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  • Re: Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

    Tire Update

    I have a couple thousand miles on my Continental DWS 06 UHP A/S tires.

    While very good from mile one and better after mile 150, now at a couple grand miles on the road, I can offer this:

    These tires are really UHP tires, they do not, from my perspective here in SW Ohio, need to apologize or explain why they are a compromise shoe. I can think of no attribute of this tire that makes me long for a MAX Perf (summer only) tire instead. I do not track my car. I do not take my car off normal highways, roads and streets. I generally enjoy taking corners and curves as aggressively as possible (given traffic and other safety considerations, of course). When conditions and traffic (and the long arm of the law) permits, I have been known to exceed 100MPH (usually on Interstates where traffic is thin and widely spaced).

    I like a tire to be quiet. I do not want ANY tread noise. Not gonna tolerate it.

    The handling, braking, "quietness", comfort and anything you can think of that describes performance of these tires is (are) exemplary. While not cheap, the tires will not require you to take out a second mortgage, and they should last some 40,000+ miles and still remind you they are (mostly) still UHP tires.

    Unless you have no need for cold weather or "light-snow" traction, these tires should be given a good look-see and test drive (if possible). I don't want to make this too dramatic, but I cannot think of any tire that I have ever had that exceeds the performance of the DWS 06 Continental Extremes.

    I sourced these from Tire Rack; and after they were mounted and road force balanced my S4 was given a 4-wheel alignment.

  • Re: Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

    2007 BMW 335i Coupe 100,574 miles: asking $13,995 (market value = $14,031 according to

    w/58,000 miles on the OD: asking $19,995 (market value = $17,877 according to

    Let's say the car was $13,000, then add $5,000 for whatever it took to keep the thing running. $18,000 or $500 per month if you could get 0.0% financing for 36 months, plus gas, plates and insurance. If you paid $13,000 that is still $361 per month (w/o warranty or maintenance) for 36 months, plus gas, plates. . .etc.

    New, x-drive 3-series 2015 BMW's @36 months going for $299/mo. Includes mntce, doesn't include gas, plates and insurance. Full disclosure, before any negotiation, up front (cap cost reduction) cash = $3,000; this can be negotiated either in the discount off MSRP or other incentives that are offered from time-to-time.

    There is no free-lunch (well, there is a free-lunch tomorrow, according to the sign.) I crack myself up. B)

    I would think the new car would have a lower risk and very high expectation of having lower operating costs than a 2007 model with 100K+ miles on it.

    Of course, we really don't have enough information to call the two transactions high vs low risk, for perhaps the 2007 was acquired for $3,000 cash, not $13,000 -- the ire of the poster however would seem to suggest that an impossibly low selling price was not part of the picture of this transaction some 6 months ago.
  • Re: Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

    Sween, my S4 does similarly -- better than the 2.0T I had (2009).

    I read that the HP of the S4 will be bumped to about 360, probably in an effort to differentiate the S4's performance from the S3. At this point my plan is to CPO the thing at the end of the lease and keep it for at least another year -- hope this doesn't jinx anything: this car has been bullet proof in terms of reliability and service requirements.

    My only regret, no sport diff.
  • Re: Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

    On the s4 for summers I have continentals extream contacts- 19's 255/35 big boys - I can say it's night and day over the 18' winters and with the SD pushing it into a Turn is pure joy. 
    (whispering) Pure Joy. I can only imagine since I don't have the SD, but my wife and I took out an S5 w/SD recently -- it too had the 19" wheel/tire package -- and it gave new meaning to the phrase "corners like a snake in a rat hole."

    Since it would be financially crazy to do so, I will NOT be trading the current S4 for an S4 w/SD, but still, these DWS 06 UHP's have totally changed how fast I can enter a curve. It does carve like it's on rails!

    In case anyone needs or wants to know: Front inflation [cold], 42 lbs, Rear, 40 lbs. The reason to do this -- especially on Audis -- is that they are nose heavy and when readying for a sharp turn maneuver the load shifts to the front, so I give the fronts a bit more [air pressure] to work with, figuring they need it.
  • Re: Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

    The way I earn my living is by working with distributors of beverage alcohol products. For purposes of our discussions here, think of these distributors as your friendly local auto dealers.

    I have come to learn that the distributors and suppliers have a love hate relationship. I must assume there is some similarity with auto mfgs and their retailers. Since I have been dealing with German car dealerships for the most part since 1977, my observation does not support this assumption. My Audi dealer seems to have a very positive relationship with Audi of America. My beverage alcohol customers seem to have no love lost relationship with their suppliers, however.

    So, I do believe that my only matter of recourse, should I have an issue with my German car, is by dealing with my Audi dealer (at least first off). I have no issues with my dealership and we also had no issues with our three BMW's and the local BMW dealership. When something needed attending, the Audi and BMW dealership have always greased the skids, so to speak, to get the issue taken care of.

    My few dalliances with American cars have, on the other hand, almost always had issues that the dealer wanted to get argumentative with. The same was true with Acura, but not with Infiniti. If someone says they have had issues with a GM or Chrysler car that required "much" effort to achieve resolution, well that seems, to me, to be justification for not patronizing American car dealerships. I've had the same experiences way back when I was in college and was trying to become a life-long Chrysler products customer.

    My somewhat recent experience visiting a Chrysler/Jeep dealership in search of a new car, really did but one thing: I would, at this juncture, NEVER buy a Chrysler/Jeep product, as the experience made me feel the need for a shower -- and that was just going in for a test drive.

    My preference is to work with what I have come to call "horizontal" car dealerships. The salespeople at such dealerships seem hell bent on discussing everything BUT the cars they presumably sell. Talk about zero pressure, zero stress, the German car reps seem, on a scale of 1 to 10 to place selling a car as number 11 on their list of things they want to do. One being the #1 thing they want to do.

    Of course, the cynic in me assumes this could be part of a well studied act to make me believe they [the German dealership] really do care about what I want, rather than making a sale TODAY. In any case, I do respond to the negative pressure to buy. And, truth be told, I am not really all that concerned if this is all just contrived to manipulate me.

    The guy I buy cars from is on my "list": you know the one that has a doctor, dentist, barber, accountant, lawyer, vet and a few other key individuals on it that we all rely on to keep us safe, sane, legal and well.

    In my case, I happen to love German cars, Swiss watches, Italian shoes, and mostly Japanese electronics, and so on -- I have come to build relationships with folks who sell and support these products and services.

    Nothing is perfect -- and I assume every product has lemons -- and because of this, I believe in relationships. If you buy into the notion that the stuff we buy we buy because of the service and support afforded us as consumers by the retailers, you should be shopping for the purveyor with as much care as you shop for the product itself.

    My experiences -- after 33 Audis all from the same dealership -- have convinced me nothing else even comes close.

    If you have an experience that you will -- on purpose -- repeat, I would urge you to at least consider doing so.

    Most of the cars we discuss in this forum are more alike than not, if you find a great BMW or Cadillac dealership, I would urge you enjoy the benefits that you can glean via loyalty.

    Finally, I'll leave you with this: one in a row is not a trend.

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