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mid-size sedans/sport sedans
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Vehicle(s) I currently own
2012 Kia Optima EX
  • Re: Midsize Sedans 2.0

    I liked the third gen. too. The '89 had the pop-up headlights, right? Here is the backfires letter.

    The history behind being shocked is because when most people my age think of an Accord, it is that one...or the third gen which is very close to the fourth. The 5th gen was the "Jelly bean" look, when the industry started making everything round, and the hot color was green industry wide.

  • 2011-2014 Kia Optima general discussion forum.

    I own a 2012 Kia Optima EX. I was introduced to the car while helping a relative purchase a car at the end of 2010. I ended up test driving one and was impressed with the quality materials, ride, specifications, looks, and finally the price. It didn't take long before I was driving one home. The picture below is my 2012 Optima EX base. It stickered at $24,260 . I paid 21,880 + tax tags.

    After driving it for two years and 24,000 miles, I can tell you anything you want to know about the car. I have driven the new Mazda 6, inspected the new Fusion and driven the new Accord. There is very little difference between them in the real world. All mainstream midsize sedans offer high quality, technology rich content, and genuine value that was unheard of even 5 years ago.

    I am attaching a picture of my car, and welcome any queries. Happy New Year!

  • Re: Midsize Sedans 2.0

    @nyccarguy said: cski

    I watched the introduction of the new 200 on Chrysler's Website. They really seem to have put "all hands on deck" for the 200. I hope they are incredibly successful. High quality interior materials, a sport edition, available V6, 9 speed automatic, available fully disconnecting AWD system, sharp styling... How did the exterior look in person?

    It looked great. It caught my attention from across the room. Very swoopy with the front end reminding me of the Lincoln MK-Z. The back end was really modern looking with a substantial built in spoiler, lighted reflector area above the integrated dual exhaust, and it just flowed really well. Very sporty, and the design made it look like a car costing thousands more. I think it will be a hit if Chrysler gets the driving dynamics and the interior assembly quality up to par with the rest of the field. I also noticed the giant infotainment screen, which is probably the same unit in many other current Chrysler platforms. Will America buy this one in droves? Or stay away like the Dart? Only time (and good reviews) will tell.

    I also noticed the new Chevy SS. If you are looking for an understated hot-rod sport sedan this car is for you. It is the same size as a mid size sedan, looking very similar to the Malibu (almost to a fault). Interior and exterior assembly quality was excellent, and when they fired one up downstairs it attracted men like a moth to a flame. At $45k, it seems to be a great buy for a car reaching 60 in 4.6 seconds.

    The new Mustang was really pretty too. They had a red EcoBoost 2.3 T on display, and while the design is evolutionary rather than revolutionary, Ford cut a lot of weight and finally added an IRS and very much improved interior materials, and MFT is now offered in a Mustang the first time. I think I would enjoy the 2.3 EB with 305 HP. It should get good FE and has plenty of power. Fords is gonna sell at ton of them, with big hopes for sales overseas.

    Again though, I found the most attractive sedan to be the Impala 3.6 LTZ. It just "did it" for me. Why? Because I tend to like cars that I can actually afford, fit my whole family in comfort, and that is cost effective to maintain.

  • Re: Midsize Sedans 2.0

    Here is the 2014 EX interior with the base Infotainment. $24,400 sticker. I know of no other car in this class, at this price that offers so much in a quality interior. SO the steering is rubbery and the handling falls short of sporty, but they get a lot right at the is price point...heck at any price point south of $30,000.

  • Re: Midsize Sedans 2.0

    @benjaminh said:

    My predictions for 2014: Fusion will pass Altima and become the #3 selling midsize car. Accord will get close to the Camry but won't quite pass it, since Honda won't play the "0%+ 2000 rebate" game. The Mazda6, I think, might pass the Dodge Avenger, but that's not saying much.

    Maybe Honda is the only one selling close to capacity at this point. I think they can make about 33,000 Accords a month for the US market, and that's almost what they sold. Toyota can make up to 40,000 Camry's a month, and so they are already way under what they can do. I believe Ford and Nissan have about the same capacity as Honda, and so they are selling about 8000 fewer midsize cars a month than they are able to make....

    Cool!And you have Predictions too!

    I think that everything you said is dead on. It is a buyers market, unless you want the Accord. For quite a long time I have felt what most of us know, that the Accord is the most desirable mid-size on the market, so folks are not going to have salespeople begging at their feet at the local Honda store.

    Also, The day of the Camry and it's supernatural build quality have passed. It is just another mid size sedan, and only the SE V 6 stands out as one I would gladly have in my driveway. Unfortunately, I would have the Honda and it's buttery smooth 3.5 instead, and so would many others.

    My Optima has slipped below 10,000 units a month. There are a few new adverts for the Optima, with one about a father rushing home in his SX-L Optima to deliver a goldfish home before his young daughter realizes hers has passed; and replaced with an impostor. I think the restyle looks great in the front, but the "diffuser" in the back is a bit much, and does not at all do anything for under-car airflow like it does on real racing cars. A bit much is being kind. Garish is more like it.