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That is good reasoning (and one I have subscribed to) until you've recently put $5000 into repairs, somebody hits you and the insurance company totals it and sends you a check for $400. Ouch!
Before the ink was dry on the title *poof* transmission. What is wrong with the transmission? Well says Mr. Tow truck Driver, Probably the sensor, nothing major. These cars have trouble with sensors. NOPE! New transmission. Rebuilt of course because i am NOT paying more for repairs than the car itself. Or so I thought. 2 weeks 3K (borrowed from my boss) later car is running. YEAH!!
Inspection time. I leave the transmission shop drive directly to inspection. Well says Mr. Inspection fellow, you have several issues before I can pass this car. These repairs added up to 1K total. For those of you countin' at home. We are at 4K and i haven't hit the 3-month mark!!
Fast-forward a lil over 1 year. My car begins to make this horrifying grinding noise. Breaks gotta be the breaks. Family mechanic is consulted. Breaks are replaced. Drive it home (bout a 25-30 min ride) and the noise continues. i call said mechanic and take it back. He checks it out. No it's not the breaks but I now need a new exhaust. Ok good sir, how much is this check for? GREAT! here is my check good for $500. Thanks you and have a great day. See you at the bar. Long ride home still horrifying noise!!!! It is not the breaks but the longer the car runs, the more it grinds when the breaks are applied. Whatever, I stop when need be so I deal.
Bad day at work? You just want to go home. You start your car you start the drive home and hit the highway. I can't put my driver window down now because that quit working during the fast forward part, along with the A/C and my passenger window decides when it is going to work on its own. Anyway, something on the dash catches my eye. It's the temp light with prompts me to look at the gage. It is above the "Oh my good heavens it's gonna explode stage". TIP: never leave your cell on the kitchen table when you are driving an Intrepid. I have to get home so my wonderful boyfriend can fix this heap. Or get it to a remote location and blow it to smithereens!
In conclusion, it is 2 years; 5K+ in repairs, 15 radiator flushes, 3 bottles of Stop Leak later and the car has come to a full-fledged S-T-O-P! He just walked in and said it made a different but equally horrifying noise and pretty much gave him the bird.
Was the car haunted by a poor lonely sole who would rather take the car out in pieces or is this car just truly a piece of crap?? I say crap but I am unsure of the unknown, hence it being called the unknown. I will never know.
I am buying a new car on Saturday. I am not sure what I will but but I can assure you it will not start with a Dodge and end in Intrepid.
The definition of Intrepid: adj. Resolutely courageous; fearless.
I say the only thing fearless or courageous is the person who buys one. GOOD LUCK!
I have a 2000 Intrepid with the 2.7, that I bought new. Currently has about 137,000 miles on it, and it is showing its age in some areas. I've had to put about $1900 into it in the past year, which includes new front brakes, new transmission lines, new radiator hoses (all of that dealer stuff, so it's pricey), both front bearing hubs (I think that was a dealer/factory part too), some other suspension work, recharging the a/c, two new tires, and a coolant flush.
$1900 might seem like a lot, but for the age/mileage, I don't think it's too bad. Plus, this is by far the most money I've had to put into the car in any given year.
Depending on the age/mileage of your car, I wonder if the previous owner might not have cared for it quite as well as they led you to believe? And the electrical system almost sounds to me like it might have failed at some point, but instead of getting it fixed right, by a professional, perhaps they just took it to some shadetree mechanic who monkeyed around with it and got it to more or less work again, but with unintended consequences (like your whacked power windows and HVAC controls)?
Anyway, good luck with whatever else you end up buying.
A few months after that, the car mysteriously stops working. It turns out a sensor went out. Cost $300.
Eight months after that, the tie rods needed to be repaired: Cost $400.
Seven months later, the car starts making grinding noises, which lasted for a week or two, gradually getting worse, until it finally refused to start.
Total cost $5700, and that's not even counting the $2000 repair we didn't do!
It's been sitting in my driveway for two months now. I am so disgusted with it, I just want to junk it and start over with another car. Sad thing is that I've had less trouble with my 91 Ford Aerostar van, and I've had it for 10 years, and the van is older than the Intrepid!
The transmission fluid trick works well but dont run it long term. Change the oil then replace with cheap oil and a quart or even two of transmission fluid. Transmission fluid has very high detergent properties. Run the engine for 20 mins at idle then drain and replace with good qualitity oil.
Any good qualitity oil will be fine if you change it regularly I believe the 2.7 is every 3,750 miles but I have not looked it up lately. Alot of newer engines recomend the 5-30. I have been told that the engineers feel it cuts down on wear at start up. Regular petroleum based oil is fine. Synthetic offers two big improvements the longer interval between oil changes and it can protect at higher temps. However unless the engine has a turbo it will never get to those temps. The drawback on synthetic is the higher cost.
NUMBER: 08-36-99
GROUP: Electrical
DATE: Oct. 15, 1999
SUBJECT:
Engine Oil Pressure Light Flicker
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves adding a terminal/wire/vent to the oil pressure switch connector.
MODELS:
1998 - 1999 (LH) Concorde/Intrepid
NOTE :THIS BULLETIN APPLIES TO VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A 2.7L ENGINE.
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
With a hot engine the oil pressure light may be on or flicker on at idle.
DIAGNOSIS:
Verify engine oil pressure as described on page 9-21 of the 1999 Concorde/Intrepid/LHS/300M service manual (Publication No. 81-270-9140). If engine oil pressure is within specification perform the Repair Procedure.
PARTS REQUIRED:
1 05017800AA Wire Terminal/Vent
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
1. Raise vehicle on a suitable hoist.
2. Remove engine oil pressure switch connector from switch.
3. Remove sealing dart from the empty cavity at the rear of the connector.
4. Pull terminal locking ring outward from front (switch) side of connector to gain access to terminal locking tabs.
5. Install wire terminal/vent, p/n 05017800AA, in place of the removed sealing dart. Slide locking ring back into place.
6. Attach the connector back on the oil pressure switch.
7. Spot tape the wire/vent to follow the harness towards the top of the engine compartment.
In my case, it was a false read, and the oil pressure was just fine. However, it acted just like a real oil pressure problem, which had me worried. I also have a 1967 Pontiac Catalina that had what seemed to be the same problem. Once fully warmed up, at idle, the oil pressure light would come on. It also had an aftermarket gauge installed, and it confirmed the low reading. When the pressure got below about 18 psi, the idiot light would come on. That car idled so slow though, I'm surprised it didn't stall out at traffic lights. I tried bumping up the idle a bit, but that didn't totally solve the problem. Had my mechanic check it out, and he said to just run thicker oil in it. I had been using straight 30W, and we switched it to 20W-50, and I never had a problem with it again.
Because my Intrepid was acting just like my Catalina did (light only coming on at idle, when fully warmed up, and would go away if I put it in neutral and revved it a bit), it made me think there really was a problem with it. Fortunately, the TSB took care of it.
Anyway, good luck with it! Hopefully it's a minor issue and nothing expensive!
In my opinion I feel that both dealerships I spoke with have been very unprofessional and since this problem started after service was performed at the dealership, they should be the ones who should take care of it. Also, what happend to car manufacterers being required to make parts for cars for at least 10 years after production? I would appreciate any input on this matter.
Thank you Ken
Discontinued doesn't mean they cant still order it. The same part was used on 96 through 97 and you right they have to provide parts for 10 years.
Anyway heres a link I found a new one on line for $729 IIRC
http://www.trademotion.com/shoppingcart/index.cfm?action=viewCart&siteid=214583&- retval=index%2Ecfm%3Faction%3DgetJointLocator%26siteid%3D214583%26chapter%3D%26S- ectionids%3D18%2C0%26groupid%3D10002%26subgroupid%3D60775%26componentid%3D0%26ma- ke%3D8%26model%3DIntrepid%26year%3D1996%26catalogid%3D1
A/C evaporator replaced
Water leak from antenna mount
Cooling fan motors replaced
Replace both front windows
Replace hood and trunk struts
Replace brake booster
I still like my Intrepid and I plan on keep it, but if I was you I would not pay over 2,000 for the RT.
My biggest concern would be the transmission. While the 3.5 is a more reliable engine than the 2.7, it's also more strenuous on the transmission, because of the added power. If the tranny seems to operate fine, and the seller has service records showing it's been maintained, it would probably be okay.
I came close to buying a used 2002 Intrepid R/T with 35,000 miles on it back in late 2003. In the end, I'm glad I didn't though. It wasn't a bad car...nicer than my 2000 base model, which had about 86,000 miles on it at the time. However, I just didn't want to start over with a car payment, and at the time, I only had about 15 months left on my 2000.
Next, the real fun part was figuring out how to get it in. I'd seen these assemblies in the past where you reach in behind the assembly to get to them. Well, the air filter housing was in the way, so I started pulling it apart. Finally wrestled with it and got it out, only to see that there was no way in hell to get to the bulb from that way. Then, I noticed these two black bolts, about 13/32" I guess. I took them out, and voila...the whole cluster just lifted right out the front, and all the bulbs were easy to get to.
So, they actually make it pretty easy...as long as you do it the right way!
You should be aware that spark plug and timing belt and water pump change is due at 105,000 miles. I would negotiate that $400-$500 with the seller, if it hasn't been done.
It rides great, has a a big back seat and trunk. The back seat folds down (that's where he carries his surf board). I did help him put in a subwoofer last weekend. (BOOM, BOOM, BOOM .
Problems: 1. Speed sensor at about 25,000 miles
2. radiator Cooling fans at about 100,000 miles
The 2.7 has caused some owners problems, with sludge, if the oil and filter changes were no often. :shades:
Also, my headlight lenses have been clouding over on the inside, causing my lights to dim so much that I can hardly tell they are on while I'm driving. Is there any way to clean them out or do I just have to buy new lenses?
Thanks in advance for any help.
However, the clouding on the lenses is most likely to be on the outside (that's what has happened to everyone elses'). They can be made and clear by a process that takes awhile to achieve. Get some wet sandpaper (the kind used for autobody work) and some plastic polish. Put the plastic polish on the lenses and start sanding. Use fine, then progress to even finer sandpaper as you go. It can take some time, but a lot cheaper than buying lenses. Elbow Grease! :shades:
Has anyone ever priced an Intrepid headlight assembly? Back in 2004, a buddy of mine with a '95 Grand Marquis had to buy a new assembly. His had deteriorated so badly that it cracked along the bottom and was starting to fall apart! I remember the part itself was about $225, from the dealer, but at least came with all the bulbs in place. I tried to help him put it on, but couldn't figure it out. He had to pay a shop another $75 to put it on, so I imagine it was a bit more difficult than just the two long bolts that hold the Intrepid's in place.
Sadly, he spent $300 total to replace that cluster, and then the following month, traded the car in on a slightly used '04 Crown Vic, and only got $600 trade! He probably would've gotten the same amount whether he'd replaced it or not.
I read your comment about toothpaste. I read somewhere else to use toothpaste that is the old style--not gel--so that you get the limestone in it.
I tried it. It works. Keep adding fresh paste. Use a small piece of terrycloth. Rub. I did NOT use a toothbrush. I did NOT use sandpaper. I also used ScratchOut which I figured has grit. I also used Meguiar's plastic polish. I also used GM plastic polish from 1978 meant for interior lenses.
I have one lens on my Buick looking great. Mine was generally within 1-2 inches of the top edge of the plastic cover.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
As far as my wiper fluid problem, the pump had burned out which was a $150 repair. Murphy's Law was in full effect so I figured it wouldn't just be a cracked hose or something - it had to be the most expensive part of the system. :sick:
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No weather for brass monkeys! :P Enjoy the scrubbing. I hadn't heard of the toothpast idea. I guess some pumice would help, too.
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As far as my wiper fluid problem, the pump had burned out which was a $150 repair. Murphy's Law was in full effect so I figured it wouldn't just be a cracked hose or something - it had to be the most expensive part of the system.
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Ain't it always that way. :confuse: :shades:
The next day, going into work, doing about 40-45 mph, I felt the car, for lack of a better word, kick. I thought maybe it was the transmission, or the torque converter getting confused. Then it did it again about a half-mile later. But then that was it.
But then yesterday, when I got to work, pulling into the parking spot it cut out on me again. I had just enough momentum to drift into the spot and park. Put it into park, turned the key, and it fired right back up! :confuse: That made me think about when the car started kicking last week, that perhaps it was just about to stall, but didn't quite get there.
Any ideas on what it could be? The car has about 139,000 miles on it, and I just had new spark plugs put in. Maybe the mechanic simply left a loose wire somewhere? Or maybe the fuel filter is starting to go? But the two times the car has cut off completely, it would just do it instantly. I'm guessing if it wasn't getting enough fuel it would start to cough and sputter before stalling?
1999 Intrepid
134,000 miles
Uh oh, that's a scary thought! Do you regret putting that much money into your car? Have you bee pretty happy with it, otherwise?
I've been satisfied with my 2000 Intrepid. The only really expensive year I had was 2007, when I had to put about $2,000 into it. That included two new front bearing hubs, new front brakes, recharging the air conditioning, a coolant flush, new hoses, new transmission cooling lines, two new tires, some other part in the suspension that I'm forgetting about now, and probably a few other odds and ends I can't recall.
Too bad it can't be like the old days, when your car stalls out, and then $2.98 and a new ballast resistor later, you're on your way again!
It was not a waste of money though. I have 3 years since the Intrepid was paid off. Payments on the new van will run me $4,000 a year. So you got to figure the Intrepid costs a lot less to own.
Yeah, ain't that the truth! I figure that since I made my last payment in November, 2004, I've had to sink about $3400 into my Intrepid, plus gas & insurance. Not bad for roughly 40 months.
And in my case, the Intrepid is still my primary car. I have a roommate who doesn't have a car, and last year I had been letting him borrow the Intrepid, as he had to drive about 20 miles to work, whereas my commute is only about 3.5 miles. He'd pay for the gas and insurance, and give me money every month to help cover maintenance/repairs.
Nowadays though, he's only working about 5 miles away, so I'm having him drive my old '85 Chevy pickup, and I'm back to having the Trep as my main source of transportation.
I'm tempted sometimes to get a new car, but I just don't want to deal with getting back into a monthly payment, plus the increase in car insurance. So I'll probably just hang onto my Trep until something truly catastrophic breaks on it.
Yeah, I've been taking that perspective. At this point, my magic figure is $300 per month. I figure any halfway decent new car is going to cost at least that. So if I have to put $900 into my car and get another 3 months out of it, I'm happy. FWIW, I figure the car has averaged about $85 per month since it's been paid off. I've put around $3400 into it over the course of around 40 months. So theoretically, I could wind up putting another $8600 into it tomorrow, and still arrive at my $300 per month average. I'm not so sure I'd be willing to go that far! :surprise:
I think my tipping point would be the transmission. I hear a replacement on these cars is about $2500. At that point, I might be tempted to dump it and run. And if the engine ever needed to be replaced, that would definitely be the final nail in this car's coffin.
I'm really not that crazy about any of the new cars out there, though. I kinda like the Charger, but wouldn't get one with a 2.7. And next time around I want something a bit more economical than the 3.5. Plus, I never was that crazy about the Charger's interior quality. It just seems a bit cheap and plasticky, compared to the Intrepid.
The Pontiac G8 looks like it might be a cool car, but I'm not ready to plunk down $30K plus for a car. And again, there's the fuel economy concerns. Don't really care for the Camry or the '08 Accord either, although I do like the Altima. But not enough to get back into monthly payments.
Yes, there are clips clipped and cemented on to the window and these bolt to the mechanism. I bought them at a Dodge Dealer. The pair was about $20. Cement on with JB Weld or similar. Heat the existing clips gently and use a sharp knife to remove the old clips (Be gentle). :shades: