Honda Odyssey GPS Navigation System
I saw alot of questions in the regular Odyssey
forum about navigational systems, and thought it
would be a good idea for those with NAV systems to
post setup, and other technical information.
Enjoy the ride !!
forum about navigational systems, and thought it
would be a good idea for those with NAV systems to
post setup, and other technical information.
Enjoy the ride !!
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It DOES estimate time until arrive when you have entered a destination, and it updates the information as you drive. This is done by calculated distance, and updated locations and speed estimate from gyroscopic sensor. However, the estimated arrival seems to assume you don't exceed 60 MPH (even if you have been going faster).
It does have a database that includes gas station locations (and Honda service, and much more) although it is certainly not complete.
If you're talking about the whole vehicle, well, check out its description under "new trucks" at the bottom of the page.
guitarzan
Community Leader/Vans Conference
Jefe5, sometimes it is easier to start with questions. Have you thought up any specific q's that could help spurn some response?
guitarzan
Community Leader/Vans Conference
The section on the NAV answers a number of general questions about the Navigation system, and you might want to read it.
There is also the potential for add-on updates -- I would be willing to pay for updates containing detailed information for places not included in the standard DVD. However, this is just a wish -- I haven't heard anything suggesting this from Honda or NaviTech.
i love it
Press on the time while at the shutdown screen.
A great tip! The clock is actually visible now.
Apologies in advance if my memory is bad ... I haven't tried deleting previous entries.
from 1st setup screen
press previous
then follow the instructions to delete any of the addresses on the list or all of them!
Thanks,
David.
Also in the other topic, someone had trouble setting up the pin for the use personal addresses list... the 1st time you try it, you have to enter done with no numbers i.e. there is no pin yet so don't try and enter one... (pp 52 in the nav book)
I too have tried to delete previous destinations. I think you just enter new ones and the old ones eventually go away because the system will hold just so many.
nav screen, maybe 3.5 x 5? but it is not lcd... at least it does not look it, or have the problems with looking at it from an angle... it is very bright and viewable from any angle, side to side or high or low.
Any guesses on when a NAV system will feature in the first criminal trial? "Where were you on the night of October 3rd?" "I was at home all night." dramatic pause "Not according to the NAV system in your CSS '02 Ody EX-NAV you weren't!" "Rats, I forgot about that."
Can you add a Cassette tape player in addition to the standard CD player(which comes with EX model), since Nav screen takes some space on the dash board?
David
2) As much as I also wish it, the system can't play DVD movies. Even if the operating system let it try, it doesn't have MPEG-2 decoding needed to play them. (No reason for a mapping system to have it, and it would add to cost.)
[It is also illegal to have video displayed in front seat of car in many states.]
3) Satellite updates -- nice idea, but would require an additional receiver, of a different type. The NAV is a GPS system which means it can receive position information only from GPS satellites. It is not a satellite receiver like a TV dish receiver, and GPS satellites do not transmit extra (map) data.
4) Use in criminal investigation, etc. While the system does track previous destinations, I doubt sincerely that it tracks location otherwise. And there is no indication that it records time or date.
5) Many posts ago some in the general Honda Odyssey list speculated on tracking location of a van because of GPS -- not possible as far as I know -- the GPS system receives only -- unlike a cell phone it does not send anything that can be tracked.
One thing to think of: a nav system is unique to the vehicle, not like a radio that broadcasts the same signal to thousands of receivers.
And yes Goverment planes have transmitters that can identify the location of the plane... but they had it long before gps... any pilot out there can explain it. As to our previous lcd thread... yes I agree it has to be lcd... and the thick glass theory explains alot... however it is still the best one I have seen!
For E911 purposes, Congress has mandated that the first phase (transmitting the one specific "cell" tower handling the call to E911 Emergency Response Providers along with the call itself) be in place by 2000 (I think). The second phase requires the triangulated location to be sent with the call by 2006 (I think). So, this problem is being addressed for cell phones, but it is an unwanted expense to the providers in capturing, processing and transmitting the information with the E911 calls.
However, I think dcrisler is also correct in that there is no "sent" signal from the Nav system as it is only a receiver (everything necessary is sent from the satellite(s)). In addition, even if the Nav system did send a signal, it would be a costly proposition to track and process each one; I really doubt that our government (who has built and maintains the satellites) has taken that on (Big Brother fears notwithstanding).
I work with databases all the time. While there is certainly a lot more information available and collectible on each of us than we may like, it tends to be information with Social Security Number as the key. Without that clear and unique key, it is nearly impossible to match up and collect the information together in any meaningful way. The volumes of data become so immense so quickly that the expense and the error rates are enormous; so I think it happens far less than our paranoia might indicate.
Having read the last couple of messages twice, I still am not sure I'm understanding what each poster is saying. However, I *THINK* that I agree with dcrisler and disagree with csade.
What I was trying to say in my last post (although obviously not clearly) was that cell phones can be located (in theory -- not every system has yet implemented E911) because they do transmit;
GPS receivers cannot be located because they do NOT transmit (unless some other transmitter is added to the device). The GPS system consists of satellites that transmit, and a receivers (like the one in the Odyssey) that receive signals from multiple satellite transmitters and compute location from that.
I also speculated (I really don't know) that no database of where you have been is kept in the system. It would take storage, which is limited in the Navigation system.
That last is from the assumption that anything beyond the entered destination points would result in a huge amount of data in short order -- even if the "granularity" of the way-points stored was big. Sorry, getting off again and I don't even plan on getting a Nav. Never mind.... ;-)
Yes, GPS systems don't transmit, and therefore can't be tracked. Yes, the Odyssey system doesn't keep track of its whereabouts. My hypothetical question was very generalized, and I was just musing on when (3 years from now or 30 years?) a NAV system in a car would figure in the first criminal case.
Also consider that if you get a constantly streamed updating map database (wouldn't it be cool if your NAV system knew where road work was going on and could route you around it?) you don't need to keep data on the whole country, only data that is within range of your car during the repeat cycle of the satellite. GPS receivers don't use a dish or other large reception device because the bandwidth the signal required is very small. Low bandwidth plus digital signal gets you a small receiver. *Someday* static databases will be yesterday's technology, how we get to dynamically updating databases is just fun to speculate on.
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I found a chinese restaurant that I never knew it existed so near my home thru nav system.
One minor problem/nuisance.................To my disappointment .. the touch screen is not finger mark/impression free as I had heard it earlier from a dealer. Is there a solution to that?
I am not missing the audio tape at all.
As far as the screen goes -- I've never found a touch screen that didn't pick up finger marks (after all there is oil naturally on fingers). I find that disposable pre-moistened eyeglass cleaning cloths -- such as "Sight Savers" from Baush & Lomb work fine -- and I can also clean my sunglasses or glasses from the same wipe. We get them at Price/Costco for about $7 for 100 of them.
Computer screen cleaners would probably work as well, but are generally more expensive.
Why pay $2,000 if you can get a portable GPS for less than $500???
You also need mag. glasses to look at that small screen. Would recommand the nav for old people with memory loss.
As far as your comment regarding memory loss... well that maybe true but at least there is a solution... but there usually is no solution for being short sighted...
Oh and as for touch screen smudging... we don't seem to have a problem... but dust does collect and we use the little cloth that was provided to clean the screen, with the vehicle.