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Older Honda Accords

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  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Well, he just said what I felt after the first test drive. There's something different about the Accord; a certain quality that I didn't find among the other contenders.
  • bryan200kbryan200k Posts: 64
    I've had my 07 Accord SE I4 for almost two weeks now. I've been alternating between my 2000 Malibu and the Accord to drive to work. (Just trying to keep the BU running some). Even though I do 'feel the road' more in the Accord, I just love the handling and turning radius.

    Last weekend, I had to go to a retreat and my wife TOLD ME that she wanted to drive the Accord, and I could take the 'old' car. "Yes Dear!". This is a woman that could care less what she drives, so long as it gets her from A to B.

    When I got home from the retreat, she didn't comment on the car to me, but I asked my son 'what Mom thought'. He replied, "Mom Loved the car. She wants to drive it on days that you don't take it to work". She thought it handled very nice, the seats felt firm and comfortable (cloth seats), and she really likes having the audio controls on the steering wheel. My daughter felt the rear seating was roomy and comfortable.

    I'll post my gas mileage figures the end of next week, in the Gas Mileage thread.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Not even an Accord should be expected to take this kind of abuse for long. And the guy who took this video wants to know why his clutch is slipping. There should be a LAW!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duNIOvauSVc
  • wise1wise1 Posts: 90
    What speeds should I drive at in my new SE Accord for this trip? Use the CC and vary the speed often?? Mostly interstate some rural and some city, will be required. The good thing is I'm heading south so that should help. The car has 778 miles on the odo and will have probably over 1000 when I leave at the end of the month. What has been your experience on a long trip with your new car?? What gas mileage have you gotten?? :) :shades:
  • saleemsaleem Posts: 114
    I heard that the 08 Accord Sedan will be fully english/metric. For instance, right now the speedometer has mph and km/h. In the 08 model, the tachometer will also show radians per second (rad/s). Any confirmation?

    ... /sarcasm
  • What is he doing, powershifting? (Keeping throttle wide open while changing gears)?
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    What is he doing, powershifting? (Keeping throttle wide open while changing gears)?

    Exactly. Poor Accord. :sick:
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    1989 Honda Accord Acceleration

    This is how our speed-shifting friend's Accord will likely be running in a couple of years, at that rate. Take note, the car in the video is 18 years old (probably 17 when the video was shot).
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Then these idiots come on forums like this one, and want to know why their clutch (or whatever) has gone out after only 35k miles. Then others on the forum think the car is to blame.

    One young punk (on another forum) was revving his automatic, then dropping it in drive (trying to destroy it), so his parents would pay for a manual swap. This was an 04 Accord less than one year old at the time. Then the parents are upset because Honda will not cover the transmission under warranty, and tell everyone they know Honda makes crappy transmissions.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    That's pitiful. And here I am nervous about changing from reverse to drive without coming to a full and complete stop!
  • saleemsaleem Posts: 114
    Does he want to kill his car or is he just so stupid that he doesnt know how to drive a stick
  • tallman1tallman1 Posts: 1,874
    What speeds should I drive at in my new SE Accord for this trip?

    I believe the manual says that you should be okay after 600 miles.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    I think he thinks he's a race car driver. Problem is race cars only have to last as long as the race (500 miles, at the most). His car may last more than 500 miles, but at this rate, it won't be breaking any longevity records.
  • neteng101neteng101 Posts: 176
    Drive it and enjoy it... I wouldn't worry too much about speeds and such at that point. The engine will continue to loosen up for the first couple of thousand miles.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,530
    did anyone else notice the genius's seatbelt light is on. :0

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Ha, good catch! And not the least bit surprising, eh?
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    I guess the only thing worse than not caring about your car, is not caring about your own life (or probably anyone else's life).
  • Both seatbelt and SRS light are on so no airbags as well.
  • redsfan1redsfan1 Posts: 58
    I am finally going to get my new accord, v6, se version tomorrow. Do you think this is a good price below? Any tips on if you think I can negotiate more. I was thinking maybe seeing if I could get 500 off the vehicle price? What do you think.

    Thanks!

    Here is what I was quoted below from the internet department of a Honda dealership in Ohio.--
    Our Out the Door Price (OTD) with all taxes and fees is below.

    Vehicle Price = $20,628
    Lien, Title, Reg., Doc. Fees = $275.50
    6.5% Sales Tax = $1,357.07
    OTD Price = "$22,260.57
  • saleemsaleem Posts: 114
    Hey redsfan. Please review SE V6 prices on http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef7c304.ef006d2 the prices paid forum.

    Though I'm no expert on the V6's, people were saying $20,500 was good, but IDK if it was with destination (20.5 falls in a gray area). Invoice on that car (auto i assume?) is $21,043, so I thought you'd find $750 off if you pushed ($20,300). Not sure. My advice is to review the posts in that forum, search recently for SE V6's, and see what's been thrown around as a good price.

    Good luck with your soon-to-be new car!
  • jbl8jbl8 Posts: 40
    I thought that American’s standard is to start with praises and then criticisms follow. But since I said almost perfect already, let me pick out all the problems first. Plus, criticism is for improvement and for better.

    What have they done with the driver seat! It must be spies from Ford, or GM, or Toyota! I have a Honda Accord LX 1998 and Accord LX 2002, both have two large knobs to adjust the driver seat, in height and tilt, of cause, another lever for recline, which is PERFECT! Alas, on the new Accord, you only have one level to adjust the seat height, not the tilt. It is really not comfort that you are only able to adjust the seat height. STUPID, why would Honda mess up with the perfect design? How much could it save to use a single level? I bet for this stupidity, thousands of less Accord sales are ensured. I learned that only on EX models you get power adjustments on both height and tile.

    Well, well, as a working man’s horse, no needs for anything fancy, but functionality. I would implore Honda to put the old driver seat design back immediately. You don’t have to change the things that work perfectly for thousands of years, put your energy of improvement somewhere else!

    It is too long. After I parked my car inside my garage, I found the end of the car is too close to the garage door. Now I realized that the new Accord is at least 6 inches longer than my old 2002 Accord LX. Cars are getting longer and wider (not higher though, I did not chose EX model, because of the header room infringed by moon roof), it is just a bad fad to follow. There is a size limit to anything. Not all “up-sizing” is good, like the French Fry of MacDonald. The Accord of last centaury may be a little small, but the Accord 2002 is already fairly big after the fad of “up-sizing”. Consider that most people drive the Accord for commuting during the weekdays, what’s all the space for? Even during weekend, it’s a family car, which means only kids will seat on the back not adults. You simply don’t sacrifice the needs of 99% customers, just to cater the 1% who needs more roomy backseats. “Up-sizing” that’s the “motor trend” leads demise of American cars, Honda probably shall not follow too enthusiastically.

    MPG. Finally! Honda is supposed to be a economy car, besides its reliability, its the gas mileage that put its foot in American market. I believe that Honda caught in the trap of another fad – performance. Yes, I like performance, but with sense. Plus, the gas price is rising again. With the MPG of V6 Accord dips below 20 miles per gallon, Honda is digging its own grave.

    Honda should be a performance car with size and fuel economy constrains: 1) At least 25 miles per gallon at city driving, V6 or I4 for Honda Accord. 2) Not that long, the backseats are for kids! Now, work on these, and make it perfect.

    Leave the fad of big, muscular and thirsty to the BIG THREE, or Toyota.

    Otherwise, it is perfect. The Accord SE V6 is smooth, quick, and quite. The V6 version feels better than the I4 I used to have. Not only the sporty looks, but also the sporty performance (don’t carry away here, it is a family car still), the Accord SE V6 gets 17 inch wheels and four wheel disk breaks, plus ABS, VSC, and all the air bags, enough for a family car.

    There are few minor issues that most of us can live with. The rear seats are not split seats, I wonder when Honda will do that. One of the interior plastic covers fell off for missing a fastener in my new Accord. Hello, quality control dude. Colors are very limited, only silver, blue, and black were available to me. Now, that’s need improvement, consider that Honda sells almost half million Honda Accord, even fifty colors are not too many.

    For the 2007 model, the SE is the right choice, V6 or I4. The Accord SE V6 is otherwise a perfect car for around $20K except the driver seat, gas mileage, and the size.

    :cry:
  • m1miatam1miata Posts: 4,556
    I have a V6, and it is new, averaging over 24MPG. Have not done a freeway only run, but I would imagine it will do around 29 MPG. Current miles on car = 1,400 +

    The seat is adjustable for height and tilt. Very comfortable. I have the SE V6.
    The width of the car is not too wide, so driving the narrow streets is not an issue. As for length, I have no problem with that so far.
    -Loren
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Ok jbl8, I have a few comments/suggestions about your post. 1.) I agree about the seats. I wish I could have the controls for my old 92 Accord seats back (it was easy and quick) the power seat is slower, and after my wife drives the car, I have to move it back before I can even get in. 2.) I also agree about the split rear seat. 3.) All the midsize cars are getting larger. If you want a car the same size as the older Accords, the Civic may be a better choice. 4.) You say Honda is like every other car maker, going for more power, instead of fuel mileage, but you bought the V6???? What's up with that? My 03 V6 gets about the same mileage in town, and better mileage on the highway than my old 4cyl. 140hp Accord did, so I'm not complaining about that (100 more horses, and better mileage).
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    If your like me and tire of seeing "fun to drive" AWD Ford fusion commercials on tv, I think honda needs AWD.

    BUT!!

    Honda has two available AWD systems. The tried and true VTM-4 and Sh-awd system. The cost of adding VTM-4 is probably less than Sh-awd. You'd be able to get traction to all 4 wheels when needed which is mainly the reason for AWD.

    Sh-awd is a little heavier and costly and saps the off the line performance of the Acura Rl but allows the Rl to corner better than a regular FWD car.

    If you had a choice, which would you pick for the next accord?

    Personally, I'd go with VTM-4 as it is cheaper ($1200 more on Cr-v and $1300 more on Element) and gets the job done well. It also comes with the ability to lock the 4 wheels for an "unstuck" mode. With it, you get the same accord with about an extra 150lbs and All weather security.

    -Cj
  • saleemsaleem Posts: 114
    AWD would be nice, but would pump up the price.

    Also, there is no way Acura will share its flagship car's SH-AWD, off a $50,000 car, with a Honda that's half the price. Doesn't make any sense.

    The the fusion RWD or AWD? I don't know.

    But the Accord is made to be a well-handling FWD car. Making it AWD would change the character/weight balance/everything of the car
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    AWD, as an option, would probably gain some buyers from up north, with traction needs. I live in the deeeeep south (snow or ice maybe once every 20 years) so the only way I would need AWD is if I decided to go mud-riding :D .
  • saleemsaleem Posts: 114
    I agree to an extent. I'd say AWD is def necessary if you want a rear-wheel biased car (G35x, 5**xi, 3**xi, etc), but also notice those are more expensive cars. Is it economical to do it on lower-priced FWDs? FWDs are pretty decent in the snow-- its RWD that are garbage.

    PS - dev costs to turn a solely FWD car to option-AWD would bump a high end AWD car into G35x territory
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    I want the most simple machine I can get. That means fwd. I don't need the addl complexity,weight,reduced mileage,etc. of AWD. Just my .02.
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    True...

    The FWD fusion has it as an option so I think honda should just put VTM-4 on other models.

    The accord -Passat, Fusion/milan, and subaru have it. An AWD beats Toyota and Nissan's New models to the point.

    Odyssey- AWD sienna is the only other AWD "mini" van with it now.

    Tsx - Is250, 3**xi, g35x, c300, a4 quattro, and even the Mkz/milan, volvo S40/60

    Tl - 5**xi, g35, (08) Cadillac Cts, E class, A6 quattro, gs350 and others

    I've heard Great reviews of the AWD pilot like the long term one that couldn't get stuck in snow even without needing to lock the wheels. Heck, VTM-4 may make it a sportier drive.

    Don't Throw away AWD yet as the AWD Audi RS4 beat the bmw M5 in a comparison test...

    -Cj
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    I agree with the weight thing, but the AWD Cr-v gets 28 highway so the accord shouldn't be much worse. Also AWD would be an option for the people in severe rain or after a night of snow. AWD for security.

    Honda could only make money as I'm sure people wo want an AWD car may not want the bland fusion, or the hit-or-miss reliability VW-passat for $35k. They just get suvs or just give in and get the fusion.

    -Cj ;)
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