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Volvo S40



  • Don't buy it!!!!!!!!! I bought a 2005 S40 four months ago, and since then I have had nothing but trouble. In the first 24 hours it dumped me in the middle of the highway. 1.5 months ago I got another problem with the key : I could not start the car again.
    Now I am complaining by local authorities, I want the car to be changed, but no one (the dealer, Volvo or Ford) will take responsability.
    Personally, I like the car, it is nice looking, good drive, but quality and service is very poor.
    Hope this helps for everyone to make an informed purchase and do not get surprised.
    By the way, the sunroof is automatic and slides and tilts as well.
  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    Wow! My experience with our 2004.5 S40 2.4i has been completely the opposite. We're coming up on 10 months with it, without a single problem to report.

    In comparison, we had numerous problems with our Lexus RX330, such as warped brake rotors, CD player, power mirrors, brake light switch, under-body rattle, rear power gate, etc. The level of service was good, but we never expected this lack of quality control from Lexus!

    But no problems with our S40. Our only service visit was the 7500-mile oil change service. I haven't had an opportunity yet to determine if the level of service is good or not!
  • creakid1creakid1 Posts: 2,032
    Is yours one of them?
  • nofeernofeer Posts: 381
    when my wifes a6 comes to lease end, she wants the s40 sooooo what problems do i need to be aware of??? she wants the t5 awd, leather. red with black leather interior.
    what packages do you suggest
    is scheduled maintenance included. she liked the audi it covered everything down to the winshield wiper blades. she looooovvvvved that car, doens't like the new a6 (they ruined it was her comment) so she looked at the a4 but liked the s40 better, sexier, cooler, distinctive is she wrong, should we look at something else. she wants awd.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    Who can say? It's a new car so we don't know reliability. It's got excellent safety scores, so if your wife likes it, why not? The AWD drives well. It'd definitely, 100% get the car with DSTC. I wouldn't get any new car without it.

    BTW, your family pictures are adorable!!

  • carbertcarbert Posts: 23
    Have you found that the S40 is available with DSTC? (Short of special order?)
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    I seem to remember seeing several at the dealer with it listed on the window sticker. Of course, i do live in chicago.
  • carbertcarbert Posts: 23
    How important would you say DSTC is in a warm climate? What would the advantages be for me?
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    It will help for emergency maneuvers in general, moreso in incliment weather.
  • shortlidshortlid Posts: 50
    What would you guys say now that you have had you S40's for awhile? I know the Ford Focus which the S40 is based off of, or is it Mazda 3?? Anyways the Ford Focus got BAD rating for reliability!!
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 8,862
    The S40, Mazda 3, and the EUROPEAN Focus share a common platform. Platform relates more to basic architecture, windshield rake, and equipment attachment points. It is not indicative of overall quality and reliability.

    Each vehicle has it's own handling dymanics, engines and transmissions, and overall styling. These vehicles are not badge engineering jobs.
  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    Sorry for the delayed response. No, mine was made in Japan. It had either a May or June 2003 build date.

    Even though I am having good luck with my 2004.5 S40, the RX330 has taught me to never again buy a new vehicle during its first model year. At some point I may back off from that rule -- but only for cars, not for SUVs. I can't think of any SUV that hasn't experienced significant quality glitches upon its introduction, at least during the past few years. Even the current gen 4Runner had some problems with its brand new design and its new V6 engine upon its 2003MY introduction.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    The base S40 has $1500 cash to dealer incentive for this month. I believe the S40 is selling well and our economy seems to be on the upswing. I am thinking maybe pricing is not going to get any better this year than it is right now. Anyone else have any thoughts on whether buying now is likely to get a better price than, say, this summer?
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    The price may get a little better this summer.
    The question is, is it worthwhile to put off the purchase to save maybe $500.00?
    If you have a trade your depreciation will probably be more than that.
    Also, interest rates are trending upward slightly.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    No trade and no loan.

    The reason I was asking is we would apparently need to order a car to get what we want. A dealer has told me he would sell one for $250 under invoice, less whatever incentives are in place when the car arrives.

    I was not previously aware that the incentives in place at the time of order would not apply (unless they are extended, of course).

    You are right about interest rates. Perhaps the higher rates may mean they have to keep incentives to maintain sales, since most finance their purchase.

    Assuming we were to order, with the terms I described, I think our best bet is to probably order as late as possible. This way we may catch the end of model year incentives, if any.

    This brings up another couple of questions. What is the latest date that an order for a 2005 can be placed? How long does it take to get delivery of an ordered car?
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Well, there will only be one more 2005 allocation, so by the middle of April your order will have to be in.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    Thanks. I think we will try to get an order in by the end of the month, if we decide on the S40.
  • divewreckdivewreck Posts: 50
    I'm compring the S-40i with the Mazda 6 & Honda Accord (manual trans). All have 2.4L engine (2.3-Accord), they all have similar weight,even less in S40, but why only 22/29 MPG? Am I missing something here?
  • calhoncalhon Posts: 87
    Surprisingly, the S40 is actually a little heavier than the Mazda 6 and the Accord by 95 lbs and 50 lbs, respectively, according to Consumer Reports' scale. Those were with auto transmissions.

    Overall fuel economy was essentially the same for all three with the Accord yielding 1 mpg more than the other two.
  • - It is 5 cyl with the most HP and the torque in a group.
    - and MPG 22/29-30 is very much like Mazda 23/28-31 and just 10-15% less than Honda 26/34. I would not really call it sub-par.
    Honda is famous to produce the most frugal engines.
  • slammieslammie Posts: 38
    I'm just curious...has anyone compared the new S40 to the BMW 3 series? Is this a fair comparison? Does the Volvo measure up? I recently test drove a loaded S40 AWD T5 and was very impressed, but the price was 35 large, which seems to me is very near the realm of the well regarded Beemer.
  • If you scroll this thread back 4-6 month, you will find a lot of comparisons between these two cars. The consensus was, if I remember - S40 might not be the BMW, but it does measure up.
  • I recently test drove the S40 T5 AWD and BMW 330 on the same day and thought the S40 held up very well, performance wise. When you consider that you can get a loaded S40 T5 AWD with manual trans. for around $30k with current incentives, I ended up going with the Volvo. When I tried negotiating with the BMW dealer, they would hardly move on price.
  • bonsbons Posts: 45
    A True Fact:

    Volvo cars are among the least expensive to insure.
    It's cost about twice as much to insure a Camry or Accord than to insure a Volvo. That's equivalent to a saving of about $1000 a year. I know this for a fact because I'm currenty insure an 05 S40 and my sister an 04 Accord, all coverages, driving record and other factors identical and same insurer, Accord costs twice as much

    I assume that the insurance industry have data and statistics showing Volvo cars and drivers are less prone to accident and serious injury than any other cars and drivers. Also factor in is that Volvo cars are almost impossible to steal.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 21,977
    well, all factors probably aren't the same ... are you both female? Same exact credit score? both single? both the same age?

    I think I have a better example, if I may, because I actually called my carrier and asked for insurance prices for several vehicles. An '05 Accord Coupe V6 manual fell under "category F," while an '05 S60R manual was "category G," making the volvo about 10% higher per year. Unfortunately, I didn't ask about a T5, because I think that's a bit of a closer comparison as far as the all-important "sportiness" factor is concerned. Which I think brings up another factor in the comparison with your sister: what model Accord and what model S40?

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 8,862
    And I'll add to that. My agent just priced out an S40, Legacy I, TSX, A4, and 9-3. They were all within $50 of each other annually - about $100 more max than my 98 Accord.
  • slammieslammie Posts: 38

    What incentives are you referring to? The loaded S40 AWD 6spd. that I'm looking at here in MN is 37k MSRP. How much can I possibly save on this car?
  • bonsbons Posts: 45
    We are both single and my sister is 5 yeears older, Sis has better credit, but our insurer do not use credit score for rate. If these factor in, she should get better rates. Mine 05 S40 2.4i, her 04 Accord LX Sedan. I pay about $750/year, she pays about $1480/year. So it has to be the vehicle that make the huge difference.
  • slammieslammie Posts: 38
    Can any S-40 owners comment on this fabric? It felt sort of cheap when I test drove, but we also have a 15 month old who will no doubt be hard on the back seat. Is this a better way to go than leather?
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