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Buying hybrid for suburban commuting is not.
And W8 Passat. It is 4 liter and AWD, what did you expect?
Krzys
OTOH, if you are recommending using the existing discussions that include any of the vehicles canaanman mentions for research, I wholeheartedly agree. It's just that we don't need to "untrack" any of the existing ones.
Was the mileage really that bad? I have been looking at a 2004 W8 with the sport package and I really like it for a larger car. I currently drive a WRX wagon and I need the extra space for a growing family (wife's due in a few weeks). You said you had a 330 which is another model I've considered. Was it's mileage much better?
Thanks,
Jason
At this point, everyone knows that the Accord and Camry will always be more reliable than the Passat, so I won't expand on that any further. As long as it is above average in reliability, it's good for me.
I went with the Passat because it had a lot of safety and creature comfort features you couldn't find in the Accord or Camry - like
* Power seats with Memory
* Directional bi-xenon headlamps
* MFD integrated NAV system
* Excellent Interior layout (personal preferrence)
* Excellent handling and acceleration
I wasn't able to check out the Accord's NAV (they didn't have one to test drive) and I am sure it is faster than the one on the Passat, but the MFG integration was well executed.
IMHO, it all boiled down to is this:
* Accords are great cars. More stylish than the Camry's and more fun to drive for those who want something more than just going from A to B. The Accord has tons of great features, and has a better bang for the buck because of it - but Honda's insistance on leaving out Power Memory seats really killed the deal for me (since we use our cars interchangeably in my family).
* The Camry's are a nice car - but really pedestrian. Nobody can argue their reliability, but their designs aren't going to excite anyone. Admittedly, the last time I test drove the Camry was when my wife was looking for a new car, and we were thoroughly under-impressed. The negative interior and drive irked us so much, that the Camry never made it into the short list.
I got the Passat because I am still young (ROFL on that 50+ driver for Camrys comment), and I will be willing to put up with a few more repairs for a car that will ellicit a huge grin on my face when I sit in it.
Just avoid the Nissan Altima - this was the first time I ever saw an automotive manufacturer using printed Wood Grain stickers for an interior. I guess Nissan's reputation for cheap interiors was very well earned.
* Power seats with Memory
* Directional bi-xenon headlamps
* MFD integrated NAV system
* Excellent Interior layout (personal preferrence)
* Excellent handling and acceleration
Well, I'd argue that the Accord V6 and Camry SE V6 handle quite well, as well as accelerate well. Also, a Passat with all of these features will cost equal to an Acura TL, not an Accord. I'm not knocking your preferences, but indeed a loaded Passat competes with entry-lux cars like TL and G35 based on price.
The v6 Passat pricing is indeed in the entry-lux segment - which is surprising on how wide the price range is for this car.
Since this was the Accord / Camry / Passat forum, I omitted the fact that also test drove the Acura TL. Didn't drive the G35 though - I was too put off after the Nissan Maxima test drive to even consider a Nissan Brand - I know, not very objective.
2008 VW Passat Komfort MSRP $29,000
Payment: $324mth, 36mth, 12k
Now this is with $0 DOWN!!! meaning that I could save my $2k I was going
to put down on a car.
BUT, I really have my heart set on the Accord, but compared to this deal, it seems
so expensive, to be at the same range, I would need to put down $2k, but that is the EX-L 4cyl navi, and one amazing car. I want to lease, not buy, but I am not sure
what I should do, after all it is only a lease. VW is a great company. The Passat
is one nice car as well, and probably has even more options. I thought if I
get the passat, have the for 3 years, and the Accord will have better deals then...
But I am not sure what to think or do, but the offer really has me thinking hard!
Please let me know what you guys think on what I should do.
Dealer told me that this is for this month only, and some how,
I believe him, because they keep extending the specials on VW.com
Let me know!
They are offering nearly $4500 in savings, my mother is a VW owner and I live in the same house, so I get the loyalty cash,, I am trading, so I will have lease loyalty, plus incentives, but I want your input if I am making a good choice, but I was really wanting the Accord.
08 Komfort passat , Cobalt Blue, Very rich creamy blue, Black leather, sunroof, power seats, 6disc cd changer, heated seats. Rear window blinds, push start, aux input, HID head lights. Also it has Tiptronic transmission with minus and plus controls on the steering wheel to control the 6spd transmission. 2.0T engine, 200hp. Larger rims.
Let me know, if I should just pull the trigger?
Good luck - let us know how it turns out!
It is looking more in the favor of the Passat, I am getting I am getting $3,700 worth of incentives. Plus I am getting the car at invoice. So when comparing both Accord and Passat leases together, it really makes sense financially, and this incentive on the Passat is amazing! I really don't think I should pass this up, considering the Accord will not ever have an incentive like this for a long time, and when they do, it is certainly not going to be this soon in its deput and I have little miles left on my current lease. So,honestly, as much as I love the new accord, there are other great cars out there, this lease deal is much better financially and realistically for a lease, with the least money involved, and that is what it is all about.
Thank You!
He sold me a top of line Passat Wagon for $0.75 over invoice
LESS the VW hold-back costs.
My older Passat Wagon has had 3 Turbo pumps replaced by
VW. Keep the oil change records....it is important.
:shades:
VW.
I'd have a hard time giving ANY money to a car brand who gave me that much trouble!
Thanks in advance for your inputs.
I am in the market for either a '08 Passat Komfort or '08 Accord EX-L w/ nav. Here are offers from dealers excl doc fee & tax:
* VW: $25,200
* Honda: $25,250
Passat rides great and the engine seems to effortlessly accelerate to 70 - 80mph on highway. Good brakes and comfortable interior design and space.
Accord rides pretty ok but engine revs higher at similar speed. It seems to require more effort to reach 70 - 80mph. Brakes are good and interior is roomy and simple. Nav is a good tool but its locale is somewhat odd and tough to see in sunlight.
What do you see as plus and minus for each car? I'm on the fence.
Based on my review of the passat- i
Classy exterior- I love it! the cobalt blue is amazing!
Roomy interior- a little odd, but nice.
Door panels are a little plain, and plasticky. Hard looking.
weird seats, seemed too big, for me.
Drove amazing-strong pull.
I really liked the car, it was fun! The is what VW wants!
Other than the average interior, it is a very nice car.
The Accord:
Nice exterior- more conservative.
Sweet, classy interior fit and finish
Strong engine-geared for more economy, but still sporty enough.
Alot of dash buttons, some like it, some don't
I love it!
You simply cannot go wrong with either, drive what makes you happy! Ask yourself which gives you that! Then pick it. The new Passat CC is very sharp too. though only seats 4. I try to sneak in a drive in my moms 08 Jetta, and love it, I get wowed by the engine pull, I actually squealed the tires...lol I wasnt even trying to do it either. I was like WOW! It does have 5cyl. If I got a VW I would get the Jetta Wolfsburg with the 2.0T FUN FUN!!
1) It's noisy on the highway - I drive mostly interstate between Pennsylvania and NYC. I-78 is rough, constantly being repaired, and it's hard to hear the fabulous tunes on satellite radio over the noise Accord lets in.
2) Honda makes you get leather seats if you want Sat Radio. I'm tired of leather - hot in the summer, and cold in the winter.
3) I've gotten used to a smooth V6 - does the VCM in the new Accord present potential maintenance problems? Sounds complicated.
Questions about Camry:
1) Is it as quiet as they say?
2) Would a 4 cylinder be enough? I'm no speed demon, and if I heard some groaning on those rare occasions I had to floor it after going thru a toll booth or entering the highway, well, I could deal with that. But does the 4 strain like some rental cars I've had?
3) Can you get satellite radio without leather?
The VCM has been used in the Odyssey van for years, Some say they can feel the car switch gears in the Accord. Its a matter of opinion if its a bad thing or not. I have never driven one, my co-worker has not said anything about it on his 08 V6 Accord.
The Accord is still somewhat noisy, but they Accord has always been a bit noisy.
It is not as serene as the Toyota. I am not sure if they are doing this on purpose or just forgot to consider sound dampening.
The 4cyl will be enough, Honda makes 1 of the best 4cyl engines out there. You had an Accord as a rental, I hope you didn't. I have an 08 4cyl GM car and its nothing like the 4cyl accord. I truly miss the Honda engine. Its no race car, but its more refined, more torque. Depending on what your used to, the 4cyl should be just fine for you.
I took my 06 Accord 4cyl to Florida carrying 5 people, luggage, it certainly did better in mileage, torque, overall refinement and power.
I took my 08 G6 4cyl, 5 people, luggage, to florida, and it did okay, but the transmission was quite glitchy, up and down all the time, lacked a bit in power when going through Tennessee, alabama. The torque wasn't really there. The mileage was worse, not by too much, but you can notice. I am sure the 4spd auto in the car plays a role in the mileage too. I preferred, I missed the refinement of the Accord on the trip.
I know we are here to compare the Accord, Camry, Passat, but wanted to give a comparison of what I felt from the accord versus another 4cyl. The Accord, Passat, Camry are probably going to have more power, refinement than my G6. They have better technology and are more up to date.
The Passat is going to have the most power in the 4cyl.
My advice, is get something you truly love from the beginning. You'll be much happier.
Good Luck!
I love VW, I also have an 08 Jetta and it is so much fun!
The VW CC interior is MUCH better than the regular passat's interior. But lacks a rear middle seat which is removed for overall appeal and concept. I need a middle seat occasionally.
Soon, I will be looking at the Accord, TSX and perhaps the new CC.
Honda really needs to add more fun to the Accord, because when compared to other cars now in its class, it is falling a bit behind. If Honda used the coupe concept for the sedan, then it would work out better. Look and appeal better.