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Ford Focus Hatchback ZX3 - Part XIV



  • With the high temps and humidity here, A/C is still in use daily. We obviously have the "water on the passenger floor" problem mentioned in one or two Technical Service Bulletins... sigh. I'm going to have Ford deal with this when we go in for the 00S31 recall ("no parts available yet"). Has anyone here had this "water" problem fixed on their car? How long did it take, and what did the dealer list on the repair order? Did they mess up your interior by disassembling/reassembling things when fixing the problem? TIA.
  • zx3beastzx3beast Posts: 661
    picked-up the beast on saturday.rear wheel recall kmows nothing of front pillar re-
    inforcement recall.what else is new? i guess its one recall at a time.

    silver bullet - is that water leak coming from
    the a/c use?
    towcrazy2- there is a brochure available at the dealer with accessories for the focus, mud flaps,
    arm rest etc.i will mail you one if you like.
  • ...does appear to be coming from the evaporator core case during periods of A/C use. My guess is that Ford didn't provide an adequate drain for the condensation from the evap core - either that, or the drain line is mis-routed, kinked, or clogged. Guess I'll just refer them to the TSBs referenced on the NHTSA site and hope they can figure it out.
  • zgrrrlzgrrrl Posts: 147
    So yesterday around noon I get into my Z, try to start it...clutch all the way pushed in, turn the key and


    Except for the clicking noise when I turned the key and the lights on the dash flickering and flashing along with the clicking. Thought the battery wore down because I left my lights on. Nothing was left on...I try again a little later, nothing...

    I wait a few more hours and call road side assistance to see if they could give me a jump...( I was only guessing that was what was wrong)... I go outside to try one more time before they get there and it starts. Not as quickly as it usually does, but it fired up.


    This morning it was damp and foggy (not really cold) and it started, but it seemed weak.

    Anyone know what's going on?
  • vadpvadp Posts: 1,025
    This is a MTX 75 problem.
  • vadpvadp Posts: 1,025
    I suggest you research the subject before making statements about a very common problem(especially typed in caps).
    If it weren't a problem I wouldn't visit the "deeply loved" dealership 3 times in 2 months.
  • anonymousanonymous Posts: 314
    Is there any reason why regular rubber/plastic plain black aftermarket mud flaps can't be used?
    The ones ford sells have their logo on them and the flaps specially made for the focus are for the rear only and are realy tiny. They won't be very effective anyplace where the roads are really messy from sand, water, snow in the winter. I plan to bolt on regular plain black rubber flaps like I've been using on all my cars for years. You don't really notice them at all.
  • zgrrrlzgrrrl Posts: 147
    well anyway, I just thought it was odd that it started again which means it wasn't the battery and I have no idea what else it could have been...

    anyone? anyone? bueller? bueller?
  • vadpvadp Posts: 1,025
    Sorry to hear about your new problem.
    Let the dealer take care of it.
    They get all the necessary diagnostic tools.
  • zgrrrlzgrrrl Posts: 147
    Gee, ya think?

    BEFORE I take it in I was just wondering if there is something *I* am doing wrong..or if anyone has had a similar's one of the reason why people post here.
  • vadpvadp Posts: 1,025
    Thank you for clearing this up to me.
    Unfortunately it's not that easy to diagnose the not-starting engine.
    Please bring your irritation with the car to the dealer.
    Concerning doing something wrong. Well, unless you drive without oil or run out of juce I don't see what you could do wrong.
    Even the battery won't drain if you leave the lights on because the car has a drain protection system.(whatever they call it).
    Returning to your situation. It could be anything:
    from the manlfunctioning clutch pedal switch, ignition lock to the loose ground on the starter.
    Sorry, cars became too complicated knowdays.
  • zgrrrl - The problem you described "sounds" very much like a battery. The key is that other things, like lights, were going off. Only a lack of electrical power will do that. A bad key or clutch switch would prevent cranking, but wouldn't make lights go out.

    That's not to say it is the battery however. A poor connection in a critical area can look like a bad battery. Typical areas are the battery terminals and ground connections. This stuff is fairly common on old cars where corrosion has had time to work it's nasty deeds. On a car as new as all of ours, it would be more likely that some electrical connection is loose. That is some assembler forgot to tighten or crimp something properly. That type of problem will come and go.

    The good news is it should be easy to find and fix properly.
  • zx3beastzx3beast Posts: 661
    thanks for the heads-up.i will be checking for same. so far,so good.
    zgrrl- all of the above makes sense. vadp is right,todays mix of electronics + mechanical parts leaves way to much for diagnosing. i
    havent had that problem yet. however, i believe there is a sensor when inserting key and if it is obstructed, engine will appear dead. nothing
    happens, as if you have a dead battery. this has happened to me twice.
  • vadpvadp Posts: 1,025
    I always wondered how reliable that fancy sounding
    "securilock passive anti-theft system" thing is.
    So far you're the second person to report some problems. Never happened to me. Yet.
    The manual warns that large metallic objects can cause problems if they are too close to the key when starting the engine.
  • drebe73drebe73 Posts: 243
    Thanks for all the input about the wheel well felt. Your knowledge and wisdom is stagering.
  • Sorry for no earlier response, drebe. On my car, there is the small "mud flap" plastic piece in front of both left and right rear wheels, and the side skirt has a black screw visible when you look at the end of each skirt at the rear wheel. If that screw attaches both the skirt and secures the wheel arch felt, then it looks like both sides of my car are the same. I'd guess the body shop folks weren't paying attention when they reassembled you car - make them compare it to another car on the lot; they should see their screw up pretty easily. At any rate, they need to make it right.
  • zx3beastzx3beast Posts: 661
    it was a cold day in february,i had taken a rare lunch break. went to start car,nothing happens. i had other keys and a orange key fob
    (courtesy of dealer to identify what team i was assigned to) and by the way since discontinued. whenever i call dealer they ask me what team
    im on and i say orange.they tell me orange is no longer. so i tell them
    im on the recall team. this happened again once in the summer. it was probably due to the position the keys were in.
    also,i had the funky reading gauges once on a very cold day. they all went the opposite way than reset. it never has happened again. the key cylinder does stick quite often, not lately anyway.
  • rubiconrubicon Posts: 12
    Does anyone know of any books or guides for maintaining and repair your Focus (like a Chilton's manual)? If so, what's a good one and where is a good place to buy it?

    I've been looking for a Chilton's manual for the Focus but I don't think they make one.
  • zx3beastzx3beast Posts: 661
    i just got my car back saturday,what silver bullet posted is correct.
    you can see why he does most of his own work on his cars. he knows it will be done right the first time. my past experiences with body shops
    are unpleasant ones. they always miss some screws, moldings, trim,
    appliques,etc. really no excuse for body shop to miss this, just goes to
    poor inspection and follow-up of completed work.
  • Is it just me or does anyone else's driver's chair squeek some. I noticed it sounds as though its coming from the junction of the back and the seat. Will the dealership fix this or does it just call for some wd40 sprayed in the right spot? Also zzgirl, which dealership are you using for service. I bought mine at Packey Webb and they seem like nice people so far. My salesman called twice already just to see if the car was doing alright. Besides the slight squeek from the driver's chair everything is great. I'm taking my car on its first road trip to Carbondale for the halloween weekend, should be a great ride and a great weekend.
  • vadpvadp Posts: 1,025
    Doesn't affect the Focus.
    Just thought some of you might be interested in
    reading this article.
  • vadpvadp Posts: 1,025
    My seat doesn't do that.
    I read several reports on this problem.
    Including the European Focus.
    The fix usually included a trip to the dealership and parts replacement.
  • khtkht Posts: 13
    I have had my focus for 3 weeks and in that time I have religiously garaged it. For some reason I left it outside last night and to my surprise when I got in it this morning, it leaked. At the driver side A-Pillar, was a huge wet spot. Has anybody else had this problem on a 2001 Model? I think it is just weather stripping that isn't attached properly (i hope that's all it is)

    What was the cause of the leaking in the early 2000 models? Was it easy to fix? How long did it take? Does it make the car smell moldy afterwards?

    Without any hassels the dealship provided me with a rental car (no charge of course). The only problem is that it is an ugly little Mitsubishi Mirage DE with an auto that seems to prefer neutral to picking a gear (any gear) when accelerating. To think that this car is more expensive than my ZX3 (the way it is optioned auto/CD changer).
  • cobiecobie Posts: 108
    1. Called ford customer svc yesterday to find out exactly what kind of sunroof the focus has. Ford UK describes it as glass, tilt and slide. NO pics! Anyway, customer svc didn't know but said they'd call back in a few days after a bit of research. Anyone know the type of sunroof it has?

    2. Side air bags -- in the focus are they the type that blow upward to protect head as well as your side? TIA
  • This problem was huge about 6 or 7 weeks ago. They had to fly in all new computer parts for them from Japan. Talk about a big headache. It put a lot of people's lives at risk. The bags were just coming out for no reason. Thats why you have not seen like ANY new Windstars on the road yet. One thing people don't realize is that it is not always Ford at fault.....a lot of the time it is suppliers.
  • vadpvadp Posts: 1,025
    As a Ford customer I couldn't care less where the problem originated. FoMoCo decides what parts to outsource and to which suppliers.
    It's more concerned about keeping the Unions happy than creating good relationships with the supplyers. DC and GM are the same.
    If the things will continue in the same direction the '02 year model Focus will be even more plagued with the problems, than today's cars.
    After all it looks like any non big three originated cars are increasingly becoming a much better deal, including the Koreans.
  • pd01pd01 Posts: 25
    What's with this side airbag recall i've been hearing about. About them deploying for no reason, is there anything i will have to worry about. I'm considering a 01 ZX3. Are there any other things wrong with it? A/c Leaking, starting probs, and so on?
  • vadpvadp Posts: 1,025
    Never heard of.
    Please provide details or a link.
    Thank you.
  • Got wheel bearing nut fixed. In and out the door in under 20 minutes. Don't have any teams to ask for at that dealership. Forgot to ask about the oil weight thing.

    Oh, saw two ZX3's in Jamestown, NY area this morning. Getting to see them more often in Western New York State. Saw a ZX3 Koni version (dirt coloured) the other day. That one really took me by surprise.


  • miata23miata23 Posts: 26

    Perhaps the side airbag recall you "recall" is the one involving recent Cadillacs. I am not aware of any such recall for the Focus. I'm not aware of any recurring problems (so far) for the 2001 model year Focus. All the Focus recalls to date have concerned the 2000 model year.
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