Jetta TDI diesel vs Jetta gas

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Looking at 09 Jetta TDI as a second family car to take load of older Sienna. Like the idea of great mileage and understand it comes at a (price) premium but trying to figure what that premium is. Edmond's claims the stock TDI compares to a stock SEL model. Is this correct? If so the price differential seems to be close to $4000 . Can anyone give better comparative numbers or model styles?? I'm not so in love with the idea of (maybe) getting 50mpg that I will pay this kind of premium. At what (mileage) point do TDI owners expect to break even with their gas powered brethren? Anyone owning a Jetta TDI or earlier like to defend their cars value or the decision they made to pay what they paid for their Jetta??
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Here is a comparison of the different trim levels:
http://www.vw.com/jetta/completespecs/en/us/#/show_all
Besides the engine, I'd agree that the TDI does not seem to add much to the SE. I saw that you get a 6th gear in the manual, a trip computer, and steering wheel audio controls.
In automatic form the TDI gets DSG, while the SE has a conventional automatic.
Went back to the dealer for touch up paint and in the showroom there was a sportwagen for @ 23K, it was a TDI.
But if you are just asking the hypothetic question TDI vs 2.5L you can use figures like the invoice between like model Jetta's and fuel mileage of 29 vs 49 for older Jetta's.
Incidently RUG is about par with D2. So you need to project whether you think prices will go UP, DOWN, stay the same, diverge, converge, stay in proportion, etc.
died I thought that my creature comforts died to UNTRUE!
The VW Sportswagon Has.
Cruise Control
Intelligent Wipers
Fog lamps
Great sound system with Mp3 connector and 4 gb flash card a 6 cd player
the buick did not have all that
Comfy seats for a 6'ft 4" guy at 250 lbs
Head room
leg room
hip room
heated seats
lumbar support adjustable
Really great rear deck containment system you got to see it no mo rolling groceries.
60 mpg vs 13.9 mpg wow
when you roll down the front window wind blows on your face without a vent window how do they do it?
Seats five not six i guess we have to use the rear deck in a pinch more than likely
illegal now my brothers and I survived and we always rode back there in my dad's
wagon.
I am impressed
28,000.00 vs Audi 31,000 such a deal!
*) Center sun visor
*) Heated mirrors
*) German roadhandling mannors
*) Heated windshield squirters
*) Far superiour brakes
*) Smells like popcorn when you run BioDiesel - LOL
Most folks who have driven various vehicles (and have enough sense to CARE about the handling) would tell you that most Asian vehicles are booring to drive.
Likewise, most American-named vehicles have been suspended to be too soft to handle in any meaningful way.
BMW, VW and other German vehicles are for DRIVERS first and foremost. That is why some folks who are accustomed to the other cars would say the ride is a bit 'harsh' or 'bumpy'. (Good handling usually means stiffer suspension)
Example: My wife just traded in her VE Jetta with 160K miles on it. This car had been across the country several times (and to PEI twice). On the highway, the driver would barely have to move the steering-wheel to go in a straight line..... for miles at at time. The driver always felt connected to the road and one could sense the road-surface. Cornering felt as if the vehicle was on rails.
When she got her new car (Asian)... it felt as if the car 'wandered' all over the road and we had to continuously make steering-corrections. When cornering, the new car leans heavilly into the corners and feels as if the rear-end might break free at any time. We thought there was something wrong with the new car to the point we complained to the dealer. (It was "normal")
Now, a couple months later, we have become somewhat accustomed to this disconnected feeling when driving the Asian car but we really miss the "German roadhandling mannors" of the VW.