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2011 Hyundai Sonata



  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,174
    edited July 2010
    Beat ya to it! I always wonder how living in the midwest with the cold winters affects the battery and performance. I also wonder how you'd get rid of it if you kept it very long as who would want to buy a 5-6yr old one wondering if you're going to have to put a new battery$$$ in it shortly. Or if you kept it ten years are you going to have to pay someone to take off your hands?

    It did sound like this one pretty much drives and rides like the gas model though. I drive probably 50/50 and live in midwest so hybrids just don't excite me that much.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,174
    edited July 2010
    Sorry, hit post twice.
  • mccallrmccallr Posts: 19
    When you say the first channel, are you talking about the first preset #1? I already programmed that for a station. I'm not sure how to jump to satellite channels yet. I've been using the seek command and one of the round knobs to move from channel to channel. I'll have to keep turning the dial to see if a number appears. Thanks.
  • johnwhojohnwho Posts: 19
    I agree, kirstie h -

    The advice I would give is that when you read anything negative about any automobile on the Edmund forums, you should not take it at face value. Sure, no car is perfect and they will all have some negatives, but we must all take care when evaluating whether a statement is factual, an opinion, or a deliberate attempt to denigrate a particular make/model.

    If I was interested in buying an automobile and I came to this (or some other forum) for information on that automobile, I would not allow posted negatives to effect my interest. I might take note and look for certain items when I go to see and test drive the vehicle, of course. For example, earlier in this thread someone said the 2011 Sonata is "noisy", yet, as I mentioned, on a smooth road I find it to be very quiet. My advice then - go test drive one and decide for yourself. But don't cross the Sonata off of your list because some person who may never have actually been in a Sonata said it is noisy. (I'm not accusing the poster in the thread here of anything - I'm just using this as an example.)

    I put more stock in the "professional" reviews since they actually have driven not only the vehicle being reviewed but also many, if not all, of the other make/models in the same segment. I'm also careful how I view the professionals negative or "con" comments, too. Sometimes it is clearly opinion (like the often dislike of the Mazda3's "smiley face" front end), yet it has absolutely no bearing on whether it is really a good buy for the money. However, it may impact heavily on those who might consider the vehicle. A positive opinion doesn't hurt anything but a negative one may not only affect sales but also may cause a buyer to not check out a vehicle that they would really have found to be "perfect" for them.

    Just how I see it.
  • ral2167ral2167 ohioPosts: 723
    just use the knob and turn it till you get to channel 0 -- then copy down the code and the 800 number
  • denp3denp3 Posts: 99
    I also got the same deal. $4.99 a month plus tax, came out to around $35.00 for 6 months.
  • schdyschdy Posts: 233
    I'm sure it's the same. I haven't received the bill yet but $35 is probably correct. I forgot the taxes.
  • shot_mosshot_mos Posts: 24
    Touch-up paint MIGHT work, but it depends on how deep the scratch is. If you just use the touch-up paint, realize that you'll still see the divot if you get close enough.

    I like the bumper sticker idea myself. :)

    At a shop, paint match won't be a problem. They (shops) will either custom order the paint or may already have it available in their paint booths. This might be more costly than you realize; you'd have to pay to remove the bumper cover, sand down the divot, use bumper filler compound, smooth it down, paint the whole bumper and clear coat the whole bumper, and then put the bumper cover back on. Ballpark $300-500.

    Some shops might take shortcuts and leave the bumper cover on when they do the surface fill, but even with tape masking you might have overspray of paint. :(
  • shot_mosshot_mos Posts: 24
    There are several factors that go into determining an insurance rate. Part of it comes from your home address, your driving record, sometimes your credit score, but other parts of the calculation come from:
    - Collision/Comprehensive : how much do parts cost? How expensive would it be to replace your vehicle?
    - Liability : how much damage could your vehicle do to another vehicle?

    Traditionally, you'll see that liability costs increase as you get into larger, heavier vehicles.

    Not in underwriting but an insurance nerd.
  • jerrycupjerrycup Posts: 6
    I live in Dallas, and it's HOT. I notice that (in practically all cases) when I get in that car in the late afternoon heat, it takes fully 3 minutes for the air conditioning to start delivering cool air. I get air that has no hint of coolness, then after that 3 minutes, a fairly rapid cooldown. Seems to be the case in either normal or recirculate. The system is able to handle the plus 100 heat load after those few minutes with no lapses. Anyone else seeing this? A "feature"?
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Posts: 2,242
    I know our previous vehicle, '04 Yukon would do that. In the auto mode the fan would only run slowly for the first minute or two, then pick up. I was told that it had something to do with extreme heat in the a/c system, R134A, and stressing the compressor. I am no A/C guy, but we put 70K on that Yukon over 6 years, and it did it from day one and never had a failure. Three minutes after starting, and the thing would blow air 30d colder than amibient when comparing inlet air (outside) to outlet air at the dash vent.
  • targettuningtargettuning Posts: 1,371
    I believe the AC system has to purge the various air tubes and vent runs of 140+ degree heated air (heat soaked from sitting all day in a closed car) so yes you will get "hot" air before getting cold air. I think it is perfectly normal and makes sense if you think about it.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,174
    Sounds like more than just the normal "clearing out the hot air from the vent system". They mentioned it was a solid 3 minutes. I've never had an A/C system take that long before getting cool or cold air. Usually takes about 20-50 secs depending on hot it is out on the vehicles I've had. I remember test driving a previous Sonata on a hot August day and the A/C was one of the things that I noted I liked. It blew cold like crazy....very quickly. Three minutes would bother me a little bit too.
    Here in Savannah, GA. When it's over 100d with the heat index, it doesn't matter what kind a car you drive; you'd have to wait at least 2-3 minutes before the a/c blew out cold air if your vehicle sat in the sun unprotected all day. If it took that long at the beginning of the day, say around 8-9am, than I'd be concerned.

    On another note. I just visited the Hyundai Plant yesterday and really found it amazing how they make these cars out of metal thinner than a dime. In the 1 1/2 hour time my son and I were there, they made over 200 Sonatas and Santa Fes. 2 Sonatas for every 1 Santa Fe. And if I understood the guy correctly, every new Sonata will now have a better/upgraded horn. Not sure about the one's made since December though.
  • hmma007hmma007 Posts: 19
    1 car drops off the Final line every 54 seconds or so :P

    The average Team Member in General Assembly loses 10 pounds or more their first 3 months on the job.

    Too bad you couldn't come into the paint plant, did you get to see the Paint Shop Showroom on the tour? It's hard to believe there's over 4 miles of conveyor in our shop until you have to walk it trouble shooting an issue or cleaning ;)

    I'm glad you enjoyed the tour, we're proud of our plant. Come on back and visit soon!
  • alookmanalookman Posts: 141
    I also wonder why front passenger seat is very low? my wife is short and she can barely see outside. May need to get a cushion for her. Never had a problem with Accord, Altima, Camry and Fusion that we test drove.

    How long do they test drive a car before its shipped?
  • keyman2keyman2 Posts: 78
    A/C should not take along time,I have a 24 year old car it takes like the other post about 22-40 seconds,something is wrong with the 2011 Sonata if that's happening.I haven't bought mine yet because of health issues with my girlfrind but I hope all thses things i'm reading is just few to little.
  • cmunizcmuniz Posts: 604
    My wife also does not like how low the passenger's seat is. It is much lower than our Ford Fusion. However, we put a cushion on the seat and she seems to be much happier. Small price to pay for such a great car.
  • maringamaringa Posts: 36
    Sorry for being lazy to look this up, but does anyone have an idea when the turbo Sonatas will become available?
  • hmma007hmma007 Posts: 19
    We have a 2 1/2 mile test track that every car produced is driven on. I can't go into our exact test processes though, sorry. :blush: The car is tested as soon as the build is completed and it's not considered a "completed" car until it's passed all the static and track testing.

    It's a very complex testing process, usually takes about 9 months to be considered a trained Track driver. I worked as a Quality Control Test driver for 4 1/2 years before changing positions.
    October is when you should see the turbo model in showrooms.
    I did see the paint shop showroom. Pretty cool how they paint the cars.
  • pianotupianotu Posts: 10
    Hi, I'm about to hit the 3 month mark on my 2011 limited. Living in NYC I only have about 1300 miles. I'm about to schedule the first service maintenance. My questions are: 1) Does anyone know what service will be performed other than the oil change (and filter change relates to that), 2) how long did you (or your car) stay in the shop, and 3) do I have to pay for this service (assuming the oil change is free)?

    One of the reasons I ask is that I bought the car much farther than where I live and I rather get the service done at a nearer dealer, especially if all I will be getting for the first service is basically the oil change.

  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,907
    Why would the oil change be free (unless the dealer provides that perk)?

    Also, why are you changing the oil at 1300 miles? I suppose if all you do is very short trips, it would be a good idea, but the severe service interval is more than 1300 miles (what is it on the 2011 Sonata? 3000? 3750?). I don't drive my cars many miles so I go by miles vs. months. However, I don't go much beyond 6 months or so with dino oil--that's about 3000-3750 miles on my cars. I would go longer with synthetic, but none of my cars have it now.

    When I get oil changes done on my 2 Hyundais at the dealer, I make an appointment and wait for the car--it's usually less than 30 minutes.
  • johnwhojohnwho Posts: 19
    edited July 2010
    pianotu -

    If you have some sort of "Maintenance Package" with the dealer where you purchased the car - for example 1 year free maintenance - then it would make sense to take it back there. My dealer provided a free "1000 mile check-up", but the first actual service won't be until 3750 miles which includes an oil change.

    Otherwise, I would suggest you go by your nearby dealer and talk to a Service Rep there. He/she should be able to set you up with service through that dealer.

    Oh, if you haven't already, you can go to ( and register your vehicle. You may get some useful information there such as a downloadable (pdf) file of the User's Manual.
  • pianotupianotu Posts: 10
    Yes, it's a 2011. I know 1300miles is probably too early too do oil change, but on the back of the "Maintenance Log" it says either 3 months or 3750 miles, which ever comes first. That's why I was wondering if they perform other check-ups besides the oil change then it'll be worth taking it in. Thanks for your comment and I will probably do it a bit later until I get closer 4 or 5 months, because with the current rate I won't hit 3750 miles for another 5 months.
  • pianotupianotu Posts: 10
    Thanks johnwho. I think all I get is free first oil change. I did registered my car and I will probably go to a dealer that's closer to me.

    By the way, parking on the streets of NYC, I already have quite a few rare bumper scratches, mostly caused by other inconsiderate drivers trying to squeeze into tight parking spaces. Do any of you have experience with bumper paint job (it doesn't have to be a sonata)? I have a black Sonata, so it shouldn't be too hard as far as getting the right paint. I'm wondering about the price range and any other info people might have concerning this topic.

  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Posts: 2,242
    My local dealer has been doing the first oil change service for free on new vehicles. When asked, I was told that there were several reasons.
    1. Good customer relations. Lets the customer know the dealer is there after the sale.
    2. Give the service department the chance to take care of any issues that come up early on.
    3. Also give the dealer a chance to check the vehicle out just to make sure everything is tight, trim, and where it should be.

    True cost to the dealer is probably no more than $30-$40 for the effort, and is money well spent to both get the customer comfortable with bringing the car back for service as well as giving them that extra care that they will tell their friends about.

  • ethandouethandou Posts: 15
    I remember 3750mi/3mo is for "severe" condition or heavy usage.
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