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I've had paint that was affected by droppings and the usual result is that the paint finish effectively becomes etched by the droppings i.e. it eats through paint.
No automotive finish available today will resist droppings if left on for any length of time, I'm not talking about weeks either a couple of days can often be sufficient to cause the damage. The best thing to do it to remove them as soon as you see them and keep the wax up to the car.
Chips are more likely to be the product of stones, careless people opening doors and with things like shopping trolleys, no paint finish can resist these things either.
Darker colours do tend to show up chips and marks more than lighter colours.
I've been polishing mine this weekend and noticed some chips on it - clearly the product of stones (and one that was obviously caused by someone opening a door onto me). Unfortunately with consumers liking things like painted bumpers chips are unavoidable.
By the way, the Elantra is a great car and the November issue of Car and Driver confirms it. They even preferred it over the Toyota Corolla and that means a lot.
Please drive both and decide later.
I agree with desg. You will not get paint chips from bird droppings....but you will get paint blemishes. Every vehicle with clear coated paint is susceptible to this problem. And in the hot sun, the damage can be done in just a few hours. The only way to combat it is to carry a cloth in your car, wet it well and carefully remove the droppings. Don't rub them because they will scratch the finish.
I was just posing a question. The fact that Elantra owners report their satisfaction or dissatisfaction with their Elantra does not mean having a negative opinion about other cars and brands, just the fact that they decided the Elantra was better for them.
In fact, my wife owns a beatiful 2002 Elantra and could not be happier!
Since the Elantra was in my shopping list when I bought my Echo is proof that I seriously considered it.
The only reason I bought an Echo is the fact that it is very economical to operate. No repairs whatsoever in 18 months and 60K miles. Average MPG is 41.7. Try to match that with an automatic Elantra! (my wife's Elantra is getting 32 MPG, same type of commute).
Maybe the key is that it doesn't bake in the sun being in the carport. I'll be careful with those baked on droppings.
You can go somewhere else for service, you know. It will be cheaper (probably) than the dealer too. Just keep all your papers, and you will be fine should an issue arise in the future.
Congratulations.
The best surprise was that they list the GT 4-door rather than the GLS as a competitor to their BASE 4-door sedan. Even with that odd comparison, the Elantra comes in at roughly the same price, with still more standard features and advantages (regardless of where Chevrolet marks certain questionable Cavalier "advantages"). I shouldn't seem so surprised: it's easy to outshine such an old American design.
Don't want to get too far afield on an Elantra site, but the Cav. although crude as hell was always one of the more attractive Chevy products. Now it has looks to match its crudeness. Mr. Lutz, you should have used the $$$ to bring the replacement out a few months earlier.
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Otherdandat let's get back to Elantra talk!
Someone in the Corolla threads recently replaced their stock tires with highly-rated Dunlop SP Sport A2 with very favorable results, something I will try when the time comes. Has anyone tried these yet on the Elantra? Also, how many miles have we gotten out of our stock Michelins (next highest rated all-season in CR)? I have just over 20K miles, so I am curious roughly how many more miles I can expect.
There are no Kumho dealers in the St. Louis area (one Hankook if I remember right). It seems that Ecstas (from memory, do I have the name right?) usually get high ratings. With the low cost of the Won Korean tires should give you as good a deal as Korean cars. Anyone tried them?
At this point, it looks like I'll be getting close to 50K on my Michelins.
Vocus... sorry, I should not use obscure acronyms like GCS. It's Grand Caravan Sport.
I know in the old days, "snow" tires were used ONLY during the winter (the big, wide sipes created a noisy ride, poor handling due to less contact with the road surface and they wore out really fast because the rubber was softer). I.e., old-style snow tires were terrific in snow, but on dry pavement, they kind of stunk.
Out of curiosity, has anyone used Blizzaks or Alpins year-round? Does it sound nutty to do that?
There are four distinct problems with using dedicated winter tires all year round. 1) Winter tires' rubber compounds are softer, so they flex properly at winter temperatures; therefore, they wear faster. 2) The Arctic-Alpin has a "Q" speed rating (99 mph), whereas the MXV4 Energy Plus has an "H" speed rating (130 mph), since the tire's speed rating should match or exceed the vehicle's rated top speed (Elantra's is 120 mph). Well, even if you'll never exceed, say, 90 mph, 3) the Uniform Tire Quality Grade (UTQG) rating on the OE tire is 400AA ("400" indicates a fairly long tread life, "A" for traction, "A" for temperature); the Arctic-Alpin doesn't even carry a UTQG rating. And 4) winter tires are made for snow, not dry pavement -- certainly not hot dry pavement -- so they'll eventually overheat, even at 75 to 80 mph; and they can't approach the handling characteristics of the luxury touring OE tires.
You can confirm most of this on Michelin's web site. The Arctic Alpin is in the Passenger Car section, and the MXV4 Energy Plus is in the Performance Luxury section of the Tire Catalog.
In short, it's a terrible idea. Don't do it.
Always thought it was odd that there are "wholesalers" on these boards who talk about Hyundais and Kias going at 50 cents on the Edmunds/BlackBook/Kelley dollar-- i.e. "I paid $3000 for a 2000 Elantra in clean condition at auction, blah,blah,blah" and yet my experience has been high asking prices at the dealer level.
Apparently these things are cash cows by dealers, pay nothing and sell for top bucks!
My one-way commute to work is 35 miles daily. And my 2002 Jetta will be a year old on Nov. 3, and it currently has 24,565 miles as of today.
Not one problem so far, average MPG 41.8 (US gallons).
Fuel economy improved DRAMATICALLY after about 10K. For the last few tankfuls, I've been averaging 38mpg (I switched my hours at work so I miss both the morning and afternoon rush hours - now I don't have all the stop-and-go dragging my MPG's down anymore).
I still love my car. Plus, I get compliments on how it looks all the time (how often do you get those in a $13K car?).
Being a second owner, you should also investigate how much, if any, warranty protection remains on the car you're interested in. The 10/100 warranty is not transferred at 100% to 2nd owners.
I'm pushing 27K miles on my '01 GLS and like it more and more. Best car I've ever had!!!