.
  • burnsmr4burnsmr4 Posts: 318
    Hello,

    I'm a first-timer in this discussion. I have questions about a 1998 Volvo S70 with the normally aspirated 2.4L engine. It's an automatic with 68K miles. If you can help out, I'd appreciate it.
    • Question 1: "Volvo" approved coolant
      According to the user manual, the car requires "Volvo" approved coolant, as opposed to plain ol' Prestone or another brand. I was told by a dealership that the "Volvo" coolant had different levels of silicone in the formula for better compatibility with the engine. Can anyone verify this or tell me which name brand coolant I can use in lieu of the "Volvo" approved stuff?


    • Question 2: Headlight wipers
      Why don't the headlight wipers work? I though they were supposed to activate when you pull the wiper stalk on the steering wheel forward to wash the windshield. I checked, and the headlight wipers don't budge. I don't think they've ever worked.
    Again, I'd appreciate any help you can give me with these questions.

    Later,
    burnsmr4
  • javadocjavadoc Posts: 1,167
    Well, I don't know about the Volvo "approved" coolant, but I had mine flushed at my independent Volvo wrench in the fall and he just used Prestone. I suspect if you're under warranty, it'd be prudent to use whatever Volvo approves.

    For your question about the headlight washers... you are correct that they should operate when you use the windshield washer squirters. The motors sometimes go out on the wipers and need to be replaced. I replaced the passenger side one on my 854 T5 last summer, for a cost of $115 and it took about an hour. It wasn't very hard and I imagine it's very similar in the S70 cars. Have you checked the fuses? If they're good, then I'd suspect the motors. When mine went out, it made some noise. I could activate the washers, and with the car running, walk up to the headlight and hear the wiper motor wirring away, trying to go. The gears strip, it seems.

    Hope this helps.

    /java
  • aranaran Posts: 1
    hi Volvo owners,
    we are looking into buying a S70 but am not sure after reading a variety of complaints from few site message boards - would like to hear from you all if there is another model in the 2001 that is better than s70..

    thank you,

    aran
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