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Older Honda Accords

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  • blackexv6blackexv6 Posts: 490
    "A firmer, sportier ride is part of the Accord's personality."

    I agree and like the sportiness of the Accord, however, Honda sacrifices the cars ability to handle potholes, expansion joints, etc. The Accord's suspension cannot handle Eastern Pennsylvania's rough roads (potholes)from harsh winters & salt. My Accord is awesome on freshly paved highways, very quiet and excellent handling. Take the car through the city where roads are in poor shape and you'll see. I guess if you live in a warm climate with smooth roads than the choppy ride is a moot point.

    "Second, because the car that provides this soft ride that you clearly treasure so much already exists. It's called the Camry."

    Contrary to what you think, I prefer the Accord's styling, 240HP V6, and interior over the Camry. I am not interested in a pillowy soft ride...just a car that can absorb rumble strips, grooves in the road, etc. The Accord is a great car overall but for every day usage & 4 hour trips the ride needs to be more accomodating.

    "That's why there are so many cars on the market, with so many different levels of suspension tuning for ride and handling."

    I disagree. For under 25k, the Accord is the only sedan option out there with an excellent reliability record & resale value.
  • talon95talon95 Posts: 1,110
    "I guess if you live in a warm climate with smooth roads than the choppy ride is a moot point."

    You assume incorrectly, my friend. I hail from Wisconsin, with harsh winters and potholes galore. I live in the Milwaukee area and work in Milwaukee, as well as having friends and relatives there, so I have plenty of city experience. And based on this experience, I continue to stand by my earlier comments. Again, our difference are a matter of our perceptions. Im my opinion, my Accord is fine for everyday use and for 4 hour trips.

    Again, I think the results from Consumer Reports speak volumes. They even specifically praise the Accord's ride on bumpy roads. What you call a rough ride is not viewed that way by me (again, NOT from a warm climate with smooth roads) nor by those testers who tend to favor ride.

    "I disagree. For under 25k, the Accord is the only sedan option out there with an excellent reliability record & resale value."

    Well, there are few cars that are perfect for everyone... every car presents some compromises based on your preferences. I guess you've found the Accord's compromises for you.

    Sorry that I don't agree with you, but I simply don't. That's the bottom line.
  • chucko3chucko3 Posts: 793
    You said that "reducing the tire pressure has a minimal effect on the overall ride". So let me share my experience with you.

    Honda recommends 26psiF/26psiR for my 89 Accord. I tried to increase the pressure to 30psi to see if I can get a better gas milage out of it. The first thing I noticed right away was the ride was rough and stiff. So I keep 26F/26R for now.

    Honda recommends 32psiF/30psiR for my 03EXV6. I keep it that way.
    The other day when the outside temp soared to 90F, I noticed the ride a bit rougher than normal on a 50 mile trip. I checked the front tire pressure. It was 38 psi on both tires. The heat increased the pressure by 6 psi. That's probably why I felt the ride rougher.
    I am experimenting 30F/30R for the hot months.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Posts: 4,202
    While I admit the Accord has a firm ride for a family sedan I don't think it is absurdly rough. Although we also have a 03 Civic SI with 17" wheels and Eibachs and a 04 Odyssey so obviously we prefer a firmer riding vehicle to start with.

    Someone who feels the Accord is just "a bit firm" might find they like it more with a slight adjustment of the tire pressure. However, you are correct when you say someone who wants a softer ride will not be happy with the Accord even if they do check/adjust the tire pressure.
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    BUT, what Accord owner can complain? the easiest way to prevent not being happy with the Accord ride is to test drive BEFORE you buy it.

    not sure why Honda should change its designs to meet NON-Honda buyers....does that make good business sense?
  • accord7accord7 Posts: 96
    Why is it that Honda does not, or cannot fix their headliner problems? My 1990 Accord rattled constantly in the moonroof area. My brothers Accords (1995 and 1999) rattle on a regular basis in the headliner and moonroof area. Many posters are complaining about this problem in the 03 and 04 Accord. I say again, why is it that Honda can't solve this problem? They carry it forward with each new generation. I figure they either don't care, or it's above their engineers capabilities.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Posts: 3,475
    We've owned 6 Accords total ranging from 1990 to 2004. No headliner rattles.
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    it has something to do with sunroofs. my 97 Civic had no sunroof, and no headliner rattle. my 01 Civic rattled, and my 03 Accord does too.

    the dealer fixed my Civic though. i haven't had the Accord in to the shop for rattles yet, that is why i was hoping to see a TSB i could take TO THEM so they can't act all stupid like service departments often do with regard to rattles.
  • venus537venus537 Posts: 1,443
    i'm referring to the good ole days when we were both driving our jettas. i remember reading some not too flattering comments about accords. sorry for not being clear.
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    go to the problem boards, i still rant about my issues with Accords.

    but yes, when i was driving a Jetta, the Accords that were out (98-02) were, in my opinion, overpriced Corollas from the outside and overpriced Civics on the inside.

    that changed in 03 when they gave it some STYLE :)

    i just drove the Accord about 50 miles this morning. coming from my Miata, it is FAST! (i have the V6)
  • venus537venus537 Posts: 1,443
    agreed - i could never bring myself to get an accord sedan from that generation. i did get a coupe though.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Posts: 4,202
    I still miss looking at my 2001 Accord EX V6 coupe in Nighthawk Black with a set of 17" Konig Tantrums on it. Still kinda miss looking at my 03 Accord EX-L coupe in Nighthawk Black with spoiler, fog lights, body-side molding, and tinted windows too.

    But I have faith that once I get around to tinting my windows and I find a suitable set of 17" wheels for my Satin Silver 04 sedan (fog lights, front chin spoiler, and rear decklid spoiler) I will enjoy looking at it just as much.
  • cottongincottongin Posts: 10
    I'm trying to decide between an Accord and a Camry. The Toyota dealer told me that the Accords need Valve Adjustments every 7,500 miles. He said the maintenance issues on the Accords is much higher than on the Camrys. True?? We're going to be buying a car by Memorial Day. Please help.
  • talon95talon95 Posts: 1,110
    I just checked my 2003 owners manual and the maintenance item "inspect valve clearance" is recommended as follows:

    4-cylinder - 110,000 miles
    6-cylinder - 105,000 miles

    This is for both the normal and severe schedules... it's one item that doesn't change. And that's the only recommended maintenance item for valves.

    There are probably minor differences here and there, but I believe it's safe to say that the Camry and Accord are in the same general area regarding maintenance intervals and costs.

    I guess my bigger concern would be... if the dealer is lying to you about this, what else is he lying to you about? Or if he's not "lying" but just misinformed, what else is he misinformed about?

    It's hard to go wrong with either car. However, if you decide to go with a Camry, I might consider a different dealer if I were you.
  • richards38richards38 Posts: 606
    Both Accord and Camry are low-maintenance cars. Note that the Accord 4 cyl. has a timing chain not a belt that must be replaced at some point.

    In choosing between the Accord and Camry, the biggest issue will be the ride--these cars are quite different (LX or EX Accord vs LE Camry). The Camry is very soft-riding and the Accord is much firmer.

    I prefer a tighter ride, so bought the Accord. But if you like a floaty ride, go with the Camry........Richard
  • slawendaslawenda Posts: 101
    Has anyone actually purchased/installed the optional metal trim for their Accord interior? I can only find one picture of it on the internet, and unfortunately the only picture is on an otherwise beige interior--a poor combination in my opinion. I was wondering what it would look like with the black interior, especially the EX models. If anyone has it or especially if you have a picture of it, please share your comments and/or photos! Thanks.
  • tlaurotlauro Posts: 504
    if you are interested in preventing the rise in pressure due to heat, consider checking local tire shops for a Nitrogen Filler. Costs here for me was $10. Benefits are no rise in pressure due to heat and pressure loss over time....pretty much non-existant.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,371
    This was discussed in tires, tires, tires and the nitrogen, like other gases, has an expansion following Boyle's (?) Law. Since the air you already have in your tire is 78% Nitrogen, I can't see how it could have no expansion nor can I see any advantage to paying to have nitrogen put into your tire. Also since they probably don't suction down the air in the tire after it's installed on the wheel to a vacuum, there's air already in the tire/wheel assembly. They just add nitrogen only after that, leaving the oxygen and CO2 and other minor gases in there.

    I'll have to check my chem books on this one. We have a local (Cincy) tire francise touting nitrogen for the cars. They wore out advertising free alignment so they switched to free nitrogen,but only for customers.
  • cottongincottongin Posts: 10
    Is it true that the front air bag on the passenger side will auto turn off if there the person in the front does not weigh enough? There isn't a manual switch, correct? I have an 11 yr old child (86lbs) and I'm wondering how this will work with him if he happens to be riding in the front.
  • ebart1ebart1 Posts: 12
    I insisted that the silver-coloured 'metal trim' be installed in my silver/black cloth interior '03 LX-4 Accord as it offers a great contrast to the all-black interior---and complements the exterior silver just fine.
    Sorry---I don't have a photo to submit. And yes, I recommend this accessory; it is a dealer-installed feature---at a price. However I negotiated mine as a 'loyalty-discount'---having bought a '95 Civic from the same dealer---as well as having had my car serviced exclusively by the same dealer. Best of luck.
  • ken972ken972 Posts: 162
    Yes you are correct. The owners manual talks a little about it. There is a sensor in the seat that will turn the passenger side off when it senses someone who is small or not sitting correctly. The light comes on right away when it happens to me.
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    when i was looking at Accords (03 models), they came standard with either faux-metal (black and gray interiors) or faux-wood (ivory interior). is that not standard anymore?
  • ironmanterpironmanterp Posts: 57
    My suggestion would be for you to take advantage of Edmunds wonderful Total Cost to Own (affectionately known as TCO) feature. TCO is Edmunds analysis of ownership costs over the first 5 years of ownership. You can access it by going to the New Car section, pick out the Toyota and Honda model you are interested in, and clicking on TCO on the left. You will find a quick breakdown and explanation of the factors Edmunds analyzed, which include maintenance and repairs.

    Good luck!
  • cottongincottongin Posts: 10
    Is it true that the front air bag on the passenger side will auto turn off if there the person in the front does not weigh enough? There isn't a manual switch, correct? I have an 11 yr old child (86lbs) and I'm wondering how this will work with him if he happens to be riding in the front.
  • talon95talon95 Posts: 1,110
    "Yes you are correct. The owners manual talks a little about it. There is a sensor in the seat that will turn the passenger side off when it senses someone who is small or not sitting correctly. The light comes on right away when it happens to me."

    I think this applies only to the passenger's side air bag. I don't believe that the front air bag on the passenger side turns off, although being dual stage, it can sense a smaller person and/or a lower speed crash and deploy at a reduced setting.

    So I'd just make sure that your son is properly belted at all times, and the front air bags should adjust accordingly in the hopefully unlikely event of a crash.
  • abpelch1abpelch1 Posts: 48
    LX & DX Accords do not come with the faux-metal or faux-wood trim. The trim on those models are black.
  • catamcatam Posts: 331
    I bought an 04 EX-l 2 weeeks ago, with the metal trim interior. I actually think it is polished alluminum. I like the look alot, it is very clean, my wife loves it. Don't have any pics, but I'd be supprised if your local dealer doesn't have one on the lot.
  • browningmbrowningm Posts: 6
    There are two sensors sensing different things. The first senses weight. If whatever in the seat is light enough, the airbag off in the center of the dash turns on and the passenger airbag turns off. If the seats occupant is leaning to the right in the path of the side airbag, then a light in the gauge cluster turns on saying the side airbag is off. So... both airbags have sensors and turn on and off automatically.
  • slawendaslawenda Posts: 101
    Thanks for those of you who replied about the metal trim. As a follow-up, do you know if the trim is "removable", if for some reason you are not happy with it (or are you stuck with it)? I know it is applied by some fancy 3M tape/adhesive, and I imagine there must be a way to remove it? Also, for "catam" -- what color interior is your car? Anyone else who would like to comment on the metal trim--I would appreciate it. And if anyone has any pictures of it, please share! Thanks.
  • slawendaslawenda Posts: 101
    I forgot to add--for those of you who paid for the metal trim, how much did you pay for it? Thanks.
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