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  • Re: Buying and Selling Cars: Post Your Experiences

    NHTSA has a released a statement on vehicle automation and has released the following levels:

    No-Automation (Level 0): The driver is in complete and sole control of the primary vehicle controls – brake, steering, throttle, and motive power – at all times.


    AFAIK, NHTSA has not approved anything beyond Level 2 except in controlled testing environments.


    What's the point of having a self driving car if I still have to watch what is going on? I won't be able to watch a movie or have a nap if I use auto-pilot. It sounds like it would be boring anyway...rather drive myself ;)

    Of course you would be able to watch a movie or sleep - it's a SELF DRIVING car....

    There are a lot of benefits to self driving cars:

    imagine a highway where all the cars are running in unison in a controlled environment that maximizes capacity and reduces time in transit and fuel consumption

    imagine being dropped off at work in NYC and your car self driving itself to Long Island to park while you are at work

    imagine climbing into your car in Toronto at 8 PM, crossing into the US and waking up in Roanoke, VA 8 hours later

    Now, this isn't what I would like to see but it's coming. But it's going to take a long time as the new technology is implemented.
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  • Re: United Automobile Workers of America (UAW)

    Regarding "how could the auto industry be doing any better than they are today?" I'd say they could have been doing this good MUCH sooner had we gone without the bailouts.

    But as others have said, we'll never really know, though most sources point to a 15-20 billion dollar loss on the experiment, not 2 billion.


    I was under the impression (and I may be quite wrong on this) that taxpayers gave GM around $50 billion, of which $40 billion was a gift and $10 billion was a "loan"...so, when GM said they paid back their "loan" in full, they were using the words literally...most folks thought that meant they paid back $50 billion, but they only paid the $10 billion, since the rest was a gift (bribe) to the UAW...

    It would be nice if I only had to pay back 20% of my mortgage, and then say I paid it all back...
    $50 billion in taxpayer dollars was used to bailout GM. GM repaid $23.9 billion and the Treasury received $16 billion when it sold it's shares. $10 billion was lost in the stock sale.

    Chrysler repaid $9.2 billion. Fiat already owned 35% of the company and they took the 15% owned by the government with the Treasury absorbing a $1.3 billion loss. Fiat had to commit to building an engine plant in the US as well.

    According to the Center for Automotive Research, the bailout saved 1.2 million jobs and $34.9 billion in tax revenue.
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  • Re: United Automobile Workers of America (UAW)

    Hadn't seen that about the Passat. But I gave up on trying to figure out VW years ago. It was a bit of an eye-opener when they Americanized it while decontenting it and it sold like hotcakes. VW fans weren't fooled though I guess.
    The problem with the Passat is that VW hasn't really updated since it's introduction in 2012. It's the 4th year of production with barely any real changes to styling, options, et al. The biggest issue is it's staid styling. Since introduction, it's styling has been trumped by the Fusion, Accord, Camry, et al. The styling is inoffensive but the market isn't looking for that. Even VW has acknowledged that.

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