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Older Acura TLs

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,495
    Just my opinion... I think if you re-read my post, you'll see no harm intended. And no mud.

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  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    If you really need extra space, get a hitch-mounted cargo carrier. I just bought one for my CR-V for about $150 (far less than a roof-mounted box, and less wind noise). Hitches can be had for less than $100. Of course that's not a great solution if you need extra space every day.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,495
    Its a valid point... Its even mentioned when people buy 2-seat convertibles. One of the pros of the Porsche Boxster is the storage space compared to an S2000. Probably not the main point for most people, but we all have different needs. Just because the marketing people call it a sports sedan, doesn't mean you can't use it for a family car.

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  • s852s852 Posts: 1,051
    You should replace your battery when it starts to get weak. If the car was sitting overnight, it is actually more likely to start than if you tried to start the car 10 minutes later. The lights are not draining the battery overnight since they are only on 30 seconds.
    Often the charge comes back enough to restart the car after it has been sitting for a while. Many people have called tow trucks for dead batteries, but by the time the tow truck arrives, the car is able to start without jumper cables.
    If the battery is so weak that leaving the lights on for 30 seconds kills it, it was time for a new battery months ago.
  • Bottom line, it is a give and take. Also known as a compromise. To me, as long as a set of sticks will fit back there, I am fine with it. If that drivers seat does not go back far enough...that is a different story.
    (Of course having a full-size SUV in the other bay of the garage solves most space issues that come up!)
  • i'll take more handling vs. trunk space any day...i'm glad Acura is taking a more sporty philosophy with their new TL. In my opinion their are a lot of luxury sedans with tons of space out their like the es 330. I'm glad acura went in the direction they did...i'll deal with the lack of trunk space. BTW...i've read that they've confirmed that the new TL has a lockable pass through & the rear seats can also fold down!
  • Yeah, the trunk space should be greater. It would be nice if the car had more like 14 or 15 cu. ft. But, I can live with 12.5 and doubt trunk space will be a deal breaker for anybody.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    KingGeorge - Thanks. I was looking at pics of the TL's trunk (the back wall) and noted that there is a V-shaped section around the pass-through. Is that the part that is left open when you fold the seats forward?
  • We should rename this discussion group "obsession with '04 TL trunk"
  • s852s852 Posts: 1,051
    The seats do not fold forward.
  • No, but there is a trunk pass through.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    that yes, having a Odyssey, Pilot, MDX, Expedition or Excursion would solve most trunk problems. After all, the Odyssey does have a fold-down third row!!!!
  • gouldngouldn Posts: 217
    To me, I can deal with a smaller trunk if the seats fold-down. I rarely carry passengers, but prefer a 4-dr for the times when I do. I occasionally carry larger items (R/C planes), and having a fold-down seat allows me to use a sedan almost as a wagon. I wonder why more cars do not have this feature ... is it expensive to add, or considered an 'anti-luxury' feature?
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I think a fold-down seat has a negative effect on the structural rigidity of the car, the same way a sunroof also weakens the structure. And there's the anti-luxury thing too. Rich folks don't need to haul bulky items with their own cars, or at least would have another vehicle more suited to such peasant labour!
  • skip30skip30 Posts: 33
    You should look at the trunk before you knock it. Looks plenty big to me. Skip
  • Flat out gorgeous. I live in Ft. Myers, FL. Scanlon Acura had two AT's in. They are not allowed to sell them until the 6th. The salesman said they are going to Miami next week for a big intro show. Its funny how everyone on these boards knows 10X more than the dealers about these cars.

    They had one white, one black, both with camel leather. With that color interior, you get wood inlays (I think they are fake, but look great) instead of the carbon-fiber trim. The cabin is beautifully layed out. Seats are comfortable. My quick impression was that they could have a little more lateral support, but that is nit-picking. I really like the look and feel of the steering wheel. Plenty of room in the back seat. I put the drivers seat all the way back and then sat in the back. I had no trouble fitting comfortably (I am 6 feet tall). Very comfortable back seat as well. BTW, the trunk is plenty big enough. You may not get the fourth golf bag in, but 3 easy.

    The black was gorgeous. The car is simply striking in that color. I will test drive one next week. I probably will wait for a 6-speed to come in for that, though.

    BTW, they were $33,150, I believe. No Nav. They are MSRP, but no mark-up. (Down the street, Nissan is trying to sell a Maxima 3.5SE for $40K!!! That's more than $6K in rediculous add-ons and straight mark-up. I laughed at that guy.)

    I asked the Acura dealer about A-SPEC versions, but he had never heard of them. We will see when he returns from Miami.
  • s852s852 Posts: 1,051
    It should have been real wood for $32K, but hopefully it is not so obviously fake and cheap-looking as the current TL.
    $32K is not that that bad when you consider that you can probably almost spend $32K on a fully loaded V6 VW Passat GLX.

    The Passat has real wood though.
  • What color 04 TL's come with fake wood? I thought most had the dark carbon fiber stuff?
  • s852s852 Posts: 1,051
    The black/gray interiors get something else (likely aluminum trim like the TSX).
  • jmessjmess Posts: 677
    One of the reason I passed on the previous TL was due to the rear seat(s) not folding down. Looks like Acura didn't figured out that even folks that can afford to UPS bulky items between Costco and home still want some basic utility. It was really a dumb move not to fix this in the new car.
  • zhangqjzhangqj Posts: 15
    While waiting for service of my TL, I test-drove a TSX 6MT, nice little dressed up Accord, but not impressed. I did see the new 2004 TL in the lot. They look ok, not as bad as BMW E60. It has a few more features but costs more. Dealer told me that the 2004 TL with 6MT will come in Nov. I will definitely want to test that one. However I am kinda disappointed when told that there is no plan Acura will put that 270 horses to the rear axles! I dont understand why. Honda certainly knows how to do it. The NSX in the dealer lot is awesome (except the price)!
  • s852s852 Posts: 1,051
    You already commented that it cost more as it is. It would have added even more to development costs and the price to switch the design to rear wheel drive.
    It is more likely that the new RL might be rear wheel drive to make it stand out more as the flagship so there will be fewer people saying "why should I pay so much more for an RL when I can just get a rear wheel drive TL?"
    It would not be surprising if in a year or two a AWD version of the TL came out with over 270HP.
    If the new TL is handling the current 270HP well, then making it rear wheel drive would have been a wasted added cost just to say it had rear wheel drive plus you would get more people complaining about handling in snow etc..
  • It is true that fold down seats compromise structural integrity. The way Nissan mitigated this was by making the opening smaller. When you fold the seat down you don't get an opening as big in area as the seatbacks. Instead you get a fairly good size "hole" probably half the area of the seatbacks.
  • My TSX has fold down seats, and it handles great. Same was true of the old Honda Prelude.
  • It is correct that the brown-toned interiors get wood trim. The gray/black interiors get carbon-fiber. All have aluminum trim.. It is in a different place than the other trim.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,873
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  • I just bought a new 04 TL yesterday. It is such a sweet car! They were not supposed to go on sale until the 6th, but dealers were received authorization to sell them early. I bought a blue automatic without the navigation system. Nothing else in this class even comes close to this car.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Congrats on an Abyss Blue TL! Did you get the Camel interior or the Quartz?
  • I got the Quartz interior. The aluminum/carbon fiber look is awsome. very modern looking.
  • kennyg5kennyg5 Posts: 360
    I also have that feature in my car, which I think is quite nice, especially when you have to go through several dark tunnels during the daytime. The only problem with this feature is that it turns the xenon HIDs on and off repeatedly, which I do not believe is good for the expensive HIDs. Perhaps by giving you this convenient feature, the automakers think you will have to buy more replacement headlights from them in the long run. Am I being cynical?
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