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Audi A8



  • ayyateayyate Posts: 53
    Almost nothing to report about my 2005 A8 with 33K miles. Minor problems only (trunk adjustment, upper suspension boots replaced once. My only suggestion is to have some sort of extended warranty to cover any catastrophic repair. This car, like all luxury models with some age, can strike your wallet hard. Transmission repairs, for example, are usually not repairs at all but complete replacements. Not that this car is especially prone to transmission problems, but you cannot take it to AAMCO.

    Good luck. I think you will love the car.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Thanks for the info. The previous gen A8 from what I heard had tranny problems at 80k miles. The newer gen ones 04+ have been better. I will go for a CPO w/extended warranty.

  • harboharbo Posts: 136
    Just came back from a 2,500 mile run into Colo on my 04 with 53,000. Runs beautifully, fast and good mileage. Safe quick passing in the Mountain area's. 24 to 28 mpg. Mostly in the 75/80 range. Some higher speeds (90+) and some Mt roads at 25. With 19" rims I find the vehicle is sensitive to tire type. Michelin PS2 and Perelli P Zero seem good (the summer tires). All season's may buzz slightly at higher speeds. Not noticable to most folks and only noticable to me on very smooth blacktop. I've run Michelins for 40 yrs. The Audi dealer is absolutely outstanding. Enjoy !
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    Is it true that you can get a CPO 05 A8 for about $35k? I heard about it at other forums but havent been able to confirm it.
  • Not only can you get a CPO 05 A8 for $35, but I've been finding them even less depending on mileage. Right now I am very close to buying an 05 A8L, CPO with 42K miles for $31K. Has premium, 19", cooled seats, amaretto on black. Not a bad deal (of course, 6 months from now I bet this same care is closer to $25K, but I've been waiting for what seems like forever for a 'new' car).
  • ayyateayyate Posts: 53
    As the proud owner of a 2005 A8 (standard wheel base) with only 32K miles and the very same options you listed, I am disappointed to learn what they are worth on the market. However, for you this sounds like a real buy and I would take the deal. I would also want an extended warranty for the peace of mind, knowing what repair costs can be on any large German car. A single major repair can cost twice the price of a warranty and make it easier to sell later.

    Best of luck.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    What does a CPO Audi give you? I was looking at an E500 4-matic CPO and MB gives you bumper to bumper warranty to 100k on all CPO cars.

  • Audi gives you a limited warranty for 2 yrs and up to 100k miles from original in-service date. Example: 2007 A8, 23k miles, originally sold 12/30/06, resold as CPO vehicle. New owner has full factory warranty until 12/30/10 or 50k miles. Whenever either milestone is reached (4 yrs/50k miles), the CPO warranty kicks in. Realistically, you have a limited warranty until 12/30/12 or 100k miles.

    MB has a similar limited warranty, but it's only 1 yr and up to 100k miles. Same E500 CPO, purchased in 12/06 would have its warranty expire in 12/11 or 100k miles.

    Interestingly, have owned the E500 and traded it in recently for my A8L. It was a very nice car, but the A8L is in a different league, as it should be.

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    "Different League" What do you mean, can you elaborate?

  • harboharbo Posts: 136
    ck auto week, my bible, for the A8 compared to the BMW 7 and MB 550.
    That's the different league. Harbo aka
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Oh so no real life info, just bench racing stuff? Give us the goods, I'm sure I'm not the only person reading here that is cross-shopping these 2 cars.

  • clemboclembo Posts: 253
    Just as the other guy stated I went from an E500 to an A8 and it was a signifcant upgrade. I will not say anything bad about the E500, I actually really liked it but it didn't really offer inspired driving. It was a very good car that did everything pretty well but left no feeling of passion.

    The A8 (mine was not an "L") did a few things very well. First I had the Sport option with the paddle shifters and air suspension. It made the car a lot of fun as you could use the shifters to play with the power band. The car also handled very well, not just in messy weather but overall it was really fun to drive. It also has the nicest interior of any car in its class. The quality of the materials and their finish as well as the design was great. I had the Amaretto interior which was stunning with a black exterior. The final thing is that you don't see an A8 coming and going all day, it is a unique car that rewards the owner throughout the entire experience. I'll continue to drive audi's after the A8 expeience.
  • ayyateayyate Posts: 53
    My last experience with an E500 was enough years ago that a valid comparison would not be possible. But, when I left the last E500 for an A8 (previous generation), the difference was dramatic in terms of driving fun and comfort. The E500 was almost trucklike compared to my previous A8. And my current A8 was another step up in performance and luxury.

    For anyone shopping for an A8, I say seriously consider the standard wheel base model. Unless you are operating a limo service, why have an unnecessary 5" in the back seat and 200+ pounds of dead weight to carry around. My back seat passengers think they are in great luxury without it. The performance difference is noticeable.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    THanks for the input guys. I'm still a year or so out so I'll keep my eyes posted for more impressions as time goes on.

    I really like the Audis, but have read/heard/seen the reliability be pretty poor on em :( That's really the only thing that would stop me from diving in.

  • raglawraglaw Posts: 3
    Has any Audi owner with new car warranty up 50,000 miles been sold extended Audi warranty for up to 100,000 miles, and was not told that the term of the extended warranty does not run from purchase of the extended warranty but from January of the year when you first got the car, eg 2002. The Audi brochure was deceptive and the dealer told me I had six years from July 2005 purchase but in fact expired 12/31/07. I paid almost $3,000 for extended warranty that lasted one year past my original five years and less than 20,000 miles after my original 50,000 miles.
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    for all infos. I actually prefer the 06 A8, since the big grille actually looks cool on it (unlike the A4's). but I was a bit shocked by the price difference, $44k for 06 vs $35k for 05.
    I'm thinking beige interior, but err... what's amaretto? I prefer dark blue exterior though, black 2nd.
    I'm aware of Audi's horrific reliability record, so do you recommend an extended warranty? I mean an 05 will have no original warranty left, logically.
    I'm about 3 months away from purchasing. Thanks
  • ayyateayyate Posts: 53
    Amaretto is Audi's saddle color, although slightly darker and richer looking than most saddles. I have it and love it, especially in combination with the wood (not too dark not too light) that comes with it. I am not sure it is available with the blue exterior, however.

    I would not characterize Audi's reliability record as horrific at all. Not as good as most cars from Japan, maybe, but what German car is. Porsche perhaps. In the last J.D. Power initial quality survey, Audi had come up to 10th (a tie) I believe, so they may be improving. The initial quality survey does not answer long term questions but may be an indication of better quality. I am still a proponent of extended warranties for any luxury car.
  • m4d_cow, I agree with you that the big grill on the 06 does look very nice on the A8 compared to the other Audi models. Just this past weekend I finally took delivery of my preowned 05 A8L after watching the market for them drop over the past 2 years. 04's can be had very cheap but I was unwilling to take a chance with a first model year car, along with the fact that I wanted the smart key system.

    All of the dealerships by me have the 06 for at least $10K more then the 05, often times with few options. I would recommend a late model 05 as those have the bluetooth system built in instead of the non functioning OnStar. I was able to get my black/black A8L, with Premium, Cold, 19"s, wood steering wheel with paddle shifters, ventilated seats, parktronics, self closing doors with 39K miles for $32.5K. Warranty still good for 11K miles or 9 months, then 2 years of CPO after that. I know that next year I could get an 06 at the same price but I was just too tired of waiting.

    Regarding the blue exterior, you can get both the dark blue as well as Northern Blue Pearl with the Amaretto interior, as I test drove several A8s in that configuration. I love the Amaretto but the deal I had for at a local dealership fell through so I went for the Black/Black. Best of luck.
  • acenjacenj Posts: 58

    I've seen some ebay cars (new) discounted 10-15K off sticker. There is obviously some factory to dealer $$$ out there. Edmunds doesn't have it listed, nor do any other sites, i'm assuming Audi is actually doing a good job of keeping this news private.

    Does anyone out there know what the actual incentive currently is?

  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    I'd love to know more too...

    I'm still about 3-5 months away from purchasing. Do you think the 06 prices will be lower by then?
  • I couldn’t agree more. The Amaretto is by far the most rich looking color of interior that Audi has. I have been looking to upgrade from my 2002 S8 into something newer like an ‘06 A8 or possibly a VW Phaeton. Has anyone driven a VW Phaeton?
  • It is built off of the A8, but since it is an all steel bodied car it is much heaver than the A8L. The Phaeton is a sort of lumbering car compared to the sportiness of the Audi. I have only had my 05 A8L for a little over two weeks now and I am really impressed with how it drives like a much smaller car. Only pulling into parking spaces does it seem any larger then my 98 GS400.

    I considered the Phaeton until I thought of all of the reliability issues with it (same with the A8, that's why I wouldn't consider a 2004 model, only 05.5 and newer) and the lack of parts/dealers who know anything about it, made me realize a few thousand dollar increase for a used A8 was worth the money.
  • After two weeks of absolute NIGHTMARES....our daughters car was first hit, then vandalized by a rival school this past weekend...I've had it! With college coming in less than a year, we can't do a new car right now....tuition rules!

    We got an email from very close friends this morning...their friends are moving out west and MUST get rid of one of their A8 they can't take them all...and they need it gone like yesterday...they just decided to get rid of it....

    1997 A8 3.7
    New Transmission
    Excellent condition....just painted, etc....

    No other, loaded, sunroof etc.

    They are giving it to us for 1500....just to get rid of it, and they know we could use the help.....teenage drivers are EXPENSIVE.

    What should we look for? What are common problems with the A8's....I haven't had one that was a I'm a bit lost here with this year/model. We are going to look at it tonight, with cash in hand...

    Any info would be much appreciated! I have looked at pricing etc, and they are GIVING it to us pretty much...but I don't want to run into...Oh, you should have looked at etc...

    Thanks all!
  • I am looking at buy a 1995 A8L. I have seen some reviews where the have a lot of electrical problems. What is your experience? Also I was told that this model does not have bluetooth; however, I see you comment on it. Does this year and model have bluetooth?
  • I have a 2002 A8L - quit running. Mechanic replaced fuel pump ($1485); it ran for 2 weeks. Quit again. Sounds as if it's out of gas, but it's not. Anyone have a similar problem - better yet - know a solution. Been in the garage for 2 weeks - mechanic can't figure it out. Slader00
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    I'm not familiar with this particular model, but you can try The site usually has a list of common found problems and parts costs.
  • This question is for any of the tech geeks out there. We purchased an '04 A8L prior to reading these blogs. :( I am trying to find out if there is an adapter for the phone system. This car has Onstar capability but we are not sure we want to activate it. I also need to get the maps on the navigation updated. Would really like to have a bluetooth adapter like what is being offered for the '02 BMW 7 series. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  • Just purchased a 2005 A8L for 23000,55K on the ODO.Love this car. After three tours of Iraq decided to treat myself and get something I would not nrmally be able to get.I am requesting any ownership pointers or guidance any one can give. I am learning really fast this aint the old chevy.HAHA...All service records are complete through 49000 miles.A 55K is due.And will be getting this done shortly.But if anyone has any do's and dont's they would be willing to share I would appreciate it.
  • ayyateayyate Posts: 53
    As the first owner of a 2005 A8, I have had very few unpleasant experiences. One pointer given to me was when my car had accumulated about 36K miles and suddenly started overheating. My dealer (a high volume LA dealer) said the A8 thermostat tends to fail at around 35 - 40K miles for some odd reason. So, if yours has not been replaced, you might want to consider it.

    One other point. Follow the manufacturer's recommendation on engine oil. If they insist on a certain brand and weight of synthetic oil, do it. It may cost more, but do it.

    I have had a few Audi's, including two A8's, an S8, and others. I think you will enjoy it.
  • OK thermostat and recomended oil. Will I be able to tell if it has been replaced through service records though?Going to dealer Saturday...will check it out.Audi says 0W30 ...will 5W30 work ok?The 0 is hard to find.Thanks for the response.
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