Edmunds dealer partner, Bayway Leasing, is now offering transparent lease deals via these forums. Click here to see the latest vehicles!
Popular New Cars
Popular Used Sedans
Popular Used SUVs
Popular Used Pickup Trucks
Popular Used Hatchbacks
Popular Used Minivans
Popular Used Coupes
Popular Used Wagons
Comments
Anyone calling himself a mechanic, that can't do all the maintenance and repairs on a KLZE engine better stick to working on bicycles. Changing the timing belt and or water pump on a KLZE (2.5L) would require no more knowledge or effort than any other transverse V6 engine, including a Toyota. The spark plugs and wires are downright simple to replace by anyone that has any mechanical ability at all. The engine in my '01 P is far more accessible than my last two V6's, a '90 TBird and that trouble prone '95 Olds 88 I mentioned.
This has been suggested before, and everyone has their "needs" (not quoting you). The 2.5 is in no way wimpy, unless you have a "need" for excess power. It takes a tiny fraction of 170 HP to propel a 3400 pound car. The only "need" for more power than the 2.5 has is ego gratification. I have about 15000 miles on mine, and never have I "needed" more power under any condition. If I were inclined to run in stop light Gran-Prix races, maybe I could understand the "need" for 0 to 60 in less than 8.5 seconds in a family car. Under all but racing conditions, the MMP is a fine performer. I have had some "wimpy" cars, but this is not one of them. Perhaps, just as in the '70's horsepower war (musclecars), the perception of decent performance is being lost when compared to excess.
I suppose my own impressions of the Millenia engines comes from when I checked out one for a friend a few years ago. She just knew she wanted "something in the 30s" and was intimidated by the number of choices, so I went along for the test drives. We tried both the NA and the S cars, and It seemed to me like the 2.5 was kind of meager for a 6, it felt like the Accord 4cyl. She ended up with an '02 Acura TL.
My point is not that the MMP does not have less power than those cars. Rather that it is not wimpy in normal driving. It was stated above that it is slow off the line, and compared to those two it is. But compared to say a Viper, those two might be called wimps. It is a matter of perspective, and from the perspective of normal street use the MMP is a fine all around performer. Just not a hot rod so to speak. It is an outstanding highway cruiser, and that initial impression of a fine car at a super bargain basement price has endured for almost 15000 miles. I would make the same choice today if I was choosing among the cars I tested in September of 2001. Absolutely no regrets.
Scott
a few seconds only. Just had an oil change done on it! Maybe it was overfilled? i don't know? Maybe we're dealing with something more serious?
Apart from that this car is a beauty to look at and to drive.
All suggestions are welcome.
Thanks.
Quote mazdafreak: "However i'm concerned about the fact that when i start it in the morning a little bit of white/blue smoke puffs out of the exhaust for a few seconds only."
Probable answer:
Quote: "#3039 tomekk Apr 28, 2004 (4:12 pm)
BTW, supercharger leaks tend to be internal anyway."
---------------------------------------------
From what I have over the years, that is the most likely cause of your white/blue smoke. It isn't necessarily a major problem, but if it becomes one, it is very expensive. Maybe some "S" owners will jump in here with more information.
I have read about the O2 sensors continously expiring and causing the engine light to come on. I think that if the car seems to ride smooth and the engine sounds good with minimal leaks--go for it. I love mine.
So, again, puff at start-up is normal for lysholm superchargers and nothing to worry about.
How much did you pay for it, if you don't mind telling us?
Tomek ('01 S with 40K miles)
SO IF I CONVERT CDN$ INTO U$ I WOULD HAVE PAID 9500.00$
STILL GUARANTEED 1 YEAR ON POWERTRAIN.
Thanking you in advnace
The dealer I bought from, as well as other solicitors have sent me many letters trying to convince me that I "must" do this or that. But at least in my case these have been nothing but sales pitches.
Go to http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayMyMazdaHome.action and answer a few questions to register. This is the official Mazda site and should give you any information you need.
I read the manual about using 5W-30 based on NJ temperatures the next few months. I am assuming Honda service can figure out what oil filter the Miller engine needs. But I would like to hear from you about the brand of oil, whether I should use synthetic oil, and if 5w-30 is the right choice. The Honda service guy said he has "Honda oil", which apparently is 5W-20. But he said he can get 5W-30 if thats what it takes.
Or do I bag the Honda dealer and go to Jiffy-Lube.
I've done it in the past on other with great
results of longevity. What do you guys think about it?
I think the 01-02 styling changes greatly enhanced the car. The interior color schemes, the electroluminescent dash, the in-dash 6 cd player, the cycling on and off of the heated seats, the center console and cupholders, the headlight and hood designs, the taillamps, the suspension and handling changes...all of that I think are great improvements. I don't remember my 97 driving and handling to the high degree and fun factor as my 01, but that could be selective memory.
Either way, though, I think the Millenia is the best car for the price in its class, and even better than cars above its class. I didn't really give much thought to the 01-02 changes until I actually saw and drove the 01. The decision for the 01-02 was made at that moment.
Most of the changes are cosmetic and fairly small. Though the new gauges mimic Lexus' electro-luminescent style and look very nice. The steering wheel got stereo controls, and the radio head unit was changed (for the third time)with a larger volume knob and the return of a tuning knob, that sort of looks like the original 95-96 head unit (which I always thought was better than the 97-00 head unit. Thats really about it. The Millenia was a strong competitor in '95 when it was introduced, but by '01, it had become outdated. The power figures didnt change, and Infinti, Acura, and Lexus surpassed the Millenia S' 210hp and 210lb\ft of torque. The S is also not that quick, Edmunds '01 test put it at around 8 seconds 0-60, which is just average. I would suggest cross shoping an Acura TL, which has more features, is sportier, and has more power. (The Type-S has A LOT more power). Infinti's I30\I35 is less sporty than the Acura, and is probably a closer match to the Millenia (and shares its less than stellar residual value) but also has more power, especially with the 3.5L engine for '02, and is generally roomier.
I will give you that I wish the MMS had memory seats, autodimming mirror, auto-on headlights, an indicator light for the fog lights, and maybe even more horsepower. But I am amazed at the prices for used I30's and TL's. I do like the Millenia's profile, the way it looks overall, and that they are not everywhere on the road.
Just got back from the nearby dealership and unfortunately they had bad news for me.
The Supercharger has to be replaced (re: Blue/White smoke coming out of the exhaust when cold) of course, the supercharger isn't under warranty anymore 3years/40k miles.This is gonna cost around 2500.00$.
I'm really pissed off...Unbeleivable.
Oh well! still love the car. just as my wife:)
I am thinking about purchasing a 95 Millenia with 127000 miles on it. The seller says that it is a very reliable car and that the car is in good condition.
Just wanted to see what anyone thinks and any advice or suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks!
Read the last page or so for why I ask.
That was not the first time that I heard about that. I was told that the S engine could get fairly expensive if something went wrong with it.
Thanks!
If it it minor I would leave the engine alone except to seal up external leaks, which new valve cover or timing belt cover gaskets might solve.
All high milage engines are going to have minor leaks that aren't important to repair unless you can't stand looking at the oil on the engine or floor. Fouled plugs are another situation and can cause the car to run poorly.
your dealer could be taking you for a ride. I think supercharger replacement is $5K to 8K from what I've heard before - go get second opinion!!! OTH maybe this is why your car was sold in the first place...
Is the engine using significant amount of oil? Can you pass emissions inspection? Really, do some homework before you let them do it.
Trust but verify!
Actually the repair estimation will run to approx. cdn$ 6k.
The engine isn't using a great amount of oil. Being checked every 2nd.
day.The catalytic converter was just replaced. The car has been inspected by a governemental inspection center. I'm sure they checked for emissions.
You're right i will get a second opinion.
On the other hand i was able to purchase an extended warranty for 36m months / 60k km. In any case i won't be paying for any of the repairs.
Thanks!
The NY\NJ area is not a particularly good place to buy used cars, as far as prices are concerned. A trip down to PA could save you $2,000.
I haven't checked KBB, but my guess is that your car is not worth more than $4000, and I would bet it would cost more than that to replace the engine.
Good luck, but unless that particular car is dear to you, I think you are taking the wrong path by replacing the engine.
DaSkorpion...!!!