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Toyota Corolla



  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    Probably is the sensor that is connected under the seat. You might check under there and make sure all of the electrical connections are secure and tight.
  • Is there any way to improve the headlights on a 2004 corolla and focus them to illuminate a little more distance? I have to use the high beams often!!
  • My '03 Corolla only gets about 28 mile/gallon
    and it is so far from my expectation.
    i drive half city and half freeway, and i am used to push the RPM around 2,000~3,000... mostly @ 3,000

    isn't it supposed to be around 32~38 at least?
    i am dispointed about the performance, or every car is like this?
    this is just my first car, thanks for any advising
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    28 MPG is not a bad figure. Consumer Reports seems to do a very good job of providing and overall expected fuel economy average, and theirs for the 03 Corolla auto was 29MPG, at the top of the class. EPA ratings don't always tell the whole story.

    However, you may increase you milage by adhering strictly to the servicing schedule of your vehicle, if you already arent. (I personally feel that 7500 miles in mixed driving is too far on one batch of oil, especially if you're crossing seasons within that mileage.) Also, did you purchase your vehicle new or used?

  • I would expect a little higher. Our 03 is driven half & half as well and the mileage is about 32-34. On the highway, it gets in the upper 30s. Its a 5-speed though. If yours is an auto, it will probably be less than that.

    If yours is brand new, it will get better as it gets broken in.
  • alpha01, jacknimble
    thanks so much for both of your opinion
    i bought a brand new one, and i had about 12,000 on it.
    it is Automatic.
     jacknimble ,what do you mean by"If yours is brand new, it will get better as it gets broken in."? isnt that old cars always have worse EPA than new ones?

    Some people saying that they buy Toyotas because they are so easy to maintain;only oil change is enough
    But if you go to thoes service stations they always tell you that you need some service other than just oil change, such as Flushing Engine(they told me good for every 10k miles), injection...ect.
    I dont know if they are necessary, but i really like my car in a good condition. are they really worth it? appreciate for sharing your opinion again
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    As a rule, dealerships make much more money servicing vehicles, as compared to actually selling them. If you adhere to your Toyota provided maintenance schedule, always having the procedures performed per specification, you will NEVER be in violation for any issues that may arise and be covered under warranty. You DO NOT need an engine flush every 10,000 miles. Perhaps some may want to do one after, say, 60,000, but definitely not sooner. The dealership service dept. will always be looking to rip off the unsuspecting customer. You seem to be geniunely interested in making your car last a long time. Following the manufacturer's recommended servicing will allow you to do this.

  • Service by the manual is the best way to go, unless you are driving your car particularly hard, but even then 10k between engine flushes is ridiculous. There is such a thing as over-maintaining a car.

    Gas mileage improves as the car engine and drivetrain breaks in, typically about 5000 miles. If you read long-term test results, such as Car and Driver or Edmunds, you will notice they measure these things when new, then measure them as they drive them. Mileage and even performance generally increases as the car gets some wear on it, then later in life, it begins dropping. Just like our bodies :)

    If yours has 12,000 on it now, it is likely getting the best mileage it will ever get with your driving style, environment, and type of driving.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    31-32 mpg in my Matrix auto, which has the corolla engine but is 250 pounds heavier with a higher profile. That is 75/25 highway/city, but the point is you can do it if you focus your driving habits on saving gas. If you gun it between stoplights and do 80 on the freeway, YMMV (brake pad longevity will vary too!)

    Dealerships and even the local tire shop/gas station make a LOT of money performing needless service on cars. Go by the book Toyota gave you and don't worry about it.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    ...for our '03 Sedan automatic was right around 28-29 mpg for an even mixture of suburban running around and longer trips. The extremes could indeed be extreme: 24-25 in straight shopping runs, 32-35 on longer trips with restrained speeds.

    And I also agree that Consumer Reports' overall mileage measurement is VERY VERY close to the real numbers we have achieved with our cars over the years. If they say a good overall average is 29 mpg, then plus or minus 1-2 mpg, that is what the vast majority of folks are probably seeing. Their test is extremely "real", much more so than the EPA test, and also reliably repeatable.
  • i think i had got ripped off many times! but thanks for your words... it will stop by now! ^^

    jacknimble, i guess i just treated my little "buddy" too nice, take too much care on it.thank you!

    nippononly, you got 31-32 mpg in your Matrix auto? wow... corolla is supposed to be more economy than Matrix! cant believe it!

    jrct9454,do you know if civic saves more fuel than corolla?
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    The current Civic is likely going to give marginally better fuel economy than the current Corolla. However, overall refinement, ride and interior differences favor the Toyota. Handling probably favors the Civic. As always, it depends on how you break all of these ties, and what combination of strengths and weaknesses is most acceptable to you.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    there are some people out there driving around in their corollas and getting 35 mpg week in and week out, if I can get 32 so regularly in the Matrix. To get that number, you have to drive conservatively a lot of the time, which I do whenever there is traffic anyway.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • dave594dave594 Posts: 218
    For the past two years, I regularly get about 36 mpg on my '02 Corolla with the 5 speed, and that's with a combination of local and highway travel in my daily commute.
  • I get about 36 mpg in mixed driving. I used to get 40 mpg with my old Cvic DX but it had 28 less hp and weighed about 400 pounds less. both are with a 5-speed
  • Is it realistic to get 18 miles per gallon on an automatic 1996 Corolla DX? It is rated at 27/33 mpg for city/highway, but my driving habits may be causing this low number. Many days I will only drive three miles to school, each way. By the way I'm half way there, the engine is finally warm. Are these cold starts and short drives ruining my mileage? Eighteen miles per gallon leaves a lot to be desired.
  • There is definitely a problem there. Are you gunning the engine, driving it like a manual, or is the auto just shot?

    I have a 95 DX with a manual and I have never got below 34 mpg. My car has 148,000 on it.
  • mcase2mcase2 Posts: 160
    I recently purchased a 2004 Sienna and Corolla from Watertown Toyota, in Watertown, MA. As unbelievable as it may sound the Sienna which is just about the biggest minivan out there gets far better mileage under the same conditions than my Corolla. The Corolla has almost 1500 miles on it and still gets only 16 mpg, and often emits a sulfur like smell. The dealership is already giving me the run around, recommending different gasolines etc. and other such nonsense. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    My first one? And I am serious.

    Find another dealer. One that cares about you and your problems.
  • I wouldn't say I gun it, except every once in a while if I need to really get fast start turning onto a main road. I can't really imagine why the mileage would be so bad. I do, however, really never have the AC/heat off very long. It's almost always on, and when it is, it's always the coldest or hottest setting (but the fan speed is never more than 2 notches). I've had the car for almost 2 years now and haven't really noticed it that much given my little driving, but this may be why I seemed to get such a great deal on it at the time. I has had no mechanical problems whatsoever.
  • There is another possibility. Getting a tune up and cleaning the injectors should put some efficiency under the hood.
  • collguyky7, something is wrong. Although the AC will impact mileage (maybe 1-2 Mmpg), heat and fan settings do not.

    I agree with tundradude, that perhaps it needs new plugs and clean injectors, but I wonder if there is something else. A good shop can point you in the most logical things to check first for your cars miles, wear and driving style.
  • Thanks, everyone! I'll get the car checked out.
  • Anyone know where the actual temperature gauge is? I'm guessing it's under the engine somewhere. It's always a few degrees low so I'm wondering if might need to be cleaned of some road grime that's accumulated on it. I have a 99 CE.
  • dave594dave594 Posts: 218
    Let me know where it is so I can have mine checked out too. My gauge has been reading a few degrees higher during the summer when the car sits out under the sun.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    #1. You simultaneously purchased a new Corolla AND Sienna? Impressive, and congrats!

    #2. Are you SURE you are getting 16MPG in the Corolla? How are you calculating fuel economy? Biggest thing- are your tires properly inflated to the recommended PSI on the doorjamb sticker and in the owners manual?

    Coolguy, be sure to check your tire pressure as well. Unfortunately, and I dont know if your situation is at all similar, but I felt I should tell you that I noticed a sharp drop in MPG with my 94 Civic two weeks before it stranded me on the highway, near overheating, which was caused by a failed head gasket (97,000 on the odo).

  • The sensor for the temperature gauge should be somewhat hidden up in the front bumper. Also, the manual should say that there is a +/- 1 degree of error on the display.

    By the way, it probably wouldn't hurt to go through a touchless car wash that has an under carriage spray and see if that helps.
  • jaa37jaa37 Posts: 67
    I can't decide between a Corolla S and a Civic EX. Any thoughts? The Civic seems to have slightly better ratings and resale value, but some people seem to like the Corolla more...
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,679
    I'm sure you will be asked to post this under the comparisons link at the top of the Sedans board, but until they do, IMHO the Corolla is quieter, smoother, larger interior, and more efficient. Corolla is easier to change oil, same or better reliability (based on older models). I think I remember that the Corolla is faster and more HP. But the Civic is also good in it's own right. Many people prefer the looks, more sportiness, etc. of the Civic. Try both.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    a whole lot of differences, but in terms of subtle contrasts, the Civic is more the driver's car, especially with the manual. Honda's powertrains have few equals. BUT the price you pay for that is more noise, a harsher ride, a less nice interior, and a lower ride height compared to the Toyota. Plus I think the stock stereo in the Corolla is better - get the mirror-post tweeters!

    Civic DOES have better resale, but a shorter warranty on the flip side.

    Corolla S has some funky looking side skirts and spoiler and stuff. I think the Civic now has standard alloys for '04 - certainly the coupe does.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

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