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@stever said: boaz47, the edit window is now four hours.
When I get a new car I want the tech. MPG is important but I want all the airbags, lane control safety kind of stuff, backup cams, MP3/USB slots, yada, yada.
LOL ! CNBC must have interviewed you ? :p
@stever said: There's at least three very active solar outfits in Las Cruces that I noticed last week. But there's a paucity of homes that have panels or solar hot water. Coming home across Kansas, I saw around 30 windmill blades being hauled north on a train. A little while later I had to deal with two wide (and way long) loads on one of our backroads hauling a couple of blades south. You'd think they'd get that coordinated, lol.
All the windmill blades were being hauled by diesel power. B)
I was on the road when they were jockeying a HUGE plane up interstate 5 . I can see me now, no really there was an aircraft right in the middle of the highway !!! OK a good candidate for the NUT house.
I am ok with the OP waiting.
Municipalities and states acknowledge that most (PVF) excess pollution is caused by app 5% (outliers) of the passenger vehicle fleet . In fact, ANYONE can report what they see/perceive as a "gross polluter" in ANY number of ways !
So if 95% of the passenger vehicle fleet are gassers, that leaves less than 5% being diesels of which 50% of these are diesel (PVF) trucks." FAR more of the population of "gross polluters" are indeed GASSERS than diesels AND gasser gross polluters emit far more than diesel gross polluters.
So using 100 vehicles, the numbers/ratio breakdown to 95 gassers/gasser hybrids vs 5/2=2.5 diesels, x 5 % that would be 4.75 gassers and (.25/2)= .125 diesels, gasser gross polluters are app 38 TIMES greater.
Anybody (you/op) can all run the numbers on say CA with 24 M registered passenger vehicles. For 2011 NHSTA lists app 257.5 M registered vehicles so CA has roughly 9.3% of the US PVF.
But I swag the issue/s is/are more about attitudes than about realities.
We have also been over the ppm sulfur content of gassers (30 to 90 ppm) vs diesel (15 ppm, but nominally delivered @ 5 to 10 ppm) So pollution of gassers are structurally 2 times (to 18 TIMES) GREATER.
So for example, keep in mind there is little to no enforcement with motorcycle gross polluters which are more like 100% gassers !!! I am guessing defacto that the op or even you has/have never been near a motorcycle that "forgot to put on" a muffler and catalytic converter, or perhaps they have fallen off? " IF so, you two should get out more. ;) Oh and watch out for all those dropped motorcycle mufflers and catalytic converters !! ;) My own experience is not a trip goes by where I am not passed by at LEAST one motorcycle.
@Michaell said: Interesting article in the latest C&D about the VW GTD and why it's not coming to the states. Turns out the suspension differences between the regular Golf and the GTI (which is the foundation for the GTD) doesn't allow for the AdBlue tank to be added.
Bleh! I really liked the idea of the GTD. @Michaell said: Interesting article in the latest C&D about the VW GTD and why it's not coming to the states. Turns out the suspension differences between the regular Golf and the GTI (which is the foundation for the GTD) doesn't allow for the AdBlue tank to be added.
Bleh! I really liked the idea of the GTD.
It might be a plausible back story, should VW decide not to bring the GTD into US markets for whatever REAL reasons or back stories). Let's see, 33 years (1982) of making the GTI/GTD and GERMAN engineering STILL can't figure how to put in the equivalent of a wind shield washer fluid container? Where's Mulder ? :D
@nyccarguy said: Diesel vs. Diesel
So I took my Dad's 2011 (Gasser, could use a Diesel) Tahoe to the dealer to get 2 new keys and a new remote made. While waiting, I was checking out the Cruz LT (Gasser) sitting in the showroom. It definitely seemed well screwed together. Although I question Chevrolet's extensive use of padded cloth on the dashboard. Still, for the $22K (wonder what the bottom line number on that would be) sticker it was handsome (Red) seemed to have some nice features (1.4 L Turbo Motor). I decided to roam the lot in search of a Cruz Diesel. They had what appeared to be a loaded Cruz Diesel in black (too high maintenance) with black leather interior (nice leather, very well bolstered, comfortable seats) and lots of features (back up cam, cross path detectiorn, rear parking sensors, Navigation I think) with an MSRP of over $27K. Now the issue isn't "look at how much more gas I could buy with the gasser LT vs. the diesel." I've read that the Cruz Diesel uses sound deadening material and suspension parts from it's Buick platform mate. The question is, for the most likely a very similar selling price, do you go for the Cruz Diesel, The Jetta TDI, or the Passat TDI?
Like you, I would say the VW Passat TDI is THE no brainer ! Evidently so does Edmunds.com in their Long Term tests ! (prior post reference link) SteveDebi also voted with the pocket book. IF I were getting a new/first time diesel today, VW Passat would be the choice.
Having said that, the 09 Jetta TDI has been the figurative and literal trooper. (warts have been covered) . It also becoming apparent, the tires will not last 113,400 miles. ;)