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My question is:
1) When they do a brake job do they always cut the rotors. I am told this adds $12 to the price of the brake job.
2) Do Camry's typically need new rototr on their 1st brake job irregardless of how low you let the pads get?
I want to get the job done but was a little suspicious of remarks I heard about Camry's and Toyotas needing new rotors and dealers replacing them even when not warranted.
Educate me!
Hope this helps.
Ken
I recently purchased a new 2005 Toyota Camry LE four cylinder. It has about 600 miles on it. I had a 99 Camry which got immediately about 28 miles per IMPERIAL gallon in city and about 38 miles or more on highway. NO BREAK IN PERIOD on the 99 camry was necessary to get this high fuel economy. I based my calculations in both cases on the trip odometer and IMPERIAL gallons (Canada)
The new Camry gets about 20 miles per gallon with air conditioning on in city.
They tell me the new Camry has 7 horsepower more and an Alexis five
speed automatic transmission. There is also an aluminum block engine now.
The 2005 Camry pamphlet shows fuel consumption 28/44 which bears no resemblance to my mileage.
Could all these so called improvements cause this bad fuel economy?
In addition I noticed the suspension is not smooth over minor bumps and car bounces around.
The current car was built in USA and the 1999 one came from Japan.
Roger
My 2004 Camry LE with the 4-cylinder, 4-speed auto (that I just gave to my son) got stellar fuel economy: about 23 mpg in the city and 35-38 mpg (US) on long trips.
So far, my replacement 2005 Camry XLE with the 4-cylinder, 5-speed auto isn't doing as well: as low as 21 mpg in the city and only 31 mpg on long trips, with 4200 miles on the odometer so far. The cars don't differ much in weight. We'll see what happens over time.
Both the 2004 and 2005 models rode/ride quite smoothly.
If they do not 'hear' this one or fix it, I am having a Toyota rep come in.
If anyone has had this issue and has a DIY fix, please post as I would like to eliminate the problem on my own as opposed to multiple trips back to the dealer, dealer rep, Toyota etc. I bought the brand to avoid this nonsense!.
Ken
And the above post is correct- the 2.4L is a completely different engine than your 1999's, and the difference in power should be apparent. The 97-01 were quite slow, in my experience, and bordered on underpowered.
~alpha
Honestly, I'd say the 95 was actually quicker, or at least, felt quicker than the 97s and 00s, which had additional emmissions equipment and weight over the Gen Three models.
Despite still not being as quick as a current generation Accord 4, the 05 Camry 4 cylinder is plenty strong, especially given its efficiency profile. (The current hits 60 1-2 seconds quicker than the Gen Four Camrys).
~alpha
Doug
Maybe it's time for you to give up on your Camry and get something more reliable like a Chevy!
I won't even pass comment on the reliable Chevy quote.
However, since this is one of the smoothest riding cars on the planet, be sure to check your tire pressures. I'm betting they are over-inflated, as they all are for shipping. Dealers often don't set them correctly before delivering the car. Check and let us know what you find.
Funny, we are thinking of getting a Sienna. The shuttle car this time was a Sienna. Very nice riding and quite EXCEPT for the exact same cracles and pops....I guess it is an inheret design flaw in Toyotas.
Keep in mind that the "new" Corolla was released as an '03 model in the first quarter of 2002 - we bought one in March of '02.
There are no "rules" any more about this kind of thing - when the car is ready they put it on the road. They want to have the Camry hybrid ready for release in the new body at the same time the rest of the line gets the redesign, incidentally.
Ken
In a lower severity frontal crash, it is possible for the seat belt pretensioners to activate without the airbags deploying. The Toyota owner's manual explains this in detail.
LE 2.4L 4cyl:.....2006.....................2005.....................change
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Power (hp):.......154 @ 5700 rpm.....160 @ 5700 rpm.....-3.8 %
Torque (ft-lbs):...160 @ 4000 rpm.....163 @ 4000 rpm.....-1.8 %
LE 3.0L 6cyl:.....2006.....................2005.....................change
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Power (hp):.......190 @ 5800 rpm.....210 @ 5800 rpm.....-9.5 %
Torque (ft-lbs):...197 @ 4400 rpm.....220 @ 4400 rpm...-10.4 %
SE 3.3L 6cyl:....2006.....................2005.....................change
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Power (hp):.......210 @ 5600 rpm.....225 @ 5600 rpm.....-6.7 %
Torque(ft-lbs):....220 @ 3600 rpm.....240 @ 3600 rpm.....-8.3 %
But the gas mileage is the same in every case. And it doesn't seem to be emissions - 4cyl eBrochure says in some areas cars with PZEV ratings will be even poopier. What's the deal? Anybody know?
techstaff
New SAE standards for measuring hp and torque. Most ratings will go down unless the manufacturer tweaks the engine to keep it the same.
By the way, are there any other changes for the Camry that you saw for 2006? I see the price has gone up $250.00.
Toyota is very sensitive about increasing their market share too fast at the expense of GM & Ford. They don't want some Michigan legislators to start talking protectionism to stem the loss of (UAW) jobs. So they raise prices slightly while the domestics are cutting them furiously (via rebates, etc.) so no one can claim they are expanding their share by price cutting.
There will be NO changes for the 2006 Camry (other than price) compared to the '05, and the redesigned 2007 model is due around February 2006.
techstaff
Toyota looks like the worst offendor on the list. Some manufacturers actually are very conservative and underreport the HP.
Toyota, Honda inflated claims of engine muscle; new tests force automakers to come clean with buyers
I think that honor goes to Toyota,.
It is they who have been advertising 210 HP Camrys that only get 190 HP. The only reason Toyota changed is because of a new California law that requires manufacturers selling in California to use strict SAE standard, instead of inflating their numbers like they have been doing in the past.
I think this is just another case of Detroit (in this case via the newspaper) bashing the company that's cleaning the domestic industry's clocks. It's got nothing to do with engine hp ratings.