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  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    Emale... Good to see you're still up and about. How's the F150 treating you? Just got back from a few days vacation in the sunny south. Had the distinct "pleasure" (he said with oozing sarcasm) of driving a Chevy Impala for a rental. Was happy to get back into my ES when I got home.
    I would have to say that it's "unusual" to have that many sounds emanating from an Intrepid. My mother's 94 and my aunt's 93 have no such discernible cacaphony. On cold mornings you will get a squeak here or there over a bump--but all in all nothing so severe or distracting as reported above... Hmmmm...
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    jason,

    i haven't really driven the new truck much. trying to put all the miles on the ranger before it goes back to ford the first of december.

    anyway, i already miss the car! last week went home to visit the relatives and drove the ranger. crappy gas mileage and crummy seats for long distance. the supercrew has comfy seats but i'm sure gas mileage won't be any better than the rangers. are u still planning to go to detroit for the autoshow in jan? i hear the new ram is going to be unveiled. if the drawings i've seen of it are even close it should be a knockout! later.
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    I'll resist the temptation to be a smart [non-permissible content removed] and say...oh...."You asked for it" with regard to your new purchase. By the way...how did they treat you on your Trep for the trade? I assume, perhaps correctly or un, that you traded it on the SuperCrew?
    So far, so good, I'm on for the trip to NAIAS in Detroit. Can't wait to see new Ram and any other goodies they have lying about. Did you catch that last "computer enhanced" shot at Car-Truck? Looks great but too much like the current Ram. I really preferred that colored sketch they had several months back with the all red front--as compared to the chrome in the latest one. In any event--happy motoring. Are your SURE I can't convince you to hit Detroit? First rounds on me..
  • phardyphardy Posts: 12
    Thanks about the TSBs. I'll call the dealer right now.
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,676
    I have just returned from a trip to Panama City Beach. Driving down, 27.6 mpg, A/C on most of the time. Coming back, 28.4 mpg, A/C on only some of the time. Driver's seat still moves fore and aft (damn) but car performed well. Drove mostly between 65-75 mph.
  • phardyphardy Posts: 12
    Ok. I just called the dealer and explained my problem. He tells me "that's what the car is supposed to do. It's supposed to heat up the car and then cool it down to the specified temperature." I told him that it blows out cold air at any temperature up to 77 degrees after heating it up tremendously. Then he decided to set me up for an appointment.

    More to come when I come back from the shop on November 2nd.
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    jason,

    i would really like to check out the auto show but i have very little vacation time at present and what i do have is already spoken for. maybe one of these years...
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    Understandable... I'll give you the "blow by blow"... So..about the trade-in?
  • hayneldanhayneldan Posts: 657
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  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    jason,

    as i'm sure you know, trading in is tricky. the supercrew listed for nearly 34k. my trade difference was 10.5k. not too bad, but not great either. the supercrew has only been out since early summer and they seem to be selling well so real effective bargaining just wasn't in the cards...
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,676
    25000 mile service, and he quoted about $500.00. It includes transmission service (about $110), oil change ($25), change air filter, clean fuel injectors and throttle body. Is that worth $500? I told him I would probably do it in stages (giving me time to talk to you, the experts). The oil change and tranny service seem OK, but is the rest priced right? Thanks.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    marsha7-

    Man, have to watch you every minute! ;-)) You FELL for this? Go by the schedule in your OWNER'S manual. The dealer will try to sell you THEIR maintenance schedule, not Chrysler's. They all do this! You can change the air filter yourself. Takes 2 seconds. As for the fuel injectors, if you use a name brand fuel I don't think you have to worry about this either. They do sell name brand fuel injector cleaner in any automotive store that you can add to your gas if you're worried about them being clogged. See what the manual says about fuel additives. Maybe this is all the dealer does anyway.

    I'm sure others in the know will have a more definitive answer for you.

    fastdriver
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    marsha...marsha...marsha!!!

    what year is your trep? if it's a y2k, you don't need a tranny service as y2k models have atf+4 fluid which is supposed to never need changing unless you feel you fit the severe service requirements. i agree with fasdriver about fuel injectors. i usually would just run a tank of 10% ethanol thru my car every 5th tank or so. and, changing the fuel filter on schedule will probably negate the need for any fuel injector service. btw, did you ever get your auto climate control working properly??
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,676
    Hold on a second. I recall reading numerous posts about LH buyers changing the fluid in the tranny (a tranny service, if you will) in the 20-30K mile range, and they found their trannys were shifting better and smoother. I was looking forward to the same. While the dealer may have other motives, the tranny service made sense only because of what I have read in these posts!!! {I only hope I am not confusing the LH posters (Intrepid, LHS, 300M) with posters on some other topic like Lexus GS400 :) }

    Anyway, I truly was not sure if placing fuel injector cleaner in the tank was the same procedure as the "pros" use (as in 5-star dealers, yuk, yuk).

    Yes, I can certainly change my own air filter, but fuel filters can sometimes be placed in the most awkward places.

    To answer, since it cooled down, my A/C problem is hardly there (what else is new?) so it may have to wait until next season, which is annoying. While I do not need the air in winter, it annoys me to have something malfunctioning when the SOB's could have done something already.

    Maybe, my financial picture will improve by spring, the Nasdaq will be down to 1250, as I predict, the Dow will be down to 3500, as I predict, and P/E ratios will approach normal, Amazon will file Chapter 7 along with all the other Internet companies that rose on hype without substance, never had anything worthwhile to sell, and Bill Shatner will be back on Star Trek because Priceline will sell for 10 cents a share.

    Either way, Bush or Gore (Gore scares the daylights out of me, Bush not as much, would really like to see Buchanan or Browne win) I believe Greenspan will raise rates right after the election, so as not to be accused of "influencing" the election. Last note: the country may not be ready for him yet, for reasons that are obvious, but keep an eye on Alan Keyes. If you want to see a spirited debate, put Pat Buchanan and Alan Keyes in it and watch the sparks fly.

    Sorry to ramble.
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,676
    I rambled so bad I lost my thought. The reason for mentioning my financial picture to begin with was that maybe I could trade the Trep, and get something like the following: Audi A6, Lexus GS300, Acura RL/TL, VW Passat-Plus (280 HP according to the rumors), MB E430, Jaguar S-type 4.0, Vanden Plas Supercharged, or any one of many cars that I can only dream about now. If you care to comment on any of my aforementioned list of cars, feel free to do so.

    When you get to me my age, the mind does wither. As I have often described, I can remember what happened 30 years ago, I just can't remember what happened 30 MINUTES ago. LOL :):):):):)
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,050
    Hi Marsha,
    I contacted my dealer a few months ago about a 30K mile service, and they told me a whole BS list of things that it would need...spark plugs, coolant change, belts/hoses, lube the chassis, service the transmission, change the points in the distributor.

    Ok, I made that last one up ;-), but they seriously said "lube the chassis", which I couldn't believe. Now I believe the spark plugs and coolant should be good for about 100K miles, and, at the worst, the serpentine belt should be good for around 50K.

    I'm getting the tranny serviced, though, because the way I drive I know it's going to need it. There's a local shop that's always done good by me, who's going to do it. The car also needs new tires, which I ordered from Discount Tire, and as soon as they come in, I'm taking the car to the garage and having them do it all.

    Oh yeah, the dealer wanted something like $500.00 for their 30K mile "service".

    So, depending on how you drive, you probably don't need anything done at 25K miles. It might be a good idea to have a trustworthy mechanic check things over, but just as a precaution. As for the air filter, you can get one from a parts store for about $10.00, and it takes 2 minutes to put in. It's actually a fairly rare part, though, so you may have to order it. Our local Trak Auto does not stock it, but can order it. I ended up buying one at Yates Auto Parts, which had it in stock (but has since closed down, at least in our area) :-(.

    Anyway, good luck with your Intrepid...hope the dealer doesn't take advantage of you!

    -Andre
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    Marsha... You are correct...$500.00 is steep but more so for a comprehensive service SO EARLY in the life of a car than the service itself. The 50,000+ mile service on my wife's Diamante ran over $800.00 for just a bit more than you were having done. I think you've been well-advised by the group...have the oil and filters (air, fuel) replaced but little else I should think. With regard to the fuel injectors--Mitusbishi ran this (including an intake and injector cleaning) several times over the life of our Mitsbushi vehicles--we obliged once but not again. Imagine that on vehicles that recommend premium fuel.
    My recommendation would be to use good quality fuel and use a good quality gas treatment/fuel injector cleaner twice a year in your tank. That has consistently worked for our other vehicles. You are correct in that several of us have SUGGESTED and discussed changing the filter and fluid in our new Intrepids as a precaution. Think I'll have that done around 20-25K--I"m only at 15K now.
    Good luck and keep us appraised. Always remember to get the estimate up front, go with the standard schedule in your owner's manual, and feel free to say "I'd like to check with another dealer on the price of service, then I'll let you know"..
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    Marsha... In the second paragraph I'm referring to our suggestion and discussion of the TRANSMISSION oil and filter. Your recollections on that discussion are correct..
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    marsha,

    if your intrepid isn't a y2k than by all means change your tranny fluid and filter. however, if it is a y2k, then you can stretch it out some. a chrysler service told me he'd change the new fluid out at about 60k...even though the owner's manual says you never have to change it...my two cents.
  • kbt1kbt1 Posts: 3
    The autos you mention are all excellent choices. Edmunds lists the Passat as the most sought after 2001 sedan. I am sure all in the list would be a cut above anything Chrysler has to offer.
  • Trust your dealer,and a change of oil to your tranny will be good,stop listening to others,trust your service dept.
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,676
    years ago, I would NEVER trust a dealer, and always used independent mechanics to fix my cars. Starting in 1985, with my first (of four) Hondas, I never trusted anyone BUT the dealer. I have dealt with five Honda/Acura dealers, and they have all been competent and honest (IMO) with me. Having owned Hondas since 85, I have not dealt with a non-dealer mechanic in years, the the desired "trusted mechanic" does not exist in my world.

    P.S. Andre, it would be strange if they recommended points and condenser, considering Chrysler was the first (I believe) to convert to a (crude) electronic ignition system in 1972 (Watergate, anyone?)

    Bob
  • Looking for some help from your experience.

    I have a 1998 Intrepid and 1998 Intrepid ES--both iterations (which puts me in an interesting position to compare!

    I am planning on keeping the base Intrepid and selling the ES, but I would like to do two things before I do.

    Firsst I do like the alloys on the ES. I am sure they will mount no problem on my base sedan. BUT will the 15" wheels fit my ES? Bolt pattern? Brakes?

    If not, where can I find 1 set of 16" steel wheels and hubcaps that were optional in 98 and standard to present. I am sure they will fit my 1998 ES. Right?

    Second I would like to swap the Infinity CD system in the ES for the base Cassette Unit in my base model. DOes anyonehave any experience with such a swap? Do not want to fry the radio.

    The dealer has been indifferent to my requests. Think they would appreciate my two purchases, but....

    ANy help appreciated, especially where I might find parts!

    Thanks!
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    steve,

    why don't you make it easy on yourself and just keep the es model? looks to me like you are trying to turn your base model into an es anyway...
  • You can easly change wheels and swap radios with no problem,a friend of mine made that just two weeks ago with no problem at all.
    And it was very easy to perform it,the radio has just 4 screws,and that´s it!
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    davidu,

    what size is run on the "regular" 300m? that would probably work good...
  • ENGINE DIED AS IT GOT UP TO SPEED DEALER SPENT 22 HOURS AND SAYS ENGINE WIRING HARNESS ($1300)IS BAD.RAN JUMPERS PAST CAM AND TIMING WIRES TO SENSORS AND IT RUNS BUT NOT RIGHT. REPLACED COMPUTER BUT NO CHANGE. NEEDS REPLACED AT 45,000 MILES ,ITS ON ME. ANY ONE ELSE HAD THIS PROBLEM ANY HELP WOULD BE NICE THANKS.
  • Ask the help and supervision of a DC service rep.
  • wow, copperhead is everywhere!
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,050
    Well gang, it was on this day one year ago that the relationship with my Intrepid was started. November 6, 1999. 147 miles on the clock. Now, one year and 31,100 miles later, no real problems to report. The silver paint is still nice and shiny, although the front and rear plastic doesn't quite match. I've had the tranny serviced, the alignment checked (didn't need adjusting, though), a new air filter and pcv valve, and a set of new tires.

    I must say that this past year has shown about the most uneventful, trouble-free 30K miles I've ever put on a car! Down-time has been minimal...a few days back in Feb when the car got a flat tire in my grandmother's driveway and was basically buried in the snow. I left it and drove another car until it thawed out. One day back in May when I dropped it off at the dealer to have the tranny checked out because of it's occasional refusal to engage. A few days in July after some knucklehead broke into it at 6-Flags America, and it was laid up in the body shop, and then Circuit City for an alarm system. And finally one day last week, to have the tranny serviced and new tires put on. Total time out...maybe 9 days.

    Now, let's just pray the next 365 days are as uneventful and worry-free!

    -Andre
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