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though I must admit there ads appealed to me and my 20-somethings.
I heard somewhere that Mitsu forecasted 100,000 galant units this year do you know where they are in that?
thanks sean
mitsu just doesn't make enough presents in the market, I live about 60 miles from the Mitsu plant in Illinois.
but dont see to many mitsus here, but lately alot more endeavor suvs
I have not received 1 recall for my galant....does anybody know If a recall is only safety related or does it include non-safety issues? thanks sean
Any thoughts or comments? Is this a decent vehicle? Any problems I should be aware of?
To answer the first part of your question fleet sales drive down prices because if a vehicle is selling to excessively to fleets its basically not in demand. As far as Camry and Accord go the Camry fleet sales account for 12% of its sales while fleet sales only account for 2% of Accord sales. Also, Honda and Toyota do not have to use as many rebates to get Camry's and Accord's off their lots as Mitsu's does to get Galants off their lots. Although I have read of late Toyota discounts per car have gone up drastically to compete with the Domestic Big 3 discounting. If Mitsu just put better interior plastics and fixed the front end look of the Galant a little bit I think that would help sales alot. I;m interested with Mitsu does with the next generation Galant.
This Galant carries a 3.8 Mivec V-6 running 260 hp coupled with a 6 speed manual transmission. It also has tuned Ralliart exhaust, Brembo 4 piston brakes & numerous other ground effects.
Anyone hoping to see something like this on the market...Please raise your hand.
and the alero was a car i was considering before i got my galant, glad i didn't this thing is nasty for a 04? car, decent but nothing special, GM sells them like crazy, low price i assume like cavalier.decent cars but Old-tech by the time they were introduced,already outdated 1st year in. hope mitsu turns it around, There problem wasnt realy quality/durablity it was recognition in the brand, hyndai was well known for extremely competitive prices but low quality product, Not anymore. You can comfortably buy a hyndai and drive many confident miles. Ive gotta get my windows tinted, +rims..Im riding on some [non-permissible content removed] now. later sean
Originally I was going to get a Dodge Stratus, but after seeing a few of their auctions on eBay and autotrader, and almost getting one, I have decided to look at others, and I have looked at most midsize sedans, but I have never looked at the Galant before, and now it looks like a better choice overall, in looks, features, and its safety is about the same as the Stratus, but the cost is cheaper.
Anyway, my question is what would be the best value on a Galant? I'd like to get a 2000+, and by looking on eBay and autotrader, I primarily see 2002-03 ES' going for about $7800 as the listed price (however, I'm sure the owner would go down). There's one that is a 2003 ES with 44000 miles in Lake City (near Seattle, where I live), for $7950 as the listed price. How low would I have to get this person to sell it for, for it to be a good deal for the money? There are some others on eBay which are GTZ, and they sell for more, however, there is one with 79000 miles, 2001, for an asking price of $7850 - but, it is in Illinois, so I would have to ship it.
I like the front on the 2003s the most, but I really don't care about that much because they all look good. What should I try to go for - or should I go with one of those above?
EDIT: Here's the ES: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=172356951&dealer- _id=1393758&car_year=2002&make=MIT&distance=300&m- ax_price=8000&model=GALANT&advcd_on=n&end_year=2003&a- mp;min_price=0&certified=n&address=98110&search_type=- used&advanced=n&start_year=2000&color=&cardist=11
And the GTZ: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4509048169&ssPageName=STRK:MEDW:IT
I think he'll also do better reliability-wise, and if Mitsu is still around, save some money on maintenance (free for 3 years) and repairs.
Good luck!
engines and trannys in for regular maintnance items, and also stated toyota and honda quality has gone down in recent years, and sees more tranny and head gasket repairs on those then the early 90's models, While they are all good cars mechanical reliability is no better or worse with any. remember that mitsu powertrains are still developed and made in japan and exported here to the illinois plant, its not like your buying a chevy corsica. imho. sean
Alright getting back to the Galant here...the crash tests on the 05 Galant are awful good. I wonder if the cuurent Galant will see a mid cycle refresh for the 06 or 07 model year. Last time Mitsu did a refresh mid cycle on the last galant was for 02: its 4th year of the last generation Galant bodystyle. 1999-2001 Galant had the chrome grille on the front end while the 02-03 Galant's had the beak on the front end. In conclusion we will probably see a mid-cycle refresh for the 07 model year for the Galant then right?
By the way, I'm a bit puzzled by all the anti-Mitsu sentiment I'm seeing on the net. By reading some forum posts, you'd think they were selling rebadged Yugos. The Lancer could use a refresh, but other than that I don't see anything too negative about any of Mitsu's current products. I think there is a bit of a pile-on effect going on because of the gloom-and-doom news articles that have been written about the situation. People need to stop ranting and get a grip, IMHO.
-Andrew L
Regarding the Accord...I also looked into the Accord and Altima when I purchased the Galant back in 1999. The Accord was expensive to insure and the Altima was not as responsive as I had been led to believe. Recently, a couple of friends have had serious early mileage tranny problems with their Accords and some of my friends have had some serious alignment and engine problems with their Altimas. Problems like these were UNHEARD of from these car companies only a few years ago.
As far as my Mazda, it is almost 100% Japanese parts content and had a phenomenal reliability record. So far, I can't complain about its performance! However, the new Mazda 3's that replaced the Protege are somewhat problematic...and my plans to replace my Protege with a M3 hatchback have been put on hold after reading the forums and personally test driving one. I wasn't impressed.
In closing, if the new Galants are only half as good as mine was, you should have a great car that should stand the test of time. Good luck with your purchase.
That may be true, but where are the sales numbers? The domestic market (where talking Japan) for Mitsu is horrible. They have been plaque by scandal after scandal. The only thing keeping them a float are the Japanese banks (with the unofficial blessings of the Japanese gov't.) They are not selling enough cars here or over there to keep them out of the red. Like I said, I own one, and the facts are the facts. The competition is brutal, and there is not anything on the drawing board that will sell in enough numbers to help. My prediction is that they will join a long list of car companies who couldn't make it in the North American market. I give them no longer than 5 years, and that may be too hopeful!!
-Andrew L
I would keep the car. I think it's very, very unlikely that Mitsu will leave the US market. And even if they do, the parts and warranties will not just disappear. Heck, even Daewoo owners can still get their cars serviced, and that company completely collapsed. If you like the car and there's nothing wrong with it, keep it.
I actually like wheel covers because I'm in the hubcap business. I sell center caps for alloy and styled wheels too, but wheel covers are just cooler :-) There is a wide range of styling possible with wheel covers and it doesn't make sense to call them ugly in general, just because the '04 Galant's look like trash can lids. Here are a few much better looking ones:
'05 Nissan Altima
'05 Mazda 6
Even the ones on the previous-gen Galant were not too bad:
'03 Mitsubishi Galant
Compare to:
'05 Mitsubishi Galant
I have no idea why they settled on such an awful design. It's not like it would cost more to mold the same plastic in a different shape.
-Andrew L
The Sandman :-)
"honda and some others use to bolt there hubcaps behind the lugs, seems like a cheap good idea."
Yeah, the bolt-on covers do work well if you install them correctly. It's amazing how many people pound them down over the lugs and then lose them all. As the saying goes, make something idiot-proof and they will make a better idiot!
Actually, I find that about 90% of hubcap losses happen because people install the caps wrong...break the clips, strip out the locking nuts, etc. That goes for wheel center caps too...they make up about half my business these days. I usually recommend that people take their hubcaps off before taking the car for service and put them back on later, to be sure it is done properly and not by some mechanic who is in a hurry.
Re Malibu: The new one is kind of weird looking, especially the front. It almost looks good, but not quite. GM can't quite seem to figure out what the styling theme for Chevy is supposed to be. The Cobalt looks completely different from the Malibu (but equally mediocre, IMHO).
-Andrew L
The Cobalt is the replacement for the Cavalier. 2005 is the last model year for the Cavalier (I think it has already gone out of production; they might be still cranking out some in Mexico).
Spinner caps: Whoever thought of that was pretty clever, but I think they look kind of ridiculous. Also, most of the generic caps from discount stores fit very poorly.
-Andrew L
During a shareholder meeting in Japan a shareholder said "It's like the Titanic. The rats are leaving this sinking ship. Not only the rats but also the cats and the cockroaches".
A company spokesman said the Mitsubishi's only salvation may be to mimic Isuzu of America's business plan, where dealers dealers shortly will only have one model, a rebadged Chevrolet truck. Ha-ha. A little black humor, there!
Like I said....5 years tops!!!
You know, if everyone had thought like that, the following car companies would be out of business today:
Hyundai
Kia
Subaru
Mazda
Nissan
Suzuki
Volkswagen
Chrysler
Every one of those makers went through a major financial and product crisis sometime in the last quarter-century, and every one of them pulled through. Mitsu has a new Eclipse, a new pickup truck and a new Lancer coming within the next year. Why write them off as unsaleable junk before you've even seen them?
-Andrew L
Go over to "The News and Views" Board-
Under "You are the Mitsubishi Marketing Manager".
I'm sorry Hubcaps---it really, really does not look good! I own a '03-it may be an orphan soon, and there goes the resale. (Worse than it already is!!)