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Dodge Intrepid

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  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    My Stratus may have been totaled yesterday, and I may have to shop for a used car soon. I've always had an eye for the Intrepid and it's price range for a '98 model is not too far away from my '97 Stratus.

    What can you Intrepid owners tell me about that year, reliability wise?

    TIA
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,105
    ...the 1998 Intrepid was one of the most trouble-free launches of a new car in years. Normally, a good rule of thumb is don't buy the first new model year of a domestic, as they tend to not have all the bugs worked out.

    I'm sure the tranny has been improved since 1998, but even at that time, I don't think it was much of a trouble spot anymore.

    I'd say just follow general common sense here. Try to get one that's not too ragged out, and has had the maintenance kept up on. It might be a good idea to have the tranny serviced, just as a precaution. It's common for the wrong fluid to get put in these, which will cause them to fail prematurely. Make sure your mechanic uses Type 4 (9196) instead of Type 3 (7176) ATF.
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    I appreciate your comments.

    I do have to confess that my experience with the Stratus wasn't stellar. It had to have things fixed almost 4 times a year, from small to big ones, while it was in warranty. In the next 2 years I've had it without warranty it developed small issues that I've been postponing (like a leaky AC).

    Having said this, I'm still a little wary of another Chrysler, even loving the way they look and handle. I understand that the Intrepid has had a much better dependability record than the Stratus, but is it so for a Chrysler or in its category in general?

    TIA
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    Look what I found on Ebay , anyone interested adding these to there Trep. These things are the best thing since sliced bread LOL


    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1872238768

  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,105
    I haven't looked in a Consumer Reports lately, but I think they rate the Intrepid okay nowadays. I know Consumer Guide gives it their "Best Buy" rating.

    Here's a rundown of what I've had to do to my '00...

    30000 miles: new tires, tranny service
    35000 miles: power lock actuator in driver's door replaced under warranty
    39000 miles: new front brake pads (cheap no-name brand: I learned my lesson!)
    ~43000 miles: power passenger mirror broke
    ~45000 miles: door seal shrinkage in back
    51000 miles: new rear brakes, leaking thermostat housing replaced
    61000 miles: tranny service, alignment
    70000 miles: new front brakes (nice Bendix brakes this time)

    In addition, I've changed the oil every 3-4K miles, and rotated the tires every 3rd oil change. I've also replaced the pcv valve and air filter about every 15K miles or so.

    It hasn't been a perfect car, but then I don't think there is such a thing! Just for reference, my Mom's '99 Altima dropped its tranny around the 35K mark, and she's a lot more gentle on cars than I am. Most of her driving is highway commuting to work, while a good deal of mine, for a few years, was delivering pizzas!
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    I would agree with andre's comments. Certainly you might explore anything in the 1998-2000 range. I'm quite comfortable with my 2000ES and echo andre's experience; although I have required a bit less service on my car. It's true that my mileage is less at 43,000. Even the camoflaged "anti-Intrepid" contingent here at Edmunds had to create things to complain about in their long-term test of a 1998 Intrepid. They characteristically underplayed the extremely low maintenance costs of their long termer. Pardon me while I hop off my short "soap box".
    I too reiterate the tranny fluid issue should you find one and have the transmission serviced--you'll find my (potential catastrophic) experience listed previously in this board. My most significant costs were new front pads, and new tires. I've tended to allow the oil change intervals to go longer as I used synthetics.
    ANDRE1969--how are those new Bendix pads working? My are "breaking in"...a bit less grabby but still strong after 3000 miles. Driving back from Virginia to PA last night and played "high speed" cat and mouse with a red Intrepid R/T from New York. We certainly made good time. My "little ol'" ES kept with him--but we when did a brief foot-to-the-floor run he was able to pull away quite handily. I'll admit we made it to about 110-115 mph before cutting back.
    (Dear Safety Nazi's--it was a brief full throttle run on a mostly empty Interstate). All in all I was pleased with my 3.2's performance!
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  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,105
    my Bendix brake pads are doing fine. Every once in awhile I'll hear a squeak out of them, but they're nothing like the bargain-basement pads I had on there before! As for stopping, they're still plenty strong.

    I haven't had a chance to really get out and gun the car lately, though. I did have it up to around 100-105 a few months ago (before the new pads), but nothing so exciting lately. The tiny 2.7 does have some kick to it at higher speeds. Next time around though, if I get another 'Trep, I'll probably opt for a larger engine, unless the base plant gets radically upgraded or something.
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    Thanks for your feedback. My Bendix pads came with a "lifetime" warranty through the service shop. Yours?
    My experiences with the 2.7 were equally positive. I got rear ended in my old vehicle early in the summer of 1999. So, for about 2.5 weeks I had a base Intrepid with the 2.7. Despite having only 9000 miles, this thing RAN. My brother and his wife had a late 90's Avenger with the Mitsu 2.5 V6 and would marvel at the mid-high rev power of my rental 2.7. I think it was probably a "strong" version of the 2.7 allowing for subtle differences among engines. For some reason--although my 3.2 is superior in all respects--that little 2.7 got me grinnin' alot!
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,105
    ...but since I put them on myself, I'm sure that Bendix will find a way to weasel out of it if I need them replaced!
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,105
    ...it's been kinda quiet in here lately, so I just thought I'd post to keep us on the boards! How's everybody and their Intrepids doing?

    My '00 just hit 73,000 miles last night. It seems that this winter is taking its toll a bit more on fuel economy than the last 3 winters I've had the car. The worst fuel economy I ever recorded on a tank was just under 20 mpg, a few winters back. I haven't calculated yet, but it seems like I'm doing worse this time. Then again, it feels like this winter's a bit colder, at least so far.
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    Wow Andre...you are certainly packing on the mileage. I was a bit amazed to watch my 2000 ES turn over 46,000. My mileage decreased a bit after a recent service stop but is on the rise again. I'm hoping to test it out over the holidays on some lengthy trips in the colder weather. Nothing new to report--going to have the dealer order and install the new door seals--to replace the shrunken ones which are "whistling a bit". Other than that, no significant problems. My biggest expenditure EVER aside from tires was my last service (largely optional) at 40K--tires rotated and 4 wheel aligned, oil and filter, tranny fluid and filter, wipers, etc..
  • I checked my service records on my financial software, and I have spent a total of $21.77 on service for the Intrepid this year - one case of oil, two oil filters, and a set of wiper blade inserts. That is for the mileage period 20-30k miles, it happens the air filter replacement and the 20k service was last year for me.

    Granted, I do the work myself, and will be taking it into the dealership to get a shrunken door seal replaced and have them check the drive belt tensioner. Other than that, everything works as intended with the car was built. Mileage is a little below expectations, but I have the 3.5 high output, drive in suburban and city areas, and usually around 75 mph on the freeway (faster than that when i can get away with it, the R/T is rock solid at 90 mph).

    I'll probably throw in an oil change and transmission fluid change when I get the warranty work done, the dealer has higher profit margins on nonwarranty work, so maybe they will try a little harder on the warranty work.
  • Anyone running synthetic oil in their Intrepid?

    On advice of a friend who is a mechanic, I just started using Mobil 1 in my Explorer. I have coupons for one more oil change on the wife's 2002 Intrepid. So I will use dino for at least 5500 more miles, but will be taking over the oil changes from there.
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    After allowing the original oil to "break things in" I changed to synthetic in my 2000 ES and have used it ever since. Don't know that it gives demonstrably better fuel mileage but I am more comfortable going for 5-7.5K on oil and filter changes. I'm closing in on 47,000 miles and I've never needed to add more than a half quart of synthetic between changes..
  • I have a '95 Intrepid with just over 100k on the clock. It has been a good car with no major problems. I would like to replace it in the next 2-3 years but I "heard" a rumor that the Intrepid may be going to rear wheel drive just like the Chrysler 300N. I like the size and front wheel drive because of the snow and ice here in MD. Does anyone have any information on the future of the Intrepid? Thank you!
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    Yes you heard right , the next generation car will bw RWD and some will be AWD . Dont worry the size is even bigger than current Intrepids .You say your worried about ice and snow driving , dont be as the new cars will use a lot of Mercedes traction control systems .These cars will be out starting Jan 2004 so keep them in mind when thinking of replacing that 95.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,105
    ...that the next Intrepid were going to be on a longer wheelbase, but shorter overall. For some reason the number 117.7" keeps sticking in my mind for wheelbase, and overall length, around 195". Is that in the ballpark, Ottoworker?


    I found this on the internet... http://www.car-truck.com/chryed/buzz/b121902.htm

    but dunno how accurate it is.

  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    Sorry , I dont know the numbers . But that link to car-truck has a lot of good true info .
  • I was reading a review of some full-sized cars in the newspaper and the paper said that this would be the last year that the chrysler corporation puts out the intrepid. It will be discontinued next year. I was shocked! The intrepid is one of my favorite dodge cars and I think that its a mistake that chrysler is going to cancel this car. I was just going to check up on it and see if this is true. It seems hard to believe. I also heard that Chysler/Dodge was going to remodel the Sebring and Stratus soon again, like in 2004 I think. Because they aren't seeing high selling numbers. They just redesigned them! Is this true? write back.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,105
    ...there is going to be a 2004 Intrepid, but it's going to be a short model year. The 2005 replacement hasn't been given an official name yet; they're still tossing that around.

    I'd think Intrepid would be a good name to keep, though. It's been the strongest selling Dodge car in recent years, and put them back on the map, as far as full-sized cars go. Dodge was always a strong player in the compact and intermediate markets, but was weaker in the full-size arena. Think about it...how many really popular full-size Dodges were there? Most people probably couldn't even name a full-size Dodge off the top of their heads!
  • beach15beach15 Posts: 1,305
    Yes, the Intrepid name may disappear. The new replacement will be RWD, and will be the last to come to market in 2005 as either a 2005 or 2006 model. It's replacement was originally set to be the Super 8 Hemi concept car, but that car got such a terrible response, they went back to the drawing board and started completely over from scratch. This is also why the new replacement will be the last LX car to come out. The new one is supposed to look like or resemble the Charger concept from a few years ago, most likely, and may actually take the Charger name.

    About the Stratus, yes, it has been "lightly" re-designed, along with the Sebring. As you may have noticed, DC re-did the front, rear, and interior on the Mitsubishi-built coupe models already, and they are now doing the same to the sedans. As such, the 2004 sedans can be ordered now and should be on lots anytime soon. The 2003 model year was quite short. Reason? Mainly poor sales, nowhere near what's needed to be successful. Look around the web, and you can see the pics.
  • So let's see: The Intrepid will go 8 model years (1998-2005) before a redesign, even after not selling well for the last 3 or 4 of those model years.


    The jury is still out on whether a large rear wheel drive car will sell in large volumes at a price point that they can make any money. (The Grand Marquis and Crown Vic's development was amortized long ago - it is a pretty cheap car to build) Was RWD chosen just so Daimler can amortize more of the development costs of Mercedes products over a larger production amount?


    Yep, the Daimler merger is working out very well.

  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,105
    ...really is getting stretched out too far, considering we really should have gotten a new model for 2003. As for sales though, I think it's still holding its own. In CY2002 through the end of November, they sold 103,437 units, compared to 102,243 the year before. Meanwhile, cars like the Impala, Crown Vic, and Grand Marquis have fallen in the same timeframe.


    I think RWD could work, if they make it exciting enough. The Crown Vic and Grand Marquis don't sell because they're dull and have looked about the same since 1992, in spite of a few facelifts in between. A buddy of mine has a '95 GM, and the '03's are identical inside, with the exception of cheaper carpeting. They might make a good police car or taxi, but nobody really wants them as a family car anymore.


    Also, with being a V-8 only model, Ford is only going to build so many CVs and GMs, no matter what the demand is for them. If they sell too many, then their CAFE numbers are going to sink and they'll get fined. At least with the upcoming LX models, since they're going to have V-6 engines as well, overall they shouldn't hurt DC's CAFE numbers too much.

  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    " The Intrepid will go 8 model years (1998-2005) before a redesign"
    The last year of the Trep is 2004. Aug 28 is the final build date of all LH cars
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,105
    What happened to Emale's pics?! Were they from some copyrighted site or something? Emale, could you send me the url to the site that had those pics? My email address is in my profile. Thanks!
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    emale, I wrote you about this yesterday, perhaps you have not checked your email?

    The website has a clear copyright policy in which it states that images may not be reproduced on other websites: http://www.daimlerchrysler.de/index_e.htm?/legal_e.htm

    You can post links, but please don't exceed the character limit -- that screws up the screen for most of our members, and the page has to be scrolled left to right to read every single line on it. We get tons of complaints when that happens - it makes the page virtually unreadable.

    If you have any questions, just drop me a line.

    Thanks!
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    #1509 of 1514 by emale United States of America Jan 02, 2003 (10:40 pm)


    andre,


    these pictures are in a chrysler press kit so i'm not sure why edmunds won't allow them.


    here is that url:


    http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2DD352F2

  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,105
    ...looks like it'll be a pretty hot looking car, and hopefully worth the wait!
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