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The first thing to check is the Accelerator Switch. On a 1993 it should be a microswitch mounted on the arm connected to the gas pedal under the dash. If you look under the dash at the gas pedal arm you should see the switch mounted so that it is actuated when the pedal is at rest. If this switch is defective, the transmission computer will think you are slowing, but not stopping, and the AT will shift into 1st instead of staying in 2nd and you get a clunk. A continuity check with an ohmmeter will verify if the switch is defective or not. If the switch is okay, the next thing is to check the TPS. They can go bad on a high mileage car. Checking takes a digital voltmeter following a procedure found in the factory shop manual.
Mr. Vivona
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If you just replace the bulbs, you must be sure that the current draw and heat dissipation of the new lamps do not exceed the original ones. The easiest way is to make sure the actual wattage rating is the same as the original bulbs. Here's a web site that offers HID-look bulbs: http://www.eurolights.com/
Actual HID systems draw less current but require you to buy the ballast and related wiring. Here is a web site that has the 9006 for $599: http://www.hids4less.com/order.html
I can't attest as to the quality of the products of either source, and there are surely many others out there. A bit of searching with a good search engine like http://www.metacrawler.com/ will find you a lot of HID sellers.
A dirty contact within a sensor (door, trunk, etc.) will fool the alarm into thinking that sensor has been activated. Same goes for the wiring and connectors for the sensors.
Automotive computers can fail if the internal capacitors become defective. An electronics technician may be able to replace the capacitors if the computer can be opened for servicing (I haven't checked this). Be sure he replaces the capacitors with exact replacements. Here is an article on capacitor replacement for engine computers http://www.tmo.com/howto/ecu1g/caps.htm Perhaps the same can be done for the alarm computer? While inside the unit, the tech can check for a cold solder joint. That can also cause intermittent problems.
To check out the electrical system, rig up an alalog voltmeter to plug into the cigarette lighter and put it where you can monitor it. You are looking for sudden changes in voltage that may indicate a wiring problem. You can get an analog voltmeter from Radio Shack for about $10.
A shop that specializes in alarms that has an electronic tech on staff may be able to help you find the bad part. Of course, they may also just try to sell you one of their alarms.
Mr. Vivona
please help.
When you had your wheels balanced on the GSP9700, it is important that the tech checked for wheel and rim runout. You can balance a wheel with excessive runout, but when it is on the ground the runout will cause vibration. Also, did the tech balance the wheel down to below 10 pounds of road force variation? Cars with a lot of unsprung weight can be balanced to 15-20 pounds of road force variation and be okay, but a car with low unsprung weight needs to be balanced down to 10 pounds or below. Just because the tech used a GSP9700 doesn't mean he knew what he was doing. I recommend your read all the technical stuff at http://www.gsp9700.com/ to educate yourself on the details so you can return to the tire shop and talk intelligently with them. You should always have the tire tech write the final balancing number (in pounds of road force variation) on the inside sidewall for your reference.
If careful rebalancing doesn't help, try having each wheel spun on the car with a spin balancer to see if there is one that vibrates. Then you can look further for a bent axle or out of balance driveline part. If you get a vibrating wheel through spin balancing, swap it with another wheel to see if the vibration follows the wheel or axle. If it follows the wheel, then you are back to tire balancing. Keep in mind that a wheel balanced on a GSP9700 may vibrate when spun off the ground on a regular balancer or with a spin balancer because the GSP9700 has balanced the wheel taking into account variations in sidewall stiffness around the circumference of the tire and that only shows up when there is weight on the tire.
To rule out transmission or engine vibration, get to the point of vibration and carefully slip the transmission into neutral for a few seconds and see if the vibration stops. If it stops, you may be dealing with an engine or transmission imbalance. If you use other than Mitsubishi ATF in the transmission (assuming you have an auto trans) it can lead to tourque converter lockup vibration. Also, a misfiring engine can feel like an unbalanced wheel at high speeds.
And, in all cases make sure your wheels are removed and replaced ONLY using hand tools and a hand torque wrench for tightening to the correct wheel lug torque (65-80 ft lbs).
I hope this helps. Let me know what you find.
Mr. Vivona
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Since the vibration didn't go away with a change of wheels and tires, and force balancing didn't help, you are probably looking at a driveline problem. You need to isolate where the vibration is coming from. One way is to try having each wheel spun separately on the car. That can be tricky, because if you just jack a front wheel up off the ground it will drop fully causing an unusual angle to the CV joints and they will vibrate even when okay. You have to jack up the car by the lower control arm so the axle angle is normal. With one front wheel properly jacked up and the other one on the ground, you can use the engine to run the car up to speed. A speedometer reading of 40 will equate to 80 for the wheel in the air. But 70-80 MPH is a dangerous speed to be running a tire, so you might want to have a shop do this that is experienced in checking out driveline imbalances. The rear wheels have to be spun with an on-the-car balancing machine.
Another way of isolating where the vibration is coming from is by using an electronic mechanic's stethoscope. There are ones that have four separate microphones that you can clamp on suspension parts. Clamp one on each lower suspension arm and run the microphone cords carefully so they won't get caught up in any moving part. You listen through headphones as you drive. Perhaps the vibration can be heard and then you will know which wheel the vibration is coming from.
You can have the hubs, CV joints and axles checked with a dial indicator micrometer for runout. I don't know the specification, but I would assume it should be less than .010
If there is a shop that has a dynomometer you can have the wheels run up to speed while someone feels each area of the car for vibration.
Finally, test drive another Galant to be sure the vibration you feel is unique to your Galant and not just the normal feel of going 80MPH.
Finding the cause of vibration can be difficult and is beyond the scope of many mechanics. If you can find someone that specializes in it, you will be way ahead of the game of finding the cause.
Mr. Vivona
My question is whether or not you all think that this is the problem, and if any of you have ever encountered it. The part costs about 150 dollars on carparts.com. Is this something that's easy to install? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
http://www.geocities.com/diamanteowner/article3.htm
If that doesn't work, the idle speed control motor should be checked. If it is found bad, then it should be replaced. You can get a Chiltons service manual from http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0801993156/o/qid=986999863/sr=8-2/ref=aps_sr_b_1_2/107-9158389-3359758 that may help you with the testing and replacement. If you are handy and want a detailed repair manual, get a quote from http://www.magauto.com/mitsubishi.htm for the Mitsubishi factory service manual for your 1994 Diamante. It will cost over $100, but it contains exact step-by-step repair instructions for everything.
A low idle can be caused by other things, such as a vacuum leak, so testing before replacing parts is the only way to keep from just throwing money into it until you happen to hit the cause of the problem.
Mr. Vivona
nose treatement.
http://www.autoshowny.com/newproducts1.cfm?manufac=Mitsubishi
You can get some value, but a lot less detailed information, from the Chiltons book at http://bn.com/ Search for ISBN 0801993156 It will cost less than $20.
Mr. Vivona
I have a '01 galant esV6.
symptoms:
-regardless of temperature (outside and engine), the car rough idles when no load is imposed on it ie when in P or N and no AC
-with no load, when car is revved above 3000 rpms it smooths out when in P or N
-when it is in gear symptoms go away.
-when AC is engaged symptoms go away.
Any suggestions/solutions?
Thank you for your time and advice, Mr. Vivona. Also thanks for the diamante owners for their patience.
The silver 2002, despite the "Carl Malden" nose was extremely attractive.. They cleaned up the back a bit as well--I prefer it to the current edition. No substantive interior changes that I could see. FYI for those interested...
Your symptoms point to several possibilities:
1. Though your car is too new to have a dirty throttle body, the symptoms are similar to that caused by a dirty throttle body. Check out: http://www.geocities.com/diamanteowner/article3.htm
2. You could have a vacuum leak. Vacuum is highest at idle. Look around for a cracked fitting or pulled off vacuum hose. Connect a vacuum gauge and set it where you can watch it as you drive. See if the rough idle starts at a particular vacuum level.
3. The EGR valve or PCV valve could be defective. At idle the higher vacuum should close the EGR and PCV valves, but if it doesn't, the idle will be rough. But this doesn't easily explain why putting it in gear smoothes out the idle.
4. You could have a bad or mis-adjusted Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) or Idle Speed Control (ISC). These can be checked with a multimeter or scan tool by a competent technician.
The trickiest part of you problem is the fact that putting it in gear or engaging the AC smoothes out the idle. This may point to a defective sensor that is giving the engine computer fits. Have the dealer use a scan tool to check for error codes. That may start you in the right direction.
Keep me updated on progress.
Mr. Vivona
Once again, thankyou for you advice.
It is not good to adjust the idle without first carefully ruling out a cause of low idle. This is especially true if the idle was once okay and now it isn't. The only reason the idle speed can change over time is due to changes in things that affect the idle. Was your Galant idling fine at first, then developed the rough idle, or did it always do that? My concern is that they adjusted the idle without finding the cause of a low idle.
What speed was your idle before the problem, during the problem and now that they have adjusted it?
Tell me more about what you are calling the Engine Performance Base Idle diagnosis test. That term can mean several things. Who is offering to do this and what exactly does it consist of?
And, you didn't say if the things they did fixed your problem. Did it?
Mr. Vivona
Mr. Vivona
I'm also taking this opportunity to "more generalize" some topic titles to broaden their scope. For example, when the trim level, powerplant or transmission/transaxle option isn't pertinent to the comparison, I'm removing it for the purposes of making the topic applicable to the situations in which more buyers find themselves.
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If you find the hiss to be excessive, you will need to locate the source. One way to do this is to cup your hands behind your ears to focus your hearing into a more directional beam. By moving your head around the engine bay and listening for the loudest hiss, you may be able to find the general source area. Then, hold a piece of rubber hose to your ear and move the open end around to more accurately locate the source of the noise. Be real careful that you do not put the hose or your hands near anything moving or that a piece of your clothing doesn't get pulled into the drive belts. If you locate the exact source of the hissing sound, you'll have to figure out why it is hissing. It could be a pulled off hose, a broken fitting, a ruptured diaphram or a loose connection.
Let me know what you find.
Mr. Vivona
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Interesting, though, is a shot in the video. Right after the place where they show the 2002 Diamante from the rear there is a shot with a different hood. In that shot, the center piece goes up from the bumper, not down from the hood, and it looks better. Perhaps that shot is a 2002 Galant?
Mr. Vivona
Hope they consider "recontenting" the D with some of the little things I've heard have been eliminated - illuminated door switches being one. My '93 is still going strong, with 122K on it as of this morning, and some of those little touches (also the satin "wood" instead of seriously plastic-y high gloss) make it the standard I judge other makes against. Haven't yet sat in one I like nearly as well, unfortunately including the current D.
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Could you give me some advice about how to check transmission fluid? How to determine whether I need to change it or not? If I have to change the fluid, is it difficult to change the fluid and filter kit?
Thanks!
UCSC
Make sure you are on level ground. To check the ATF, warm up the engine, run the gear selector through the gears and end up in neutral. Put on the parking brake. With the engine hot idling, pull out the transmission dipstick, wipe off the fluid, and re-insert it fully. Then pull it out and check the level of fluid showing on the dipstick. Unless you have a leak, the ATF will remain at the proper level from change to change. If it is low, add a little at a time through the same tube that the dipstick mounts in, using a long funnel specially made for ATF filling. Never overfill beyond the full mark.
I would follow the owner's manual recommendation as to change frequency. When it is time to change the fluid, drain it and remove the spin-on filter mounted on top of the transaxle case. It looks a lot like an oil filter. Install a new filter by first wetting the filter o-ring with ATF and then tightening it according to the directions printed on the filter (usually 3/4 turn after it first contacts the mounting surface).
Only use Mitsubishi ATF as identified in your owner's manual. Do not use other fluids because the Mitsubishi stuff is specially formulated for your transmission. I recommend using a Mitsubishi filter, too. ATF and the AT filter is not the place to economize with cheap stuff, so get the genuine stuff from your dealer.
Do you think a dealer will go for this offer?
if so.. wow., i could be driving a diamante LS with a payment just above $400.. now that wouldn't be bad.
Many thanks for advice.
http://www.autospeed.com/C_articles/A_0721/P_1/article.html
Good luck - keep us posted on what you pursue and what happens.
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Vivona et al keep up the good work.