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  • sales2010sales2010 Posts: 33
    Thanks for the replies. I will look more into the seating position.
  • tundradudetundradude Posts: 588
    77 Corolla DX - 2 door - 191,000 before it was sold - had in family for 15 years - replacement 72 Landcruiser (which was a bad decision)

    85 Corolla SR5 - 2 door - It has 110,000 on it when my friend was wanting to buy it. - had 2 years = replacement was the next one listed

    89 Corolla GT-S - 2 door - 150,000 when sold - Had for 10 and a half years - Sold to another friend which later sold it to another friend - Should have never sold it, but IMO the best Corolla ever made - replacement was 91 Celica GT HB

    95 Corolla DX - 4 door - currently has 215,000 and have owned for over 10 and a half years - still on original clutch

    And all of the Corollas had manuals with the first one being a 4 speed. Had to say that after reading the manual vs. automatic heading.

    1968 - Corolla Introduced with 1.2
    1975-1979 - 2nd generation with new 1.6 (69 HP for year 77)(in addition to 1.2 for base) for DX and SR5 models - 4 and 5 speed manuals with 3 speed autos. - 2/3/4/5 door options
    1980 - 3rd generation - now has 4 round lights instead of 2 since its inception - 2/3/4/5 door options - new 1.8 (73 hp - memory)added in addition to previous 1.6
    1982 - the front headlights are now square (4)
    1983 - last year of 3rd generation - new 1.6 engine (70 hp)- SOHC
    1984 - 4th generation - half of the models are RWD and half are FWD, 5 door HB replaces wagon - 2/3 doors get pop up headlights, all models get square headlights (2) - two tone interiors was the fad at the time - LE introduced
    1985 - Corolla GTS comes out with 1.6 112 hp - DOHC and fuel injection - the first Corolla to have it - readlines at 7500 rpm - the special LE limited was top model for 4 doors
    1986 - FWD models get projected headlamps - RWD models get black-out treatment - lower 1.6 now makes 73 hp
    1987 - no 3 door
    1987-1988 - Corolla FX models - remember these? - had GTS Model too, but came in three trim levels with
    1988 - 5th generation - all FWD - base 2WD gets 1.6 90hp but with Carburetor, new 1.6 100hp with fuel injection for All-trac models,and GTS engine now makes 115 - just 2/3/5 doors
    1990 - two engines - 1.6 FE 102 hp and 1.6 130 for the GTS - bumpers are now being painted the same color for the DX (option)and the LE
    1991 - last year of the 2 door - Lets now pause for some remorse.
    1992 - last year of the bodystyle
    1993 - 6th generation - DX and LE have 1.8 115 hp and base has 1.6 105 hp - 4/5 doors
    1995 - detuned engines but higher torque for 1.8 105 and 1.6 100 hp
    1996 - last year of the Corolla Wagon - Matrix?????? - restyle - DX was the highest model (no LE)
    1997 7th generation - LE brought back with CE replacing DX and VE for the base model - 1.8 120 hp
    2000 - mild restyle - S came out and CE became bottom model - 1.8 125 hp
    2003 - Current generation with 1.8 130 hp
    2004-2007 - XRS model was introduced similar to the old GTS's with 1.8 170 hp (could be slightly off by a few) with 6 speed manual

    I have ridden or owned in each generation except for the 3rd.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Great post, thanks tundradude .

    This may also be of interest: Toyota Corolla - Generations.

    :)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Don't understand the "driving position issue". I am 6 foot 225 pounds and 70 years old and have know trouble with getting in or out of my wife's 06 Corolla.

    I'll explain my problem with the driving position.

    I'm 6'4", 190 lbs. I have no trouble getting in and out. I have trouble getting comfortable when in the driver's seat. To set the seat where I can reach the wheel properly (as in my Honda, or any other vehicle) my legs are way too scrunched. If I scoot the seat back to where my legs are comfortable (all the way back), I can't reach the wheel without stretching.

    The car itself is fine. Lacking in low-end power, has numb steering, and a buzzy engine at high revs. It has good economy, proven reliability, and good interior room. But the driving position is perfectly awful.

    (The vehicle I drove was a 2004 Corolla LE, Automatic, and was my ex-girlfriend's car).
  • kenymkenym Posts: 405
    "The car itself is fine. Lacking in low-end power, has numb steering, and a buzzy engine at high revs. It has good economy, proven reliability, and good interior room. But the driving position is perfectly awful."

    That is your opinion. The Corolla belongs to my wife. I don't drive it much but I have never had a problem with getting in the vehicle or being uncomfortable while riding or driving the car. I have know idea what a buzzy engine or numb steering means and really care too. The car is a little more than a year old and has averaged 30+ MPG overall, runs great looks great and most importantly the wife loves the car. :shades:
  • koolrosekoolrose Posts: 3
    Does anyone know when the next generation Corolla will be available in the US? I am thinking about buying one of the current models, and I would like to know how much time I have to make a decision.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,769
    Consensus seems to indicate spring 2008 for the all-new 2009 Corolla. The 2008 Corolla has been announced and is carry-over.
  • sales2010sales2010 Posts: 33
    Will it still be built in USA and Canada? I wish some would be built in Japan
  • aladdinsanealaddinsane Posts: 182
    Does anyone know just how much audio power the optional JBL music system delivers in the Corolla? I see that this optional package is now available with the S model for the carryover '08 Corolla. Does it include a subwoofer? I can't get a straight answer from the Toyota website. Upon purchase I'm not sure whether to go with this option or seek aftermarket. I've heard that Toyota sound systems are lame, to say the least, except in the Camry. That optional JBL set-up delivers a whopping 440 watts!

    Any 4-1-1 will be appreciated!

    Peace!!

    AladdinSane<- :shades: --
  • chris360chris360 Posts: 1
    Hey, i have an 07 corolla s with the sound package, and it did not come with a sub. I had an old one I used from my other car though. :) But the sound is great without a sub, it seems fairly accurate, even at high volumes.
  • hackattack5hackattack5 Posts: 315
    I just bought a 2000 corrola VE with a 3 speed transmission. I have been looking on the web trying to find out what is the history behind this transmission? Is it reliable? Does it get the same mileage as the 4 speed? I was worried that I might not like what I hear but can some one give me some insight on this?
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    It should be reliable, but will get nowhere near the mpg of the 4 speed on the highway, where it will lose about 5 mpg maybe more depending on speed.

    It will also be noisier on the highway, and may accelerate a little slower.

    Should be good around town, but not great where the speed limit is 80 mph.
  • i Have a 2003 Toyota Corolla S, and the other day while wiping and cleaning the interior i noticed that the front door seals (on the car half, not the door itself) had a wear mark and worn right through. It seems that being long legged and having the seat all the way back, i rub the seal as i get into the car. Not sure if anyone else has had this problem, but wanted to pass the info on. Just so others are aware and able to keep this from happening to them. I dread the cost to replace them. But all in all i enjoy the car, and glad i bought it.
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    I recall something about a TSB on the door seals of early '03 Corollas. Of course, it is too late now, but check into it for the fun of it.
  • I am planning to buy a 2001 corolla CE which doesnt have the power windows and locks. How feasible/expensive it is to get new power windows and locks installed?
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    If you need these options, don't buy this car. Way too expensive to do.
  • "The car itself is fine. Lacking in low-end power, has numb steering, and a buzzy engine at high revs. It has good economy, proven reliability, and good interior room. But the driving position is perfectly awful."

    That is your opinion. The Corolla belongs to my wife. I don't drive it much but I have never had a problem with getting in the vehicle or being uncomfortable while riding or driving the car. I have know idea what a buzzy engine or numb steering means and really care too. The car is a little more than a year old and has averaged 30+ MPG overall, runs great looks great and most importantly the wife loves the car.

    Well of course it's my opinion :)

    I can get in and out of a Corolla perfectly fine. But the wheel is WAY too far away from me when the seat is set for my legs. By "buzzy engine" I mean the engine lacks smoothness at high-RPMS (such as when the engine kicks down to 3rd gear at 75 MPH to maintain speed up a hill). By "Numb steering" I mean the car has little road-feel and a generally sloppy feel at the wheel. Drive a Honda, better yet a Mazda, and you'll understand what I'm talking about; they have less slop at the helm.

    Toyotas have typically have clientele who just want to go from A to B, not people who enjoy driving (dare I say "enthusiasts). For those, like yourselves, the Corolla is a good car. It's just relentlessly boring to operate for those of us used to something more fun.

    (yes, old post, but still applies since the Corolla is now going into year number 6!)
  • Get an LE, or a 2001 Civic LX instead if you want similar mileage and quality (the Civic will have PW, PL, Cruise, Power Mirrors, etc).
  • kenymkenym Posts: 405
    Well of course it's my opinion. I can get in and out of a Corolla perfectly fine. But the wheel is WAY too far away from me when the seat is set for my legs. :sick:
    You definitely have too much time on your hands. We had this same discussion three months ago, and nothing has changed since then. You have the same argument ( opinion ) with the seating in the Corolla because of something wrong with the length of your legs or arms or what ever. and yes the reason we bought the Corolla was to go from point A to point B. Why else would you purchase any vehicle.
    Not sure a car "enthusiast" would be driving a Corolla or Civic or any compact vehicle to start with. Something like the Ford Mustang, Chevy Corvette, BMW, or Lexus would come to mind. However at three dollars a gallon for gas and 30+ MPG on her Corolla "relentlessly boring to operate" isn't a bad thing. :shades:
  • I own an '04 Corolla which I bought new. I never experienced any real discomfort in the driver seat. I've banged my knees against the dashboard at exiting mainly. I believe that Toyota should make it a little higher, but that means that they will have to push the roof upwards or tall people wouldn't fit. The car is already tall. I'm 5'7".

    Now, what's up with fun to drive factor or people buying it to go from A to B. I'm a car enthusiast, not an expert, but feel that this car always delivers. Good power,and torque, fuel economy and dependability, as well as value with safety.

    This isn't a BMW, Audi or Lexus. Corolla is an honest to goodness car. :)
  • You definitely have too much time on your hands.

    Wow, you don't have to be hateful about it. If you are taking my posts about a vehicle so personally, I'm not sure I should be the one re-evaluating my personality and life.

    You have the same argument ( opinion ) with the seating in the Corolla because of something wrong with the length of your legs or arms or what ever.

    Yep, the Corolla not offering a tilt AND telescoping wheel like the Civic is my fault.

    "relentlessly boring to operate" isn't a bad thing.

    What's this? An opinion? I thought these weren't allowed.

    Not sure a car "enthusiast" would be driving a Corolla or Civic or any compact vehicle to start with.


    Well, when the person who enjoys driving also is mindful of economy, like you say, they find a car that is more fun to drive while still getting them from A to B.
  • I own an '04 Corolla which I bought new. I never experienced any real discomfort in the driver seat. I've banged my knees against the dashboard at exiting mainly. I believe that Toyota should make it a little higher, but that means that they will have to push the roof upwards or tall people wouldn't fit. The car is already tall. I'm 5'7".

    5'7", you shouldn't have a problem. :) The problem is that with the seat back for taller drivers the steering wheel is too far away; a telescoping steering wheel would do WONDERS for this car. It has enough room, in general. I'll bet money they put it on the 09.

    The car delivers adequate acceleration (I think it needs more low-end or a closer-ratio transmission), but then again we're just sharing our thoughts on here aren't we? If we can't do that then we ought not to be here - I'm not forcing you to agree! :).As far as fun-to-drive, the Corolla jsut really didn't deliver for me. The handling is safe, but that's about it. The car has lots of body roll relative to others in the class. The steering of the Corolla makes the Civic feel REALLY sporty in contrast, and the Mazda 3 is like a go-kart in comparison. That's the cost of the softer ride of the Corolla though. Not a bad thing if your goal is a smooth ride; just not conducive to "fun." Next to a basic "Car" in the dictionary, you'd find Corolla. It is efficient, relatively roomy, and cheap to own. It's also as bland as white bread in my opinion.
  • irismgirismg Posts: 345
    You know, my '98 came with tilt wheel, but I never move it. I mean, it's just nothing I deal with. Perhaps a telescoping wheel would help some people if, as they say (although I can't see it) this generation Corolla is bigger than mine.

    People should allow your opinion, thegraduate. The Corolla isn't your thing! I'm not sure this generation is my thing, either, as much as I love Corollas. Me personally, I don't particularly need my car to be fun-to-drive. I need to not have to worry about it. I spend probably an hour a day tops in it, going to and from work, and stopping at the store. I don't need sporty because I'm not going over 60mph, anyway. I need it to have enough fire to get me on the freeway for a 9 mile trip, that's all. So, for me, bland is good, boring is excellent, reliable is out of this world. I will insist on a good-looking car, though. I think the current generation lacks somewhat, especially when compared to the last generation, but it's not ugly, and I could live with it if I had to.

    If you need more from your four-door sedan, it's OK! I respect that.

    I do think people get too enamored with superlatives, though. For people like me, adequate is plenty (I think the Corolla's sales figures suggest I'm not alone in this). I guess what I'm saying is, whatever you need your car to do for you and where you need it to take you is your own decision. If the Corolla, past, current, or future isn't doing it for you, nobody should castigate you for your needs.

    As for me, I may yet give generation nine a chance. Do you know, Dub Richardson Toyota is selling a 2008 right now on the Auto Trader for $14,991 and it only has 400 miles on it! Very tempting, even if it is an automatic!
  • People should allow your opinion, thegraduate. The Corolla isn't your thing! I'm not sure this generation is my thing, either, as much as I love Corollas. Me personally, I don't particularly need my car to be fun-to-drive. I need to not have to worry about it. I spend probably an hour a day tops in it, going to and from work, and stopping at the store. I don't need sporty because I'm not going over 60mph, anyway. I need it to have enough fire to get me on the freeway for a 9 mile trip, that's all.

    Thanks for the kind words. I don't necessarily equate power with sport though. A Cadillac DTS is a fast car (291hp), but its not sporty/fun. A car like a Honda Fit will be out-accelerated in straight line by a Corolla, but it is a pure HOOT to drive. Quick steering, nimble in corners, it handles like its on rails. That's a car I'd look forward to DRIVING.

    The fact that some people want a car like they want an appliance does make sense to me, actually. They want it to get the job done everytime, use as few resources as possible (fuel), have enough power to get the job done, but could care less about the driving experience as a whole. For that type of person, a Corolla or Camry is an excellent car. Soft and smooth in its operation, it does little to disturb you while you are driving. It doesn't excite you to drive, but that's good - because you aren't looking for "fun" from your car; it is strictly a tool. I completely buy that argument (not that you need my validation! :)).

    My mom is that person. I'm just my father's son, and enjoy the sound of a high-revving engine, or taking the curvy river road near my house at speeds that would make a Buick passenger throw up (not tire-squealing/reckless driving or anything, but briskly).

    It's a fun experience to me to have a car that can handle mycommute comfortably every day and deliver excellent mileage for the power it delivers (like the Corolla does) AND be a fun little toy when I want a little more than an appliance.
  • irismgirismg Posts: 345
    I understand totally...I was 21 once, myself! My idea of fun half a lifetime ago was driving down I-35 in my old Ford Maverick with both windows cranked down (you DO come to appreciate power windows when you get older...trust me) doing 80 and pretending I had a convertible! :shades: These days I don't need all that much excitement! LOL I guess I'm becoming more European as I get older..

    BTW, I understand you can take a newer Corolla and install a "sway bar" in the back that they say will do wonders for any body roll you find. Who knows, maybe that and a set of Uniroyals may help! And, if you punch a hole in the muffler, you might get the noise you're looking for! :P I mean, you may prefer a car you don't have to customize, and I don't blame you, but this could also be part of the...um..."fun" in owning a car!

    Which reminds me, there's a Prius in our parking lot that has the best decal work I've ever seen! It looks like the front end's on fire, with the "flames" going into the door! Now THERE's someone having some fun with a car that's normally even blander than the Corolla! ;)

    The most I ever did to any of my cars was put a stripe of Rainbow Tape down the sides of the Maverick.
  • I understand totally...I was 21 once, myself! My idea of fun half a lifetime ago was driving down I-35 in my old Ford Maverick with both windows cranked down (you DO come to appreciate power windows when you get older...trust me) doing 80 and pretending I had a convertible! These days I don't need all that much excitement! LOL I guess I'm becoming more European as I get older..

    BTW, I understand you can take a newer Corolla and install a "sway bar" in the back that they say will do wonders for any body roll you find. Who knows, maybe that and a set of Uniroyals may help! And, if you punch a hole in the muffler, you might get the noise you're looking for! I mean, you may prefer a car you don't have to customize, and I don't blame you, but this could also be part of the...um..."fun" in owning a car!

    Haha, I'm not a ricer or anything. My two cars aren't what any self-respecting ricer (is there such a thing? LOL kidding) would call sporty. They have stock wheels and 4-cylinder engines. But to offer the respectable ride that they do they are also a pleasure to own and drive. The difference is that the Toyota cars are typically more of a pleasure to RIDE in (smoother/quieter/more comfortable).

    By the way, i'm not a Corolla hater - I drove my (now ex-) girlfriend's Corolla for many a mile. Other than the reach to the wheel, the car was a comfortable freeway cruiser - it rode as well if not better than my much larger 2006 Accord. It just didn't handle as tightly.

    Any car that can get 28 MPG with her lead-footed driving style (4,000 RPM plus and 85 MPH was typical for her daily commute - it's why I stopped riding with her) deserves plenty of accolades. On a trip I got 10 MPG higher than that, at 75 MPH. I was impressed (it was a Silver 2004 Silver LE with the Moonroof, ABS, and Side-Airbags). A very NICE car. But it is the "nice" part that is too overwhelming - it was a polite car, but a wallflower as well.

    Here's a picture of my two Accords to prove my "non-ricer" heritage! (I'll explain why a single 20 year old has two Accords another time :)). The one on the left is a 1996 with nearly 175,000 miles. The one on the right is a 2006 closing in on 25,000 miles. The older one is actually the more fun (smaller and more spry), despite the new one being faster in a straight line.
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  • irismgirismg Posts: 345
    I may be showing my age (some more), but I don't understand the term, "ricer". Explain?
  • irismgirismg Posts: 345
    Do you know I've never driven a Honda of any kind? I think I avoided them in the past because it used to be back in the day it cost an arm and a leg for even the simplest thing, and you had to take them to a "Honda specialist" to even change the sparkplugs. My cousin swears by them, though. Isn't brand loyalty something??

    I must say these are two very handsome cars, and the red one's body style is a lot like my Corolla! Do you know Accord's history? Which generation is each?

    And have you drooled over the '08 yet? It's huge now, kind of a shame. It's the size of Avalon now.
  • The term "rice-rocket" is typically used to describe those cars you were speaking of that have giant coffee can mufflers on them, as well as huge wheels, decals, and big wings. Typically its done by people my age or younger to cars like Civics. A "ricer" would be someone who does that.
  • Honda service/parts aren't too much different from Toyota these days. I get my oil changed at Wal-Mart, and am buying shocks from a Midas-style place soon. A new timing belt is due on my red one at 180k miles, and that won't be done at a dealer either - just a local mechanic shop with a good reputation.

    Yes, I typically can discern Accords from each other by generation. My red is a gen V ('94-'97) while the graphite colored one is a gen VII ('03-'07). My mom had a gen IV 1993 that was the best car she (or anyone in my immediate family) ever owned. NO REPAIRS, rattles, squeaks, or imperfections over 110k miles and 7 years. We just outgrew that car though.

    Thanks for the compliments on my '96; I think it has better styling than my 2006 (although I LOVE the interior of my 2006). I added you on carspace. My folks just moved from Edmond, OK!
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