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Wow, you don't have to be hateful about it. If you are taking my posts about a vehicle so personally, I'm not sure I should be the one re-evaluating my personality and life.
You have the same argument ( opinion ) with the seating in the Corolla because of something wrong with the length of your legs or arms or what ever.
Yep, the Corolla not offering a tilt AND telescoping wheel like the Civic is my fault.
"relentlessly boring to operate" isn't a bad thing.
What's this? An opinion? I thought these weren't allowed.
Not sure a car "enthusiast" would be driving a Corolla or Civic or any compact vehicle to start with.
Well, when the person who enjoys driving also is mindful of economy, like you say, they find a car that is more fun to drive while still getting them from A to B.
5'7", you shouldn't have a problem. The problem is that with the seat back for taller drivers the steering wheel is too far away; a telescoping steering wheel would do WONDERS for this car. It has enough room, in general. I'll bet money they put it on the 09.
The car delivers adequate acceleration (I think it needs more low-end or a closer-ratio transmission), but then again we're just sharing our thoughts on here aren't we? If we can't do that then we ought not to be here - I'm not forcing you to agree! .As far as fun-to-drive, the Corolla jsut really didn't deliver for me. The handling is safe, but that's about it. The car has lots of body roll relative to others in the class. The steering of the Corolla makes the Civic feel REALLY sporty in contrast, and the Mazda 3 is like a go-kart in comparison. That's the cost of the softer ride of the Corolla though. Not a bad thing if your goal is a smooth ride; just not conducive to "fun." Next to a basic "Car" in the dictionary, you'd find Corolla. It is efficient, relatively roomy, and cheap to own. It's also as bland as white bread in my opinion.
People should allow your opinion, thegraduate. The Corolla isn't your thing! I'm not sure this generation is my thing, either, as much as I love Corollas. Me personally, I don't particularly need my car to be fun-to-drive. I need to not have to worry about it. I spend probably an hour a day tops in it, going to and from work, and stopping at the store. I don't need sporty because I'm not going over 60mph, anyway. I need it to have enough fire to get me on the freeway for a 9 mile trip, that's all. So, for me, bland is good, boring is excellent, reliable is out of this world. I will insist on a good-looking car, though. I think the current generation lacks somewhat, especially when compared to the last generation, but it's not ugly, and I could live with it if I had to.
If you need more from your four-door sedan, it's OK! I respect that.
I do think people get too enamored with superlatives, though. For people like me, adequate is plenty (I think the Corolla's sales figures suggest I'm not alone in this). I guess what I'm saying is, whatever you need your car to do for you and where you need it to take you is your own decision. If the Corolla, past, current, or future isn't doing it for you, nobody should castigate you for your needs.
As for me, I may yet give generation nine a chance. Do you know, Dub Richardson Toyota is selling a 2008 right now on the Auto Trader for $14,991 and it only has 400 miles on it! Very tempting, even if it is an automatic!
Thanks for the kind words. I don't necessarily equate power with sport though. A Cadillac DTS is a fast car (291hp), but its not sporty/fun. A car like a Honda Fit will be out-accelerated in straight line by a Corolla, but it is a pure HOOT to drive. Quick steering, nimble in corners, it handles like its on rails. That's a car I'd look forward to DRIVING.
The fact that some people want a car like they want an appliance does make sense to me, actually. They want it to get the job done everytime, use as few resources as possible (fuel), have enough power to get the job done, but could care less about the driving experience as a whole. For that type of person, a Corolla or Camry is an excellent car. Soft and smooth in its operation, it does little to disturb you while you are driving. It doesn't excite you to drive, but that's good - because you aren't looking for "fun" from your car; it is strictly a tool. I completely buy that argument (not that you need my validation! ).
My mom is that person. I'm just my father's son, and enjoy the sound of a high-revving engine, or taking the curvy river road near my house at speeds that would make a Buick passenger throw up (not tire-squealing/reckless driving or anything, but briskly).
It's a fun experience to me to have a car that can handle mycommute comfortably every day and deliver excellent mileage for the power it delivers (like the Corolla does) AND be a fun little toy when I want a little more than an appliance.
BTW, I understand you can take a newer Corolla and install a "sway bar" in the back that they say will do wonders for any body roll you find. Who knows, maybe that and a set of Uniroyals may help! And, if you punch a hole in the muffler, you might get the noise you're looking for! :P I mean, you may prefer a car you don't have to customize, and I don't blame you, but this could also be part of the...um..."fun" in owning a car!
Which reminds me, there's a Prius in our parking lot that has the best decal work I've ever seen! It looks like the front end's on fire, with the "flames" going into the door! Now THERE's someone having some fun with a car that's normally even blander than the Corolla!
The most I ever did to any of my cars was put a stripe of Rainbow Tape down the sides of the Maverick.
BTW, I understand you can take a newer Corolla and install a "sway bar" in the back that they say will do wonders for any body roll you find. Who knows, maybe that and a set of Uniroyals may help! And, if you punch a hole in the muffler, you might get the noise you're looking for! I mean, you may prefer a car you don't have to customize, and I don't blame you, but this could also be part of the...um..."fun" in owning a car!
Haha, I'm not a ricer or anything. My two cars aren't what any self-respecting ricer (is there such a thing? LOL kidding) would call sporty. They have stock wheels and 4-cylinder engines. But to offer the respectable ride that they do they are also a pleasure to own and drive. The difference is that the Toyota cars are typically more of a pleasure to RIDE in (smoother/quieter/more comfortable).
By the way, i'm not a Corolla hater - I drove my (now ex-) girlfriend's Corolla for many a mile. Other than the reach to the wheel, the car was a comfortable freeway cruiser - it rode as well if not better than my much larger 2006 Accord. It just didn't handle as tightly.
Any car that can get 28 MPG with her lead-footed driving style (4,000 RPM plus and 85 MPH was typical for her daily commute - it's why I stopped riding with her) deserves plenty of accolades. On a trip I got 10 MPG higher than that, at 75 MPH. I was impressed (it was a Silver 2004 Silver LE with the Moonroof, ABS, and Side-Airbags). A very NICE car. But it is the "nice" part that is too overwhelming - it was a polite car, but a wallflower as well.
Here's a picture of my two Accords to prove my "non-ricer" heritage! (I'll explain why a single 20 year old has two Accords another time ). The one on the left is a 1996 with nearly 175,000 miles. The one on the right is a 2006 closing in on 25,000 miles. The older one is actually the more fun (smaller and more spry), despite the new one being faster in a straight line.
I must say these are two very handsome cars, and the red one's body style is a lot like my Corolla! Do you know Accord's history? Which generation is each?
And have you drooled over the '08 yet? It's huge now, kind of a shame. It's the size of Avalon now.
Yes, I typically can discern Accords from each other by generation. My red is a gen V ('94-'97) while the graphite colored one is a gen VII ('03-'07). My mom had a gen IV 1993 that was the best car she (or anyone in my immediate family) ever owned. NO REPAIRS, rattles, squeaks, or imperfections over 110k miles and 7 years. We just outgrew that car though.
Thanks for the compliments on my '96; I think it has better styling than my 2006 (although I LOVE the interior of my 2006). I added you on carspace. My folks just moved from Edmond, OK!
When my car was still under warranty, I didn't let anybody BUT the dealer touch it. Yes, it's pricey, and I hate dealerships, but at least if they screw up you've got some recourse, plus there's a two year warranty on parts at the dealer, so you have to figure you're paying for that. If taking it to the dealer means paying extra to make sure they don't overfill something or put the wrong oil in, so be it.
Someday soon I'll have to take it in to figure out why my transmission's sprung a leak. Saw a puddle and it was very disconcerting. I'm sure my wallet's going to cringe, but I'll be doggone if I'll let Wal-Mart or Pep Boys or someone else make the problem worse!
If I had a garage of my own, I'd change my own oil with Pennzoil High Mileage 5W-30! I used to do all that kind of stuff with my first car, even changed "points"! (Ask Pop what those are! :P ) Being an apartment dweller, however, can sometimes be a drag...
It's interesting the people I find with an "Oklahoma connection"!
Yep, regarding Oklahoma, my parents moved out there and worked for Globe Life; decided they were too far from home, retired, and moved to their condo at the beach in gulf shores, Alabama!
Me, I'm African-American, and I eat more rice than bread, so I'm not offended as far as the context in which he used it.
"Wow, you don't have to be hateful about it."
Not being hateful. Just pointing out that three months ago you used the same rhetoric.
"relentlessly boring to operate" isn't a bad thing.
What's this? An opinion? I thought these weren't allowed
Not my opinion. YOURS . I was simply agreeing with your statement of relentlessly boring to operate and posted it isn't a bad thing.
I honestly hope you are as happy with your Honda's as my wife is with her Toyota. :shades:
I certianly didn't mean it in a manner as to be derogotory to a race; only a niche of car-modification. I was using "ricer" in the same way I'd use "rodder", which would be someone in a giant-engined muscle-car. My mind never went to the asian-american sect of society. Honest.
No offense intended, and if any was taken, those of you have my sincerest apologies. I'm really not someone who says things just to make pointless waves.
I don't necessarily equate power with sport though. A Cadillac DTS is a fast car (291hp), but its not sporty/fun. I too want Quick steering, nimble in corners, it handles like its on rails. That's a car I'd look forward to DRIVING.
I despise the floaty disconnected sensation Toyota builds in their cars, and I have an SE (2002). It's plenty fast, maybe even too fast... but the steering and handling are like driving w/ pillows attached to your feet/hands (gag!). Then again my first car was very used 1993 Mercedes 190E. It was kinda slow (0-60 in 8.2) and it drank premium gas, but it drove SO well that even with all its faults I miss it even after 5-6 years away from it.
Unless you're having rice for dinner, of course! :P
Someone had to say it, might as well be me. :shades:
To clarify why I made that point, there are a lot of people around who do take offense to that word (along with some other less-than-favorable-to-the-Japanese terms). You asked what the word meant and I thought that a full explanation might be helpful - to you and anyone else reading.
I didn't mean to stir up trouble, believe me!
Anybody want to talk about the Corolla now?
Ohh, mee, meeeee! *raises hand.
Does anyone have an idea of what engine(s) the Corolla will offer? It's so close to being here, I was wondering if there was ANY leak of information.
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2718a.shtml
I believe I saw one last week that wasn't this sporty model. Very exciting!
has a towing capacity of 1500 lbs.
Can I tow a 14 ft jonboat with a 15 hp motor?
Toyota dealership is mum on this issue.
ps ... I live on flat terrain.
Thanks
I doubt that. The last Corolla (2003-2008) weighed around 2500 lbs, and vehicles like the Camry and Accord don't weigh 3500 until you get into the loaded V6 models.
Follow this link for specifications on the 2003-2008 Corolla
I'd bet a 2009 1.8L Corolla wouldn't weigh over 2800 lbs.
Corolla LE - 2745 lbs.
Corolla S - 2767 lbs.
Corolla XLE - 2811 lbs.
Corolla XRS - 2877 lbs.
The best game is the car chase. I only hit a rock twice, and kept "the man" successfully at bay!
I'm not a mechanic, and have never worked on cars, but it sounds like your valves may be clacking.
thanks
This is normal.
your comments were important for me!!!!!!
2 weeks ago i change the oil transmission (corolla 2003 type S) because the oil was like a coffe......and yesterday, i check and surprise: the oil has the same color : coffe, whats happening? :sick: :confuse:
A standard transmission fluid change is typically 3 drain and fills, with a short drive in between each drain and fill, to mix the fluid.
Most cars, like my Honda, need new transmission fluid every 90k-120k miles. This is why transmission fluid changes are recommended every 30k miles, so that by the time you have change it at 90k miles, you've actually drained it and filled it 3 times, and are running relatively fresh fluid.
I am trying to help my girlfriend shop for a car and she has found a 2007 corolla she really like. However, she finds the head rest very uncomfortable (too far forward) just like in my '08 RAV4. They seem to have changed it around 05 or 06 to increase the whiplash safety. Does anyone know if you can replace the 07 head rests with one from an older model? Or do you have any other suggestions? Any help would be great!
Peace,
Doug
I have heard a few people complain about this, but the answer is always live with it, get used to it, or lean the seat back more.
touch the gas pedal and I have to shift to second.
HELP!!!!
What is the idle rpm's (after the engine is warmed up?)
What do you consider high - what RPM, or when what speed are you going when you shift to 2nd?