2010 Hyundai Azera
I've seen discussions on here and elsewhere where people seem to think that Hyundai may discontinue the Azera. This is the only reason I haven't bought one yet (I'm expecting that if they are discontinued that the price will fall). Last night I visited (again) Hyundaiusa.com and noticed that the "build your own" feature works for all models except the Azera. Has anyone else had this experience?
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This should be interesting, I was browsing around and came across this new concept vehicle for Kia codenamed VG. If you don't see the Azera/Genesis lines in it...you're ether in denial or blind. Maybe this should be some indication of the direction of the future Azera as well.
By the way, the new Amanti has been widely showcased on other websites, including interior shots. I'm just not sure if it will come to America only as a Kia because of the Genesis sedan. Whaddaya know?
Kia will have it's own flag ship as Kia has been working to branch off from Hyundai in terms of design and styling. I think Kia's market will be the hip younger crowd.
of South Korea with Hyundai the Lexis class and Kia the Toyo competitor.
The Kia Optimia has the same dimensions as the Camry. I saw a new one the
other day in Maroon and it was a sharp looking car.
It would make sense to do that since both brands are already established. Hyundai could eliminate the Accent, Elantra, Tiburon & Tucson and start their stable with the Sonata.
Sonata, Azera, Genesis Sedan & Coupe, Veracruz, Entourage & Equus...a very good line-up to have for the premium line.
Having the two split as you advise would only work if the same dealer sold both brands and right now that is not going to happen. Hyundai will not allow their dealers to sell Kia's and vice versa.
To make it today, the dealer needs to sell a full range of cars. That is why Chrysler and GM are consolidating dealerships. Also, why many Toyota dealers own the Lexus next door, Audi owns the VW next door, etc.
I'm curious to see what differences the upcoming Kia VG will have in comparison to the Genesis.
If a car like Veracruaz, which sold in far far fewer numbers than Azera, could survive, I don't see why Azera wouldn't.
I don't want to start another food fight here, but Hyundai wants to be known as a carmaker with a full lineup. So, they can't drop out of the entry-level lux dept so fast. It would leave a big big gap between Sonata & Genesis.
However, 2010 might be the last year for the current body style. Shots of new 2011 Sonata look stunning & I am sure those design cues would follow into 2011 Azera.
Edscrz
If you're buying from a private seller, negotiate the price based on what you feel you'll have to spend to correct that issue.
BTW, I remember one member in another discussion who said "...there will be no more Azeras beginning in MY2010." I'm glad she was wrong.
There were a few predicting the demise of the Azera after the '09 model year. They were simply the ones that seem to think the Azera is one of the most dreadful cars on the road today.
Btw, I have also seen a 2010 Azera on dealer lots here in Houston.
I am a transportation engineer by trade & my whole livelihood depends on making trying to make roads safer. We look at accident reports quite frequently & I have become very conscious about the safety features & crash test ratings. Many accidents could have been prevented if even a lowly ABS had been present in cars.
It is easy to entice customers by adding superfluous things like better audio systems or leather. But adding things like Traction Control & ESC requires a lot of engineering effort. Hyundai did that & made them standard on Sonata. When a supposedly lowly upstart could do it, why those so called giants couldn't?
I will always have respect for Hyundai to upping the safety game for family sedans. I doubt Honda & Toyota would have upped their standard safety equipment on Camry & Accord if not for Hyundai.
It's not like the old days where you could order exactly what you wanted and get it in 6 weeks. Purchases now are searches and compromises. Auto websites all have the " Build Your Own " feature, but once you've build it, you can't find it. I "built" a Passat wagon last year, but the configuration could not be found in the entire country.
Craig
Jaymagic...I have been told the same thing about the upcoming Sonata, that it would actually be better than the current Azera. That being said, if the Azera were to come back in '11...it would have to be totally revamped and basically be a FWD version of the Genesis 3.8.
If it does come back for 2011, it will be based on the same platform the new Kia Cadenza will be built from.
http://www.autotropolis.com/auto-industry-news/kia-unveils-2011-kia-cadenza-seda- - n.html
http://www.automoblog.net/2009/10/20/kia-unveils-cadenza-luxury-sedan/
However, back tracking on my statement about the Azera not making it past 2010...I found this little blurb in Wikipedia on the Kia Opirus (Amanti)...
"The Kia VG concept (Kia KND-5, production model named Cadenza) was reported to be successor of Amanti, based on the platform for the next generation of Hyundai Azera."
So maybe that would mean that the upcoming Azera would be set apart from the Sonata by offering features like AWD, LED headlight surrounds, heated & cooled seats, extendable seat cushions and other features that the Cadenza will offer.