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You can also get the LX-SE I-4 Accord (which is equipped nearly like the EX) for a lot less money than an EX, plus, no sunroof.
The moonroof on Accords do not leak, or have other problems (I've had them now for 15 years without one problem). When I bought my first Accord I also was worried about the moonroof leaking. I don't feel that way anymore, and I actually use it from time to time. On a day with mild temperatures, the moonroof can be nice.
I plan to buy an '08 Accord 4-cylinder EX-L auto if the new one is as great as I think it will be. If it isn't, I'll buy an '07, black with black leather. We also don't use the sliding roof, but I'll take a chance it won't leak. I don't think you can base any decisions about the '08 on anything you've seen yet. Honda is too secretive.
2 wishes:
1. A conventional dash.
2. 175+ hp on the 4 cyl engine (I'm not too encourage by the mileage on my 2007 SE V6).
Did you ever answer the questions I asked you about your SE-V6 on the mileage forum? I didn't know if you saw my response, and hoped you read it. Here is the link to my response.
Do a search & you will see many complaints about the VCM/bad engine mounts. There is a TSB but doesn't work.
The extra 1-2mpg savings is not worth the headache!
I would imagine that like the current Accord it will be available with a 6 cylinder or a 4 cylinder to accomodate customer preference for power versus cost (fuel and initial purchase price).
-Cj :P
TOO MUCH EXCITEMENT!! HEART CANT TAKE IT ALL IN!! :sick:
-Cj
Trust me, they aren't going to go with a RWD Accord. They have no reason to do so. If they do anything, they'll give it a SH-AWD option somewhere down the road, but not RWD. They don't have the platform to do it - I mean, their pickup truck is FWD based.
If Honda makes a RWD Accord, I'll eat my shifter.
Based on the problems you're citing with VCM Odysseys, I would hope so. That would at least give us a choice in the matter.
Thegraduate:
In your opinion, would you prefer the accord to use sh-awd or atts? I know 4WS(4 wheel steering) is WAYY out the question but will make the accord sportier. 4WS isn't needed for the accord. All three have been proven to make FWS cars great handlers! Hondas SH-AWD system is more expensive and with the accord already being FWD, snow traction won't be as big a problem without it.
ATTS(Active Torque Transfer System) OTOH made the last prelude a great handler and almost feel like a RWD car and still get decent MPG without the weigh of the Sh-awd system.
-Cj
Something has to differentiate the brands other than styling and features.
Regular AWD systems send power back and forth from front to rear only. SH-AWD also modulates power from wheel to wheel in order to improve cornering/handling.
For example, if you were taking a fast left-hand curve, the outside rear-wheel would be given much more power than the inside rear-wheel, because it would more accurately power you through the corner. Is it making any sense?
If you prefer, go to Acura's Website and scroll over the RL model. Then, under the "Learn" column, click on "Features and Options." From this page, you should see a paragraph about the RL on the left (with a picture on the right). Within the paragraph is a clickable link about Super-Handling AWD. Follow that link for more info.
I hope honda does release an AWD accord. That'll be one less commercial on tv al la fusion. But since they had ATTS and the Cr-v awd system is new, ATTS could save a few $$$ without a decrease in performance. Just wanted to throw ATTS into the equation.
-Cj
Watch this cool video!!
So much for the bad handling FWD cars right
I predict the 2008 accord to launch around my birthday. 9/30/07
-Cj
I previously looked at the Pontiac G6. Looks like a nice car. It's made in Canada. I think the Ford Fusion is made in Mexico. My Accord is made in Ohio. Honda even exports engines to Japan from that plant. I have no feelings of guilt over buying a "Japanese" car.
My other wish for the next Accord is Bluetooth accross the board.
I don't see that in the lower level LX.
That 9/30 launch is probably about right - just a bit later than usual due to the model change over.
I just want to know how much hp the Accord is going to have. I hate how Honda wont release model info until the produc is on sale. That is annoying. I cant imagine them giving the Accord more hp than the TL but the Camry and Altima already outpower the TL so HOnda is going to have to do something.
I would rather see continued improvement in real life fuel economy as well as the chase to achieve perfection in overall refinement. So far, and while Honda representatives keep talking about improving performance, they have emphasized on these two far more important aspects. A second generation VCM (variable cylinder management) is expected to show up as standard feature with the V6, and this time, it might involve an additional stage (instead of V6 reverting to I-3 and vice versa, now the engine may be capable of running as a V4 as well which might actually improve fuel economy since switching to V6 may be avoidable under several circumstances).
As for TL, that car would be due for redesign soon after the 2008 Accord is launched. I think 3.5/V6 will become standard with 280-300 HP.
I didn't know the Camry and Altima have over 286hp. The Accord, if I had to guess, will have the 3.2 liter engine with about 260 or so hp. The 3.5 liter will probably be TL's standard engine.
It doesn't do one thing the best, but it does them all VERY WELL.
And for years, it's 4-cylinder economy was best in class (26/34). The Altima just topped it with 26/35. Still, the Accord kept that ranking for nearly 5 years (while still being competitive with the class in acceleration), not bad.
Much of the article is about Soichiro Honda's stubbornness to use an air-cooled system but in the end when the car was finally showcased, an amusing situation came about:
Later that year, at the Tokyo Motor Show, the new car had Mr. Eiji Toyota, president of Toyota Motor Industries (now Toyota Motor Corp.), standing in front of the Honda exhibit for a full ten minutes. The story goes that he then called in his young engineers and dropped a bomb, shouting, "Honda's car produces 100 horsepower with a 1300-cc engine. Why can't we do the same thing?" This and other examples from the time evidence the high marks the H1300 received for its outstanding engineering.
He was comparing to Toyota's Corona MarkII which had a 1900 cc engine with about the same power. BTW, Honda ended up launching a sport version too, with 115 HP.
And if the current Accord would be around in 08 it probably would be even or ahead of the Altima. I think the new 08 EPA millage rules will affect Honda the least (least drop in millage numbers).
Why would it affect Honda less?
Thx
50% of the time I rev the engine between 2500-4000rpm. No really hard accelarations or braking. I don't quite trust the numbers given by the [non-permissible content removed]. :mad:
Still a smooth car but mileage is NOT as advertised. Sigh!
BTW, the numbers you don't trust are given by the EPA - not by the manufacturers. The EPA mpg test is run on a dyno under laboratory conditions. It has no real world component.
Starting in 2008, the EPA will change the test to reflect what real world results would be.
Besides driving style, time to idle (in my case, I rarely idle for more than 15 seconds) and distance/trip etc can play a huge role.
Here is a decent representation of people reporting mileage on 2006 Accord I-4/auto. Out of 18 cars, three have reported 20-21 mpg, but the rest are well within the EPA estimate.
Again, if you idle too much, or have excessive stop and go (doesn't matter if the distance is still 50% city), you will end up with lower mileage than if you didn't idle for long, and dealt with not too excessive stop/go.
I have never seen numbers below 24 MPG in my 1996 Accord (EPA estimates 23/31) and nothing below 27 MPG in my 2006 Accord (24/34). I commute 14 miles, with right at 7 miles of each (60-70 MPH highway/0-40-0-40MPH stop and go). Usually, I average right at the EPA estimate; 27 MPG in the 1996 and 29 MPG in the 2006.
I rarely crop up over 3,000 RPM in my driving.